Mini Normal 2015 - Lab Rat Mafia - Finished

[ByronVilla]

The thing is the way Espeonage has acted has made me read his slot as town, as I'm getting that frustrated town read on him due to the nature of his posts.

What posts of my predecessor read as frustrated town to you?

Their whole attitude towards the game. I don't think I've ever seen a scum member flat out just reject to read the thread before. No scum in their right mind would do that, that's asking for a lynch. I've noticed that scum aren't really ones to get super angry, and a lot of the time it's the townspeople who can get very passionate, as faking emotion can be a really hard thing to pull off, especially over text. Their posts just felt genuine to me, even though that's very much a gut read it never feels quite right to attack someone who's already demotivated, as the likelihood is they'll lose more motivation and flat out refuse to play the game (see them getting replaced out).

[ByronVilla]

To clarify, there isn't like 1 or 2 posts that make me think this, it's their whole ISO

[JarJarDrinks]

That was an awful lot of words that had very little to do w what I asked.

[Ircher]

Scumreads - UnrealSeal, jorals, Tommy E, Byrons

Remind me, why is Tommy scum?

[JarJarDrinks]

@Byron

Are you saying that "super angry", "passionate", "faking emotion" describes espe's play this game?

[ByronVilla]

Angry and passionate yes, but in the wrong direction. Instead of being passionate about finding scum, they seemed to be passionate about mocking the town and expressing their distaste for the game. They made various sarcastic comments and were clearly bitter at the town jumping on them (see posts like #231 and #167 as examples of this). Faking emotion, no I don't think they were faking it, their replace out being proof that they really did not like this game and wanted out.

[JarJarDrinks]

Scumreads - UnrealSeal, jorals, Tommy E, Byrons

Remind me, why is Tommy scum?

I scumread him for 94. I dont think it was natural for him to ping town on KK @ that point.

Also just re-ISOd him and nothing looks particularly town there.

[Creature]

Hopefully I'm not too late...

[Tommy Egan]

Can we just like... choose a lynch and be done with the day?

Explain this post please? Why the rush?

@Tommy and Seal, thoughts on each other?

Is this a serious question? I've already made my thoughts clear enough.

Even though I like PP, I feel like robsters questioning of him is good. KK still looking bad

Tommy E terrible post 94. How the F is KK pinging town to u?

blech @ Creature vomiting shitty 1 line posts all over page 5

So this is what your whole scum read is based from? I even explained the slight town lean on the slot.

[JarJarDrinks]

Even though I like PP, I feel like robsters questioning of him is good. KK still looking bad

Tommy E terrible post 94. How the F is KK pinging town to u?

blech @ Creature vomiting shitty 1 line posts all over page 5

So this is what your whole scum read is based from?

Well sure. It's 13 pages on day one and you've made like 10 posts. Reads are obviously gonna still be kinda shallow @ this phase.

I even explained the slight town lean on the slot.

Where?

[Creature]

would thank if someone guessed who Tommy Egan is.

[Creature]

So far I know he played with me (probably when I was town) and heard about my meta.

[Performer]

@golden & tom: my L-1 on esp, was for reaction testing.
@hop my vote on creature at the time, was because I had a tr on pp. I thought how could he see pp's proactive move, as doing absolutely nothing? No way. That's a flagrant misrepresentation. Then I voted creature.
@tom yes I played with nm before


Still doing catchup through the day.

[Performer]

Pg 10 interaction with creature and ircher, makes me think creature is town. I'd react the same way to ircher asking to end the day so fast at that point.

Not sure how byr interpreted me "blanking" on a question on pg10. Could NAI though.

The esp leaving on pg 10, I see that as NAI.

[Performer]

Just read pg11, and I'm at golden, pp ,creature for town right now.
Need to read some ISOs later and still haven't gotten to 12-13 yet.

Welcome, jar!

[Performer]

Yeah I'm not liking nm due to his ISO of 3 posts . But from our experience together , he should be a little easier to sort later on.

Also, why has joral been an sr for folks?? Nothing stands out from his ISO when I looked at it. He's looking like he was trying to figure things out.

I'm not the most active on d1 but man, these 2 slots. I'm thinking joral will end up being replaced but where I'm at, I'm liking that slot as tr. As for nm, nothing personal but I find his playstyle scummy. Probably does it for being hard to read in either alignment, but as I said, he should be easier to read later in the game unless he gets killed or lynched.

[Performer]

Adding jar and hop to tr based on pg 12 interactions.

UNVOTE:

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Filler just toward jarjar:

"I took a year or 2 break but I recall playing in a few games with performer way back and always scumread him when he was town. His playstyle just comes off as scummy."
This is probably the funniest FM quote about me I've seen , ever.
Going to use that as part of my signature.

@jar
I recall when I was a 1-shot neighborizer and you and angrypidgeon were scum. You did good that game.

[JarJarDrinks]

Also, why has joral been an sr for folks?? Nothing stands out from his ISO when I looked at it. He's looking like he was trying to figure things out.

Here's what I got:

page 7: jorals vote on Espe (who is conf-town for me) is crappy. Jumping on him for snarkly giving a self-town read.

[Performer]

But the rest of joral's ISO, I found he mentioned why he voted esp...which looked like a reasonable town process.

[Psyche]

Vote Count

joral (4) - UnrealSeal, Creature, ByronVilla, Ircher
ByronVilla (4) - Kublai Khan, Hopkirk, Golden Robster, JarJarDrinks
JarJarDrinks (2) - Tommy Egan, joral
Kublai Khan (1) - PenguinPower
Not_Mafia (0) -
PenguinPower (0) -
UnrealSeal (0) -
Golden Robster (0) -
Creature (0) -
Tommy Egan (0) -
Performer (0) -
Ircher (0) -
Hopkirk (0) -
Not Voting (1) - Not_Mafia, Performer

With 13 players alive, it will take 7 to lynch.

The deadline is June 15, 2018, at 3:00 PM EDT (UTC-4), which is in (expired on 2018-06-15 15:00:00).

lemme know if you see any mistakes; my votecounter is still in development

[JarJarDrinks]

But the rest of joral's ISO, I found he mentioned why he voted esp...which looked like a reasonable town process.

Meh, he voted him for a snarky comment.

[Performer]

@jar joral's 166 about esp though. Damn, I have a tr on joral though. Would help for sorting more, if someone replaced in for that slot.

Need to reread byr ISO as people have been seeing something that I may have missed.

[Performer]

Ok, did an ISO on byr . The interaction between him and jar don't give me any red flags.

But I rethought the "literally blanking" accusation from byr - which is really reaching.

VOTE: byronvilla

Pp, where are you? You vanished after a big early start.

[Ircher]

1. In 307:

Hopefully I'm not too late...

Late for what?

2.

Can we just like... choose a lynch and be done with the day?

Explain this post please? Why the rush?

Why not the rush when nothing is happening? If we are going to sit around and do nothing, I would rather the game day end earlier than later. Also, to be quite honest, I work much better on the latter days where there is actually some alignment-indicative info to work off of.

[Ircher]

VOTE: Byron L-1