Micro 808: Kids With Guns - ROLL CREDITS (FIN)


Forum rules
User avatar
123456789
123456789
Numbers
User avatar
User avatar
123456789
Numbers
Numbers
Posts: 808
Joined: May 25, 2016
Location: EST/EDT

Post Post #200 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:42 pm

Post by 123456789 »

Because not_mafia is always useless regardless of alignment, so I can't fault him for that.

On the other hand, while it is largely due to an incompatibility to mafia (the game), I feel that NotAJumble would feel less likely to get involved in the game as mafia because they are paranoid of being judged by what they do negatively; it's not the strongest argument, but I think it is one of the better reads.

Vulcan and Rampage are town for meta reasons (though limited in scope to 1 game...).

I'm gonna vig Firebringer tonight, so there is no need to lynch there.

BlackStar is at least engaged in the game.

I honestly don't know about Penguin, but they tend to be a bit on the lurky/"casual" side of mafia as well as both alignments (I think).
"You learn mathematics by doing mathematics."
User avatar
BlackStar
BlackStar
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
BlackStar
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 3122
Joined: November 8, 2015
Location: Impel Down

Post Post #201 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:43 pm

Post by BlackStar »

In post 190, Something_Smart wrote:That's good because it's an absolutely ridiculous line of reasoning.
So its normal to vote with people you scum read?
User avatar
123456789
123456789
Numbers
User avatar
User avatar
123456789
Numbers
Numbers
Posts: 808
Joined: May 25, 2016
Location: EST/EDT

Post Post #202 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:43 pm

Post by 123456789 »

In post 201, BlackStar wrote:
In post 190, Something_Smart wrote:That's good because it's an absolutely ridiculous line of reasoning.
So its normal to vote with people you scum read?
That's not at all what Smart said....
"You learn mathematics by doing mathematics."
User avatar
123456789
123456789
Numbers
User avatar
User avatar
123456789
Numbers
Numbers
Posts: 808
Joined: May 25, 2016
Location: EST/EDT

Post Post #203 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:43 pm

Post by 123456789 »

Wait, nvm, continue.
"You learn mathematics by doing mathematics."
User avatar
PenguinPower
PenguinPower
He/Him
.peng
User avatar
User avatar
PenguinPower
He/Him
.peng
.peng
Posts: 22435
Joined: June 15, 2016
Pronoun: He/Him

Post Post #204 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:44 pm

Post by PenguinPower »

In post 200, 123456789 wrote:I honestly don't know about Penguin, but they tend to be a bit on the lurky/"casual" side of mafia as well as both alignments (I think).
Not even close to true. Don't try to meta read me if you "think."

Only reason I'm not voting you is because I want you to prove your vig claim tonight.
<(") | (")>
User avatar
BlackStar
BlackStar
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
BlackStar
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 3122
Joined: November 8, 2015
Location: Impel Down

Post Post #205 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:45 pm

Post by BlackStar »

In post 192, 123456789 wrote:
In post 189, BlackStar wrote:
In post 188, Something_Smart wrote:An unvote...?
123 said earlier that he wouldn't mind lynching not_mafia. Yet he didn't care at all that not_mafia was voting for your slot and he joined the wagon. I don't see why he would do that unless he was actually partners with nm and was just do standing when he said he wouldn't mind lynching him. So if they're scum together, then that would make you town. I'm not 100% convinced on this whole thing though
I don't vote predominantly based on the wagon composition......


@S_S: Sure, NotAJumble isn't as scummy after the replace-out, but that doesn't mean I should just change my vote willy-nilly esp. considering that you are not in danger of being lynched......
I mean, its not like I can just take your word for it. It seems weird to me that someone wouldn't care at all that the wagon they're on was started by one of their scum reads
User avatar
Something_Smart
Something_Smart
He
Somewhat_Balanced
User avatar
User avatar
Something_Smart
He
Somewhat_Balanced
Somewhat_Balanced
Posts: 22616
Joined: November 17, 2015
Pronoun: He
Location: Rochester, New York

Post Post #206 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:46 pm

Post by Something_Smart »

In post 200, 123456789 wrote:On the other hand, while it is largely due to an incompatibility to mafia (the game), I feel that NotAJumble would feel less likely to get involved in the game as mafia because they are paranoid of being judged by what they do negatively; it's not the strongest argument, but I think it is one of the better reads.
What evidence do you have for that? Do you know of other newbies who rolled scum and replaced out because they couldn't handle it?
In post 201, BlackStar wrote:
In post 190, Something_Smart wrote:That's good because it's an absolutely ridiculous line of reasoning.
So its normal to vote with people you scum read?
It's not ABnormal. It's reasonable to care only about who you're voting rather than who else is voting there.
User avatar
123456789
123456789
Numbers
User avatar
User avatar
123456789
Numbers
Numbers
Posts: 808
Joined: May 25, 2016
Location: EST/EDT

Post Post #207 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:46 pm

Post by 123456789 »

It's not a meta read because I didn't ascribe alignment to you; it's just an impression read which is slightly different; it is a way of me saying that I think X is how you play the game (without actually knowing.)

