NY 213 - Game Over!

[Ausuka]

VOTE: Creature

I'm fine with this vote.

Interested in hearing more.

He's Creature. He's not interested. His response to the wagon will be easily sortable. His flip could either support or disprove the Almost theory. What more evidence is needed?

If the almost thing is false jarjar is still scummy btw.

[Almost50]

@Hopkirk:
How to sort a Creature 101 - The maual: Town!Creature posts. Scum!Creature doesn't. It's as simple as that.

[Ausuka]

I'm sure my vote will change as I get better actual reads on people as the day goes on.

Question: In this setup do we know exactly how many town Vs. how many scum are in the game?

Fun fact; generally you can find roughly the number of scum in a game by dividing the number of players by 4.5.

9/4.5 = 2. This is standard.
13/4.5 = 2.88888888889. rounds to 3. This is standard.
17/4.5 = 3.77777777778. rounds to 4. This is standard.
21/4.5 = 4.66666666667. rounds to 5. This is standard.

25/4.5 = 5.55555555556. I believe that this number, being very close to 5.5, indicates that we could have 5 scum and a traitor in this game. A low-powered town with 5 scum and a high-powered town with 6 scum are also possible but I think it's fairly likely we're dealing with a traitor here which is why I thought almost's posting was a possible traitor crumb. Maybe I'm just crazy but maybe there really is a mafia traitor in this game.

[Kublai Khan]

Huh. Second time Ausuka is mentioning a traitor.

[Ausuka]

Huh. Second time Ausuka is mentioning a traitor.

Yep, and I've explained why I believe there is a traitor. Do you actually scumread me for this?

[osuka]

If you divide the player count by 4, you get a closer number to what you would expect from a vanilla mafia vs vanilla townies setup. I don’t think we should be talking setup right now but I feel like it’s obvious there’s 5-6 scum

[wavemode]

Question: In this setup do we know exactly how many town Vs. how many scum are in the game?

VOTE: Charles510

[JarJarDrinks]

Bandwagons this early in day 1 seem to me more scummy than town, so

thats

where I put my vote. Makes it easier to "accidentally" lynch town.

Whats

where you put your vote? You didnt vote for a bandwagon, u voted for me. Was there something about my vote that made it seem scummier than the other people on the wagon?

[JarJarDrinks]

If the almost thing is false jarjar is still scummy btw.

Why am I scummy again?

[Ausuka]

If you divide the player count by 4, you get a closer number to what you would expect from a vanilla mafia vs vanilla townies setup. I don’t think we should be talking setup right now but I feel like it’s obvious there’s 5-6 scum

Yeah ok maybe I'm just wrong. I don't think this applies to mountainous but it does apply to a normal setup- you always get the normal number of scum - 0.25 and 25/4=6.25 so maybe there are just 6 scum, that would make sense. iirc mafia games get more scumsided the more players there are, though, so it's still POSSIBLE we have a traitor, just not as likely as I thought.

Pedit: Had bad gut feeling from your posts earlier and your suggestion that we d1 lynch Almost just to test the theory is scummy to me.

[osuka]

Jarjar is giving me mad newbscum vibes, which is funny since he’s played more here than I have

[JarJarDrinks]

Jarjar is giving me mad newbscum vibes, which is funny since he’s played more here than I have

Y all yall gotta be all vague and shit?

If u wanna shade me then quote the posts, point out what's scummy. These empty reads are trash.

[osuka]

it’s page 6, I shouldn’t need to tell anyone to read the thread this soon

And yet here we are

[JarJarDrinks]

Y all yall gotta be all vague and shit?

[Ircher]

Day 1 VC #2

Almost50 (3) - EspeciallyTheLies (83), JarJarDrinks (114), Kublai Khan (122)
Creature (2) - TheRampage (100), Ausaka (104)
Hopkirk (1) - Almost50 (97)
JarJarDrinks (2) - Charles510 (87), Osuka (124)
Osuka (3) - Dunnstral (77), Texcat, Hopkirk (90)
Texcat (2) - ArcAngel9 (81), Edosurist (84)
Charles510 (1) - Wavemode (131)
Wavemode (0) -
Not Voting (11) - Fumuki, Creature, WhemeStar, Lalendra, Lovebird, Andriod18, Myloninja13, Scioness Sajj, Flavor Leaf, Pine, Srceenplay

Lynch Threshold

During day 1, it takes 13 votes to lynch a player.

Deadline

Day 1 ends on June 30, 2018 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2018-06-30 20:00:00).

