Minuet's Trio [Game Over]

[Ginngie]

oh wait there's more people involved

[Kokichi Oma]

Mastina what do you think of wisdom

[mastina]

kokichi can be town too i think, i like the mood

I don't.

VOTE: Kokichi Oma.

[Ginngie]

OKAY

mastina saying a thing, perfectly okay

Dunn thinking it's fake, given that it's mastina, yeah sure I can buy it

Kaede wanting to know why? Perfectly reasonable question

Moment taking issue with someone simply asking a question on their stance

now that's bullshit

[Kokichi Oma]

Mastina you already voted me before. You sure you're paying attention? Why am I scum?

[Ginngie]

muffin the fuck is your moment town read based on

[Moment]

OKAY

mastina saying a thing, perfectly okay

Dunn thinking it's fake, given that it's mastina, yeah sure I can buy it

Kaede wanting to know why? Perfectly reasonable question

Moment taking issue with someone simply asking a question on their stance

now that's bullshit

Did you read the clarification just a few posts later?

[grapes]

i know
i checked your account

i dunno where to vote zzz
every wagon has people i both do and dont like on it

Vote hebi, we'll sort grapes later

wis/hebi or am i bad?

[Ginngie]

I have a hard time believing that anyone could actually have this sort of thought process and ask that question.

The underline is that, FakeGod has in fact used a role that has been present on several players but effective at different game days for each, hence seeing a D3 IC is not something outside what he would do, hence I asked that question. It is possible that Dunnstral either A) Doesn't know this, B) Is trying to throw shade at mastina or C) Does in fact have something to counter that statement. The question is to verify within which option does this fall.

Ah, I understand. Your original question implied a much less nuanced view; at least, that's how I read it. I'm actually in agreement with you there in wondering what Dunnstral may have to strictly counterclaim mastina.

Thinking more, if Dunnstral truly

did

have something that would imply that mastina was scum fakeclaiming, I would have expected him to elaborate more, or at least say something else; after all, finding someone as confirmed scum seems to warrant more words than simply "nice fakeclaim". It's possible that Dunnstral thought that mastina was fakeclaiming and yet still town, but in that case one wonders what his motivation for counterclaiming would be in the first place.

It seems as though Dunnstral was revealing some sort of Innocent Child role anyways meaning these questions will be largely irrelevant in the context of determining Dunnstral's alignment, but if not they're worth considering.



With that misconception cleared up, I'm not actually certain where my vote would be right now, could I use it.

also muffin, by your definition of fence sitting, this pretty much is how moment backed out of the accusation.

By then agreeing with Kaede about what was weird about Dunn's post and then going on about how some things are possible, and that there are motivations probably, but doesn't explore it. Just says that it's possible.

Also this is another thing but I find it lowkey PR hunting for roles that can confirm people as town to try and bring up discussion about roles like that and who is doing what with it.

[mastina]

isaac
hs
mastina
moment
kokichi
purr
grapes
andriod
dunnstral
-----LYNCH BELOW THIS LINE----- <-- i want to move this line a couple notches down but i can't in good faith
nosferatu
wisdom
hebi
kaede
ginngie
nancy
cupcake

With the exception of Dunnstral and Nosferatu, your list is literally an exact inverse of mine.

I would lynch in Brian Skies/Human Sequencer/Kokichi Oma/Purrcoet/grapes/andriod/Nosferatu. (No, not all are scumreads, but none of them are townreads.) I would not lynch any of Dunnstral/Wisdom/hebichan/Kaede Akamatsu/Ginngie/Nancy Drew/Katsuki; all of them are townreads.

[Ginngie]

orrrrrrrrrr crazy theory, dunnstral was joking

If he was, the humor was certainly lost on me. Is that how you interpreted it when you first saw it?

I'm not sure how meaningful it is, but on some unexplainable instinctual level I find it strange how, if that's your viewpoint, this was your reaction to my theorizing:

orrrrrrrrrr crazy theory, dunnstral was joking

okay question

Do you have a sense of humour

or is your personality in mafia to take every post strictly serious.

I need to know because this could create issues if we communicate on different wavelengths

[mastina]

(Forgot Moment as well; Moment is also in the lynch list of players that are not townreads.)

[Moment]

also muffin, by your definition of fence sitting, this pretty much is how moment backed out of the accusation.

By then agreeing with Kaede about what was weird about Dunn's post and then going on about how some things are possible, and that there are motivations probably, but doesn't explore it. Just says that it's possible.

Also this is another thing but I find it lowkey PR hunting for roles that can confirm people as town to try and bring up discussion about roles like that and who is doing what with it.

Can you really call a misconception being cleared up "backing out"?

I didn't interpret Dunn's post as a joke initially; it seemed obvious to me that he was counterclaiming mastina with some other kind of Innocent Child role. Under that interpretation, someone asking what would make Dunn think that mastina is scum would be a stupidly obvious question; that's why someone actually having the thought process and asking that question seemed so unrealistic to me.

It seems to me like you've simply chosen this as something to scumread rather than objectively looking at the context; unless you have a really good explanation, I think just objectively speaking saying that what I said was "backing out of an accusation" instead of a being the clearing of a misconception is false.