Pedit: Scum could be bussing; it's not like scum
never
vote their scumbuddies, so I still don't see your point.

Pedit2: Newbies replace out all the time when the roll scum. Someone go find the Matrix6 stats page by Toomai; I'm pretty sure he documents that there.
"You learn mathematics by doing mathematics."
User avatar
PenguinPower
PenguinPower
He/Him
.peng
User avatar
User avatar
PenguinPower
He/Him
.peng
.peng
Posts: 22435
Joined: June 15, 2016
Pronoun: He/Him

Post Post #208 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:50 pm

Post by PenguinPower »

In post 207, 123456789 wrote:Pedit2: Newbies replace out all the time when the roll scum. Someone go find the Matrix6 stats page by Toomai; I'm pretty sure he documents that there.
46.8% as town; 56.3% as scum.

Do you find that to be statistically significant in this singular situation given the rationale provided?
<(") | (")>
User avatar
PenguinPower
PenguinPower
He/Him
.peng
User avatar
User avatar
PenguinPower
He/Him
.peng
.peng
Posts: 22435
Joined: June 15, 2016
Pronoun: He/Him

Post Post #209 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:51 pm

Post by PenguinPower »

In post 207, 123456789 wrote:It's not a meta read because I didn't ascribe alignment to you; it's just an impression read which is slightly different; it is a way of me saying that I think X is how you play the game (without actually knowing.)
Ok. Then we'll go with it's inaccurate, and I'm not sure why you brought it up.
<(") | (")>
User avatar
123456789
123456789
Numbers
User avatar
User avatar
123456789
Numbers
Numbers
Posts: 808
Joined: May 25, 2016
Location: EST/EDT

Post Post #210 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:53 pm

Post by 123456789 »

In post 208, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 207, 123456789 wrote:Pedit2: Newbies replace out all the time when the roll scum. Someone go find the Matrix6 stats page by Toomai; I'm pretty sure he documents that there.
46.8% as town; 56.3% as scum.

Do you find that to be statistically significant in this singular situation given the rationale provided?
No, it's not necessarily statistically significant, but statistical significance isn't always the important thing; 56.3% is still a good percentage over 50% especially when you consider the sample size.
"You learn mathematics by doing mathematics."
User avatar
Something_Smart
Something_Smart
He
Somewhat_Balanced
User avatar
User avatar
Something_Smart
He
Somewhat_Balanced
Somewhat_Balanced
Posts: 22616
Joined: November 17, 2015
Pronoun: He
Location: Rochester, New York

Post Post #211 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:56 pm

Post by Something_Smart »

What does it matter that it's over 50%?
User avatar
123456789
123456789
Numbers
User avatar
User avatar
123456789
Numbers
Numbers
Posts: 808
Joined: May 25, 2016
Location: EST/EDT

Post Post #212 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:57 pm

Post by 123456789 »

Null hypothesis: newbies are equally likely to replace out as either town or scum.
Alternative hypothesis: newbies are more likely to replace out as scum than as town.
"You learn mathematics by doing mathematics."
User avatar
PenguinPower
PenguinPower
He/Him
.peng
User avatar
User avatar
PenguinPower
He/Him
.peng
.peng
Posts: 22435
Joined: June 15, 2016
Pronoun: He/Him

Post Post #213 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:59 pm

Post by PenguinPower »

It's NAI here.
<(") | (")>
User avatar
123456789
123456789
Numbers
User avatar
User avatar
123456789
Numbers
Numbers
Posts: 808
Joined: May 25, 2016
Location: EST/EDT

Post Post #214 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:00 pm

Post by 123456789 »

No.
"You learn mathematics by doing mathematics."
User avatar
Not_Mafia
Not_Mafia
Smash Hit
User avatar
User avatar
Not_Mafia
Smash Hit
Smash Hit
Posts: 22714
Joined: February 5, 2014
Location: Whitney's Gym

Post Post #215 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:00 pm

Post by Not_Mafia »

It's a good tell un newbie since the scum replace out EV is 22.2%, it's just not relevant here
Also, what is Not_Mafia doing? This is some of the worst play I’ve ever seen.
I will SEARCH for games with you and N_M to help you policy him.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
User avatar
PenguinPower
PenguinPower
He/Him
.peng
User avatar
User avatar
PenguinPower
He/Him
.peng
.peng
Posts: 22435
Joined: June 15, 2016
Pronoun: He/Him

Post Post #216 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:01 pm

Post by PenguinPower »

Yes.