Moderator Notes

Creature has (expired on 2018-06-17 20:19:15) to respond to his prod in-thread.
If you notice any mistakes, please point them out.

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Day 1

Dunnstral: Osuka (77)
Almost50: Hopkirk (97)
Kublai Khan: Osuka (76) --> Almost50 (122)
Hopkirk: Osuka (90)
Edosurist: Texcat (84)
Ausuka: JarJarDrinks (89) --> Creature (104)
EspeciallyTheLies: Almost50 (83)
JarJarDrinks: Osuka (85) --> JarJarDrinks (114)
Osuka: Wavemode (80) --> JarJarDrinks (124)
Texcat: Osuka (79)
ArcAngel9: Texcat (81)
Charles510: JarJarDrinks (87)
Wavemode: Texcat (82) --> Charles510 (131)
TheRampage: Creature (100)

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Pre-Game

Dunnstral (2): Texcat (9) --> Pine (43)
Srceenplay (1): Andriod18 (62)
Pine (1): Osuka (16)
Kublai Khan (1): Pine (34)
Hopkirk (1): Osuka (66)
Edosurist (1): Pine (42)
Osuka (2): Pine (28) --> Wavemode (33)
Texcat (1): Pine (44)
Wavemode (1): Osuka (31)

[osuka]

This is by far the earliest in any game I’ve had to quote myself

How about this, nobody posts anything d1 and we don’t Lynch in case we end up voting a townie

Then we convince the mafia not to kill anyone and we call it a draw

I'm going to call an early SR on this. Some kind of combination of LAMIST and "haha let's do this anti-Town thing as a joke but no really."

best pregame case I've seen in a long time.

VOTE: osuka

follow up question: is it the only pregame case you’ve seen in a while?

VOTE: JarJarDrinks for jumping on the osuka bandwagon.

Why is that bad?

Thats what I wanna know. Why aint he townreading me for jumping on it?

Here’s a better question: why would anyone townread you for doing that

followup to ur followup:

if I got a nickel for every time this was said about me

what specifically do u get called out about? Being LAMIST?

i mean what they say will vary, but I generally get called out as being scummy very early in the game by at least some of the players. Usually during rvs

So I guess we should just give u a pass on any scumminess huh?

scumpoints for an unprompted self-meta this early in the game

VOTE: JarJarDrinks for jumping on the osuka bandwagon.

Why is that bad?

Thats what I wanna know. Why aint he townreading me for jumping on it?

Here’s a better question: why would anyone townread you for doing that

I'll answer u after charles answers me.

So I guess we have to lynch almost to see if we win on day 1.

VOTE: Almost50

VOTE: jarjar
the lynch train goes choo choo

Jarjar is giving me mad newbscum vibes, which is funny since he’s played more here than I have

plus the way you reacted to the push on this page

[Kublai Khan]

Huh. Second time Ausuka is mentioning a traitor.

Yep, and I've explained why I believe there is a traitor. Do you actually scumread me for this?

If you were a traitor and wanted to flag to your team who you are, then bringing up the possibility of a traitor apropos of nothing is a pretty good beacon.

[Almost50]

Huh. Second time Ausuka is mentioning a traitor.

Yep, and I've explained why I believe there is a traitor. Do you actually scumread me for this?

If you were a traitor and wanted to flag to your team who you are, then bringing up the possibility of a traitor apropos of nothing is a pretty good beacon.

If that's true then dueling on it persistently is another way of signaling it to your team.

[Kublai Khan]

Huh. Second time Ausuka is mentioning a traitor.

Yep, and I've explained why I believe there is a traitor. Do you actually scumread me for this?

If you were a traitor and wanted to flag to your team who you are, then bringing up the possibility of a traitor apropos of nothing is a pretty good beacon.

If that's true then dueling on it persistently is another way of signaling it to your team.

*low whistle*

Not bad.
- Unprompted chainsaw defending
- "No, you!"
- Lying ("persistently")

I was voting your for the stupid BS stuff you were doing earlier, you could have ridden that out. But now you are super number 1 scum with a bullet.

[Creature]

Yah, don't care about this game rn

[Creature]

Day 1's all yours

[Creature]

Don't blame me, blame school

I have like 1 (some project), 2 (biology), 3 (physic-chemistry), 4 (physics), 5? (physical education?) presentations to do besides lots of homework.

[Creature]

I'm gonna be pretty active when those are all done

[Creature]

Sorry I can't do anything rn

[Creature]

Meh, this was more of a prod-dodge