[zMuffinMan]

With the exception of Dunnstral and Nosferatu, your list is literally an exact inverse of mine.

i think that is a good sign for me

trying to remember when this has happened before

[zMuffinMan]

one of the xeno games maybe

[Purrcocet]

MASTINA HOW COULD YOU

[Ankamius]

good to see mastina's reads and my reads are already leagues away from each other's

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Dunnstral/Wisdom/hebichan/Kaede Akamatsu/Ginngie/Nancy Drew/Katsuki; all of them are townreads.

Can you explain Gingie? ngl you're one of the people i trust to read gingie correctly, although that comes with the caveat that i can trust you to be town.

[Brian Skies]

I would lynch in Brian Skies/Human Sequencer/Kokichi Oma/Purrcoet/grapes/andriod/Nosferatu.

This is good, but only because my super secret scumread is in here.

[zMuffinMan]

muffin the fuck is your moment town read based on

would you believe i daycopped him?

i probably wouldn't believe that, but would you? (just trying to get an idea of what i can and can't fake-claim here)

how do you know i'm town-reading moment anyway?

[Moment]

okay question

Do you have a sense of humour

or is your personality in mafia to take every post strictly serious.

I need to know because this could create issues if we communicate on different wavelengths

If you assume a post is a joke because it seems ridiculous or far-fetched and it turns out to not have been made in jest, you just recognized something potentially meaningful but chose to ignore it.

I really don't think it was unreasonable for me to have interpreted posts I did as serious.

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(Realized that I forgot to respond to this)

Could you restate those intentions for me, if you don't mind? I don't recall hearing you ever actually scumread me and on a review of you ISO all I see is this:

its right there

Well, that's frustratingly cryptic. What, then, a pressure vote? A vote to "figure out if I'm town or not"?

It's becoming quite bothersome having everyone on my wagon provide no justification (with the exception of Nancy Drew, whose justification is so consistently and unambiguously false that the thought of having to respond to more of it makes me tired; I can feel my eyelids becoming heavy already).

[Ginngie]

Can you really call a misconception being cleared up "backing out"?

I didn't interpret Dunn's post as a joke initially; it seemed obvious to me that he was counterclaiming mastina with some other kind of Innocent Child role. Under that interpretation, someone asking what would make Dunn think that mastina is scum would be a stupidly obvious question; that's why someone actually having the thought process and asking that question seemed so unrealistic to me.

It seems to me like you've simply chosen this as something to scumread rather than objectively looking at the context; unless you have a really good explanation, I think just objectively speaking saying that what I said was "backing out of an accusation" instead of a being the clearing of a misconception is false.

I didn't interpret Dunn's post as a joke initially; it seemed obvious to me that he was counterclaiming mastina with some other kind of Innocent Child role. Under that interpretation, someone asking what would make Dunn think that mastina is scum would be a stupidly obvious question; that's why someone actually having the thought process and asking that question seemed so unrealistic to me.

It seems to me like you've simply chosen this as something to scumread rather than objectively looking at the context; unless you have a really good explanation, I think just objectively speaking saying that what I said was "backing out of an accusation" instead of a being the clearing of a misconception is false.

I didn't interpret Dunn's post as a joke initially; it seemed obvious to me that he was counterclaiming mastina with some other kind of Innocent Child role. Under that interpretation, someone asking what would make Dunn think that mastina is scum would be a stupidly obvious question; that's why someone actually having the thought process and asking that question seemed so unrealistic to me.

Under that interpretation, someone asking what would make Dunn think that mastina is scum would be a stupidly obvious question; that's why someone actually having the thought process and asking that question seemed so unrealistic to me.

a stupidly obvious question; asking that question seemed so unrealistic to me.

;~;

[Moment]

When I say "a stupidly obvious question", I meant a question where the

answer

was obvious.

[mastina]

now is the part of the day where people should start forming larger wagons instead of having lots of small ones

Moment [4]

- Nosferatu, Nancy Drew 39, Purrcocet, Wisdom

Katsuki [4]

- zMuffinMan, Dunnstral, Kaede Akamatsu, andriod18

Ginngie [2]

- Moment, Human Sequencer

Wisdom [2]

- Kokichi Oma, Katsuki

hebichan [1]

- grapes

Kokichi Oma [1]

- mastina

mastina [1]

- hebichan

Nancy Drew 39 [1]

- Brian Skies

Not Voting [1]

- Ginngie
the wisdom, kokichi, mastina wagons should probably collapse and move to a different wagon because they really aren't viable

Yeah uh the problem there is...literally every single wagon there except for Kokichi Oma and maybe, maybe,

maybe

Moment (Moment's an ambivalent read that is thoroughly null) suck.

So no. I'm still in :lazyICmode:, so I'm not going to effort on why the town being voted are town and why we have only one (maaaaaaaaaybe two) scum being voted, but I will staunchly refuse to budge from the only guaranteed scum wagon.

[Ginngie]

i don't think moment is scum

idunno why I would think that muffin