Mini Normal 2015 - Lab Rat Mafia - Finished

[Creature]

Cool, UnrealSeal is also scum.

[Creature]

Espeonage (5) - Tommy Egan, Creature, joral, Performer, Ircher

Espeonage is town.

The wagon's been town going silly.

joral most likely scum on that wagon.

Ircher idk lol

[Creature]

Hopkirk can be town too I guess

[Creature]

Don't worry, I can carry you on my back.

[Ircher]

Remind me, why Joral?

[Psyche]

JarJarDrinks replaces Espeonage

[Creature]

Golden Robster's town

Kublai Khan idk, but leaning town

[Creature]

Remind me, why Joral?

It feels like he's doing just what we ask him.

[Ircher]

And Espe is town rather than null because....?

[Hopkirk]

@Tommy and Seal, thoughts on each other?

[Hopkirk]

Tommy/Byron/joral/NM/seal is who I'm looking through at the moment.

[Hopkirk]

Maybe performer top.

Stalled games like this are usually the mafia's fault based on what I've remember of similar gamestates. Anyone else feel the same, or just think I've got outliers.

[Hopkirk]

Too.

Seal's interactions with rest of nasty-pool aren't very good

[Hopkirk]

Byron where are you at with espy?

[ByronVilla]

I've got my eyes on both Joral & Not_Mafia right now, they've both done virtually nothing in the game so far, and if the game is being stalled by mafia then it's likely being done by at least one of these two.

Creature I still feel iffy on, but I agree on the direction he's taking the discussion and so I'm going to join him on Joral for now.

Joral & Not_Mafia, if you want to stay in this game you need to be proactive and actually be contributing to some discussions. If you continue to sit back and let others drag the game through the mud you're going to be of no use to us, and so it's very likely you'll both be axed off very soon. Seal should probably do this a bit more too, but he's not at the shockingly low level of activity that both Joral and Not_Mafia have shown.

UNVOTE: Creature
VOTE: Joral

New post: Espy is a spot that falls in with Joral/Not_Mafia, however they were still actually communicating with other members of the town (albeit in a kind of anti-town way with the whole not reading thing), which makes me get much more of that frustrated town vibe from them. I also want to give JJD the benefit of the doubt as a replacement and see what he can do with the slot before I make any more judgements.

[UnrealSeal]

@Tommy and Seal, thoughts on each other?

Eh, Tommy's most likely town, can't see any scum motivations for attacking me specifically, especially with the Espe wagon getting so big

[Ircher]

Let's see... Not_Mafia always did nearly nothing, so I will go with VOTE: Joral because I'm not against the wagon, and it seems the best direction to be going in atm.

[Golden Robster]

Inactivity/doing nothing isn't alignment indicative; it just means that you're not doing anything and being useless.

Byron, your first statement in #264 feels really, really forced.

I understand N_M but why Joral? He was one of the first to out a reads list and is actively contributing. Espe has been useless all game so I don't get why you think he's better than Joral in terms of communicating.

[Golden Robster]

VOTE: Byron

[Golden Robster]

You should be afraid.

It's L-5.

[Psyche]

Vote Count

joral (4) - UnrealSeal, Creature, ByronVilla, Ircher
ByronVilla (3) - Kublai Khan, Hopkirk, Golden Robster
Espeonage (3) - Tommy Egan, joral, Performer
PenguinPower (1) - JarJarDrinks
Kublai Khan (1) - PenguinPower
UnrealSeal (0) -
Golden Robster (0) -
Creature (0) -
Tommy Egan (0) -
Not_Mafia (0) -
Performer (0) -
Ircher (0) -
Hopkirk (0) -
Not Voting (1) - Not_Mafia

With 13 players alive, it will take 7 to lynch.

The deadline is June 15, 2018, at 3:00 PM EDT (UTC-4), which is in (expired on 2018-06-15 15:00:00).

Lemme know if you see a problem...

[ByronVilla]

Inactivity/doing nothing isn't alignment indicative; it just means that you're not doing anything and being useless.

Byron, your first statement in #264 feels really, really forced.

I understand N_M but why Joral? He was one of the first to out a reads list and is actively contributing. Espe has been useless all game so I don't get why you think he's better than Joral in terms of communicating.

Whilst being inactive isn't AI, I feel that 'not doing anything and being useless' is anti-town (not necessarily scum), and quite frankly on D1 I'd prefer to lynch someone who was not doing anything and being useless than someone who was being active but was being rather scummy, as it means the game can keep chugging along at a nice pace. If we let people like Joral, Not_Mafia, etc. stay in the game for a super long amount of time, the game could draw to a complete halt where discussion has to be forced onto the town rather than having it naturally flow, and I would rather avoid that outcome.

Joral hasn't done anything for the past 4 days, that's hardly communicating. Sure beforehand he was making some good posts but it feels like he's just dodged the last 4 days and that doesn't sit well with me. The thing is the way Espeonage has acted has made me read his slot as town, as I'm getting that frustrated town read on him due to the nature of his posts. However I feel Joral, whilst doing more stuff than Espeonage, still isn't doing a lot and he still feels really defensive as a player.

[UnrealSeal]

So first of all, shouldn't Joral be replaced or at least prodded? I thought prod timer was 48 hours with a 24 hour grace period. Dude hasn't posted since Monday.

Secondly, I looked through Joral's ISO again and while I can agree with Byron's analysis that he was acting very defensively before he suddenly went radio silent, I have no idea where Creature's claim of "It feels like he's just doing what we ask" comes from, so I'd like to ask Creature if he can point to stuff indicative of this.

[Psyche]

prod executed for joral

[JarJarDrinks]

what up people? Will catchup today. Anything I specifically should pay attention to ?