That was a fun exchange.
<(") | (")>
User avatar
123456789
123456789
Numbers
User avatar
User avatar
123456789
Numbers
Numbers
Posts: 808
Joined: May 25, 2016
Location: EST/EDT

Post Post #217 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:01 pm

Post by 123456789 »

VOTE: Not_Mafia
"You learn mathematics by doing mathematics."
User avatar
Firebringer
Firebringer
Trail Blazer
User avatar
User avatar
Firebringer
Trail Blazer
Trail Blazer
Posts: 43322
Joined: June 28, 2015
Location: woofbringer
Contact:

Post Post #218 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:02 pm

Post by Firebringer »

Scum replace out more than Town.
Especially noobs

We should probably lynch something smart
Show
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
User avatar
Firebringer
Firebringer
Trail Blazer
User avatar
User avatar
Firebringer
Trail Blazer
Trail Blazer
Posts: 43322
Joined: June 28, 2015
Location: woofbringer
Contact:

Post Post #219 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:02 pm

Post by Firebringer »

Also something smart is low key in his scum zone
Show
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
User avatar
123456789
123456789
Numbers
User avatar
User avatar
123456789
Numbers
Numbers
Posts: 808
Joined: May 25, 2016
Location: EST/EDT

Post Post #220 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:02 pm

Post by 123456789 »

I just got argued against on that point, so........

Pedit: Okay
VOTE: Something_Smart
"You learn mathematics by doing mathematics."
User avatar
PenguinPower
PenguinPower
He/Him
.peng
User avatar
User avatar
PenguinPower
He/Him
.peng
.peng
Posts: 22435
Joined: June 15, 2016
Pronoun: He/Him

Post Post #221 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:02 pm

Post by PenguinPower »

Good vote.

p-edit

Bad.

pp-edit

Explain.

ppp-edit

Bad vote.
<(") | (")>
User avatar
PenguinPower
PenguinPower
He/Him
.peng
User avatar
User avatar
PenguinPower
He/Him
.peng
.peng
Posts: 22435
Joined: June 15, 2016
Pronoun: He/Him

Post Post #222 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:04 pm

Post by PenguinPower »

In post 218, Firebringer wrote:Scum replace out more than Town.
Especially noobs

We should probably lynch something smart
~Half a newbs in Matrix6 replaced out; didn't really matter about alignment. Jumble gave a viable reason for replacing out.

Explain to me about S_S scum, because I haven't played with him as scum (i don't think).
<(") | (")>
User avatar
Firebringer
Firebringer
Trail Blazer
User avatar
User avatar
Firebringer
Trail Blazer
Trail Blazer
Posts: 43322
Joined: June 28, 2015
Location: woofbringer
Contact:

Post Post #223 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:05 pm

Post by Firebringer »

In post 222, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 218, Firebringer wrote:Scum replace out more than Town.
Especially noobs

We should probably lynch something smart
~Half a newbs in Matrix6 replaced out; didn't really matter about alignment. Jumble gave a viable reason for replacing out.

Explain to me about S_S scum, because I haven't played with him as scum (i don't think).
I can’t explain his scum play it’s mostly just a feeling I get.
I will probably have more words later if we continue this game day.
Show
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
User avatar
Firebringer
Firebringer
Trail Blazer
User avatar
User avatar
Firebringer
Trail Blazer
Trail Blazer
Posts: 43322
Joined: June 28, 2015
Location: woofbringer
Contact:

Post Post #224 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:06 pm

Post by Firebringer »

In post 222, PenguinPower wrote:~Half a newbs in Matrix6 replaced out; didn't really matter about alignment.
Also I’m taking about newbs outside of newbie queue
I don’t play newbies cause they are trash but when it’s not in newbie queue the boobs replace out scum at high rate


Nice typo :^)
- Kor
Last edited by Korina on Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Show
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
Locked