Open 728: Sharing is Caring (GAME OVER)

[BlackStar]

The post-claim wagon is useless, imo, since it heavily reflects who was present in the thread and not who was scum reading JJH.
No cred for being on a train driven entirely be counter-claiming-HWS.

I am more suspicious of the people that said 'I don't trust that claim' when JJH claimed JK

than the people that piled back on after HWS countered. Town players have no specific reason to distrust the claim, whereas scum already know it's BS and are expecting the counter.

Do you remember who said that?

[Mathdino]

The post-claim wagon is useless, imo, since it heavily reflects who was present in the thread and not who was scum reading JJH.
No cred for being on a train driven entirely be counter-claiming-HWS.

I am more suspicious of the people that said 'I don't trust that claim' when JJH claimed JK than the people that piled back on after HWS countered. Town players have no specific reason to distrust the claim, whereas scum already know it's BS and are expecting the counter.

Hey I did that

Preemptive defence: I did that after almost the entire thread had un-cc'd. And I didn't really think jjh was acting like a PR.
I've actually correctly disbelieved a LOT of scum fakeclaims. Ask the duck

Pin's kinda scummy to me except all the way back here there was this

Yeah too late ofrhz I already figured it out, still think there's no relation between a bad vote and me being scum but sure you do you

VOTE: jjh this is a better vote for you

When we were scum together he tried really hard to not actually bus me, even though it looked like he was willing to lynch me and this feels way different from that (especially if ofrhz isn't scum, I guess this doesn't apply if ofrhz flips red though)

Are you calling him a willing busser based on games other than 1859?

Good to know. Yeah, check his threads for Tit for Tat. He was scum with Aneninen and mutantdevle. Bus-happy team.
I'm guessing he'd be more willing to bus in a 3-person mini team than a 2-person newbie team.

[HeWhoSwims]

I'd rather have a partner for VCA. I'll do the VCA but I need people to do some of the searching work for me.

Announce your hypoinno please.

The purity of the ofrhz wagon heavily implies scum were defending ofrhz for towncred. (or that ofrhz is scum I guess?)
jjh did exactly that. Mentioned ofrhz twice in his whole ISO.
So I could use an ISO dive on ofrhz and a search for people defending him.

I'm mentally dead but I'll read along

What would you say the jailkeeper would ideally do?

I find voting for this d1 to be highly suspicious (ofrhz, davesaz)

Y tho

This wasn't meant as a crumb but it seems people picked it up as such

[Mathdino]

In this particular case, bullshit is where I am accusing you of being completely and verifiably inccorrect rather thanjust giving a bad answer.

You absolutely did make an effort to place me when I replaced in in noir. You are now attempting to write it off

No, jjh, i didn't make an effort to sort you in that game. I asked you which song would you like, you asked me if I was already townreading you and I said no, that I asked for it if I ever thought you were townie enough to be in my townbloc, but that you were in good track. That's all I said about you before you counterclaimed tracker. So not only your answer to me was innecesarily agressive, you also made me lose my time and go read another game to realize you were the one lying. Don't make me lose my time again with unjustified bullshit

This warrants an unvote, I'm open to people convincing me otherwise.

UNVOTE:

I don't like pintu's trajectory on jjh. Super fencesitty and halfassed. But 1120 was a solid post. And jjh aggressively accusing pintu of not even trying to sort him would be really weird if they were bussing.

I miss NSG.

WWNSGD

[Mathdino]

not sure.

eh, i guess there's not all that much left that i feel i have to say. i don't expect town to turn around and lynch one of my strong townreads if i die so i think we'll be fine.

NSG, heavily consider actually listing your strong townreads if you're gonna say something like this and expect to be sheeped

[davesaz]

What would you say the jailkeeper would ideally do?

I find voting for this d1 to be highly suspicious (ofrhz, davesaz)

Y tho

This wasn't meant as a crumb but it seems people picked it up as such

I read it as really weak fishing.

[davesaz]

JJH voted: BlackStar, pinturicchio, The Worst, Zoronos

Voting JJH: NSG, The Worst, ruru, BlackStar, HWS, ofrhz, Mathdino, pinturicchio

[the worst]

I've actually correctly disbelieved a LOT of scum fakeclaims. Ask the duck

+1
"lynch through obviously bullshit TPR claims" is a tactic I've adopted too

[Mathdino]

davesaz

ISO dave and jjh for each other.

[Mathdino]

...
VOTE: davesaz

m'bad

[the worst]

Dave=>jjh reads like distancing rather than reading

[the worst]

Hypo inno ofrhz btw

[the worst]

On Davesaz:
Either result is possible.

But no seriously he's probably town because he's got this air of semi-competent cluelessness going and IDK if he can replicate that as scum because I haven't seen him play scum but my natural assumption is that it's very difficult to fake this kind of authentic tendency to bark up the wrong tree. I'd anticipate that he might actually make sense as scum? Not 100% sure but unless someone with more of a grasp on his meta tells me otherwise, I will be assuming he is town.


Good people to ask about btw

Every mention of Dave jjh made in this post

this actually doesn't feel as partnery

[the worst]

oh. right, good vote.
VOTE: davesaz

[Zoronos]

The post-claim wagon is useless, imo, since it heavily reflects who was present in the thread and not who was scum reading JJH.
No cred for being on a train driven entirely be counter-claiming-HWS.

I am more suspicious of the people that said 'I don't trust that claim' when JJH claimed JK

than the people that piled back on after HWS countered. Town players have no specific reason to distrust the claim, whereas scum already know it's BS and are expecting the counter.

Do you remember who said that?

Of course I do:

lynch A50?

I still want jjh or hit

Oh fucking lol I misses the claim
I don't believe it because I'm pretty sure that's what scum would do
But I don't cc
VOTE: the worst

[davesaz]

BTW I did that list manually while listening to a meeting, so there's a chance I missed someone.

[Mathdino]

@TW: yeah i've never seen a member of eddie cane's clique fake a meta-townread on their scumpartner in order to shy people away from that lynch

[the worst]

@TW: yeah i've never seen a member of eddie cane's clique fake a meta-townread on their scumpartner in order to shy people away from that lynch

I don't know who's in Eddie canes clique but dat dripping irony

[Zoronos]

I'm suddenly suffering from meta overdose.
zzzz self meta meta-this-meta-that zzz.

[Mathdino]

jjh. jjh is.

that's a thing people do.

i no longer believe any meta-based reads from flipped scum.

Edit: IGNORE THE META

I'm not metaing anyone right now. The point is that jjh claimed dave was likely town by meta. This was bullshit.

[the worst]

I'm suddenly suffering from meta overdose.
zzzz self meta meta-this-meta-that zzz.

your meta suggests meta overdose makes you a serial killer

[HeWhoSwims]

I think that was me dinoman.

[ruru]

I meant nsg as IC, not tw

[Zoronos]

I'm suddenly suffering from meta overdose.
zzzz self meta meta-this-meta-that zzz.

your meta suggests meta overdose makes you a serial killer

It does? Sweet!
I've never been an SK before.
Pew pew I shoot davesaz for voting me yesterday pew pew.

[the worst]

Public day SK yes
I lol'd