Open 728: Sharing is Caring (GAME OVER)

[ruru]

How do you read davesaz atm, pin?

[pinturicchio]

How do you read davesaz atm, pin?

He's my other suspect after my reasoning: I'm sorting Dino and that's my priority, 'cause if my conclusion is that he's town, dave is a good vote, and I had some scum vibes coming from him on D1, but disregarded them 'cause some players started to say it was a bad vote and I was not having good reads on D1.

[ruru]

So like with 1568 I somehow was very strongly reminded of this

It's like similarly timed a little bit into d2, and is kind of a wallpost but seems to have a lot of things in it that you "don't think anymore" which I'm not sure why a town player posts as opposed to a scum player trying to demonstrate town thoughts?

Is it coincidence?

[ruru]

Actually can you post full readslist now?

I don't need explanations, just names and bins

[pinturicchio]

So like with 1568 I somehow was very strongly reminded of this

It's like similarly timed a little bit into d2, and is kind of a wallpost but seems to have a lot of things in it that you "don't think anymore" which I'm not sure why a town player posts as opposed to a scum player trying to demonstrate town thoughts?

Is it coincidence?

I couldn't agree less, especially because of context: in that game I was all over the place, and you know it. I said it already: I did this to motivate myself to play this game 'cause this will be the last one until further notice, since I have my college's final proyect in early August and it was either replacing out now or do something about it. I'm doing something about it.

So no, timing is totally different (I mean yeah both were on D2 but one was after being very productive and the other is one of the first content posts I did in the game), "kind of a wallpost" is NAI and in one I was giving a solid townread to ofrhz to pocket her and in the other I'm just putting my thoughts for everyone to see.

[pinturicchio]

Mathdino unsorted, wanna sort him to get better reads about the gamestate
HeWhoSwims conftown
ofrhz town
ruru town
the worst unsortable for me
Zoronos town but tired of him
davesaz scumlean
BlackStar null
HitAlt scumlean

[ruru]

So no, timing is totally different (I mean yeah both were on D2 but one was after being very productive and the other is one of the first content posts I did in the game), "kind of a wallpost" is NAI and in one I was giving a solid townread to ofrhz to pocket her and in the other I'm just putting my thoughts for everyone to see.

Part of the similarity I'm seeing is that both of them were the first time you really revealed information d2 (and you mentioned in the PT that you specifically avoided giving reads early d2 in case of a cop guilty), but in each case it was a long post that actually didn't give much information

[ruru]

@davesaz Can you post reads as well?

[pinturicchio]

So no, timing is totally different (I mean yeah both were on D2 but one was after being very productive and the other is one of the first content posts I did in the game), "kind of a wallpost" is NAI and in one I was giving a solid townread to ofrhz to pocket her and in the other I'm just putting my thoughts for everyone to see.

Part of the similarity I'm seeing is that both of them were the first time you really revealed information d2 (and you mentioned in the PT that you specifically avoided giving reads early d2 in case of a cop guilty), but in each case it was a long post that actually didn't give much information

Oh ok I see that. I think the difference is that in that game I was townreading ofrhz, doubted Dino's read on ofrhz and came back to the same place I was before, so yeah, it had no real content and tried to look busy; but now, even if I still think NSG was the scum target, thanks to doing that process I now think I can be part of this game and have my own reads. Now, the other difference is, again, context. That was the first time I revealed info d2, in this game this was the first time I revealed info in the entire game

[Almost50]

Sharing is Caring D2 VC #2

davesaz (3): Mathdino, the worst, ruru,
Mathdino (2): davesaz, pinturicchio,
the worst (1): BlackStar,

Not Voting: HeWhoSwims, ofrhz, HitAlt, Zoronos,

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch

(expired on 2018-06-21 21:15:00)

This is all you're getting from me today

[BlackStar]

I voted for the worst, not mathdino

[Almost50]

Fixed.. I think. I don't mind if everybody rechecked to verify their vote is where they wanted it to be. If you wish to amend it you're welcome to send he proper documents along with a considerable bribe.. erm.. I mean a cheque with a handsome figure to cover the expenses.

[the worst]

he voted for me, not dave

[davesaz]

@davesaz Can you post reads as well?

Not while l-2. Refused.

[the worst]

you're not l-2

[Zoronos]

Yeah, he is. But refusing to give reads is kinda... odd?
I mean, playing uncooperatively isn't a great way to get votes to move.

[Almost50]

Guys, I know how this looks, but I swear I'm not drunk. VC re-edited.

[the worst]

we should probably flashwagon A50 at this point

[the worst]

does senility set in the second you turn 50?

(please don't modkill me)

[Almost50]

does senility set in the second you turn 50?

(please don't modkill me)

No, but

the planet

I'm on has some bad effects on my brain.

[Zoronos]

Oh, I guess he's not at L-2.
W/E.

[davesaz]

I started out pumped to work on solving it, and y'all hit me with freezing water balloons. Still not happy or very motivated. That's a statement of fact, not an AtE, so don't even think about it. The difference is whether it's fake or not. Absolutely not fake. Ask MD what I wanted to do in the TM game when people started dumping crap on me.

The associations look bad but I'm still town. If townies can't recognize the neon signs during D1 that I don't know anyone's alignment, then just lynch me and get it over with. I tend to not put effort into things that nobody cares about.

Strong/weak refers to how much work is needed on the read, not how strongly/weakly town/scum.
I know that probably sounds weird... Example Mathdino is a medium town but it's a weak read. HitAlt and BlackStar are null and weak reads, etc.

davesaz (strong duh - the role PM can't be wrong)
HeWhoSwims - un-cc'd PR, would be weak read without that.

Zoronos (strong)
ruru (medium)
Mathdino (weak)

HitAlt (weak, really need to examine motivation which is very hard to get a handle on here)
BlackStar (weak)


ofrhz (must re-examine in light of flips)
the worst (weak)

pinturicchio (medium)

I've got plenty of other things I can do. Show me why I need to care about this.

[ruru]

HWS's recent posting intensified the scumread.

Umm, is this what a would-be weak townread looks like?

pinturicchio (medium)

If you aren't bluffing then vote there and make a case

Two players who are scumreading each other both voting for your hypo-inno

[davesaz]

Shade is not going to get you anywhere with me.

HWS's play, upon re-evaluation as a PR, is town. The read itself would be weak in terms of lack of evidence (other than the claim itself). Pre-claim PR's sometimes go out of their way to look like scum, though I don't think this is the case.

MD vote remains as long as he's voting me. MD town cannot vote me, and claim to not be able to recognize me given the town games we've played. I can vote for scum after wagon moves to scum.

[ruru]

Why's pin scum from your perspective