mini 2013: the chorus of i'll call b4 i cum mafia (all done)

[UnaBombaH]

there's a case for scum!Ruby here I guess but not yet imo

As I said before, scum!Ruby was ONLY possible with a scum-flip from Chill..
Wouldn't push there yet though, I wanna hear who went where and blocked who.

[UnaBombaH]

Should I claim? I think we got this in the bag.

Queue the music..!

Depending on the claim it's either gonna be Benny Hill or CSI:Miami..

[Azurit]

Read List

town
Morality
Lucky Otter
Dunnstral
Una Bombah

Koki
SIV

the worst

scum

Don't know what to do with Ruby, because I'm very unexperienced with this part of mafia games. I'd listen to my townies there and don't like to rush things.

[the worst]

y1k3s

are those reads too bad to come from scum?

[the worst]

.......probably

Azurit may I suggest trying to reason through why I'm ever scum here + partners with Performer and Tchill?

[Kokichi Oma]

Those are some bad reads, ma'am

[schadd_]

Vote count 3.1

SIV36 (1):

Kokichi Oma

not voting (8):

UnaBombaH, Dunnstral, Azurit, Morality, the worst, LuckyOtter, SIV36, Ruby Red

with 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. day 3 starts now and ends june 30 at 20:30 central US time; in (expired on 2018-06-30 20:30:00)

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[Morality]

Those are some bad reads, ma'am

I disagree that they are bad reads, actually.

I actually think they are rather townie reads.

[Morality]

They are way too political reads for me to believe it’s comingfrom scumAzur. I just don’t see Azur making those reads as scum here at all.

[SIV36]

DId you change your mind about solving the game morality?

[Morality]

Lucky and Dunn are near mechanically town aligned based on wagons and scum targets. I’ll pretend I’m not on the reads list so not to be biased.

Scum does not put Otter or Dunn that high on their reads list.

Otter could be scum based on Tchill’s play before lynch, and I had been thinking about pushing Otter at the time as well, however I’m going to look at other options as I do see high townpotential in Otter. Tchill is the main reason I’m a little paranoid of Otter.

[Morality]

I’m not sure how I feel about Ruby right now. I can definitely see the tracker being a gambit move.

I say we should mass claim actually.

Normally I would accept claiming first, but in this scenario, I think claiming last would be more beneficial if that can be accepted.

[Morality]

I’m actually semitown reading Kokichi and Worst for sayingAzur’s reads were bad.

[Morality]

there's a case for scum!Ruby here I guess but not yet imo

As I said before, scum!Ruby was ONLY possible with a scum-flip from Chill..
Wouldn't push there yet though, I wanna hear who went where and blocked who.

I’m not actually following this.

Why couldn’t Ruby be scum without Tchill?

I mean, Tchill was scum, so that’s obviously true now, but I don’t see why this was noticed beforehand.

Actually, I do see it after I typed all of this out, but I still want you to explain it to me, Unah.

[Morality]

I do have one person in mind who I think is probably scum if Ruby isn’t, but I’ll wait it out until after the mass claim.

Hint, semitown reading just means i thought it was townie play, not that I thought they couldn’t be scum.

[Morality]

Why?

Una. Tchill was on the Dunn wagon, too.

Una and profii. Both of you seem to be voting tchill mostly based on gut reads and his wagon hopping. With less than a day left, this looks more like trying to avoid being on the lynch than trying to rally the troops for a better lynch.

Yeah I don't see a plausible alternative here. I'm happy to hammer unless anyone thinks there's anything else worth discussing?

These both look like Lucky is actually sneakily protecting Tchill, lightweight chainsawing in the first post, and stalling in the second one while still acting like they are in on it.

[Morality]

Vote count 1.7

Dunnstral (2):

Azurit, Ruby Red

profii (2):

Kokichi Oma, UnaBombaH

Performer (2):

the worst, LuckyOtter

Kokichi Oma (2):

profii, MariaR

SIV36 (1):

Performer

Azurit (1):

yeasayer

Tchill13 (1):

Dunnstral

the worst (1):

SIV36

not voting (1):

Tchill13


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Vote count 1.8

Kokichi Oma (3):

Performer, SIV36, Tchill13

Dunnstral (2):

Azurit, Ruby Red

Tchill13 (2):

Dunnstral, MariaR

profii (1):

UnaBombaH

Performer (1):

LuckyOtter

Azurit (1):

yeasayer

SIV36 (1):

Kokichi Oma

MariaR (1):

profii

not voting (1):

the worst

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• yeasayer did not pick up their prod and must be topped over out the blue
  
• like, replaced

Vote count 1.9

Tchill13 (3):

Dunnstral, MariaR, Azurit

Kokichi Oma (2):

Performer, Tchill13

Dunnstral (1):

Ruby Red

profii (1):

UnaBombaH

Performer (1):

LuckyOtter

Azurit (1):

Morality

SIV36 (1):

Kokichi Oma

MariaR (1):

profii

not voting (2):

the worst, SIV36

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• i hope that u do too

So these three vote counts are actually rather telling. Performer is voting SIV in the first one, Tchill is not voting in the second one, performer, SIV, and Tchill are all voting Kokichi. SIV unvotes. This leads me to believe that both SIV and Kokichi are both town.

[Morality]

Dunnstral was on Tchill the entire time alongside townMaria, in addition to being the main wagon before Performer got counterwagond. This lends me to believe that Dunnstral is almost certainly town. Azurit and Ruby Red start voting Dunn, and I believe this starts the main Dunn wagon? I’ll go double check what happens after, but if that is true, I’m locking Dunn in as town even further.

[Morality]

Vote count 1.b

Dunnstral (6):

Ruby Red, the worst, Tchill13, Azurit, LuckyOtter, Performer

Tchill13 (3):

Dunnstral, MariaR, profii

Azurit (1):

Morality

UnaBombaH (1):

SIV36

SIV36 (1):

Kokichi Oma

not voting (1):

UnaBombaH

with 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. day 1 ends june 11 at 02:00 central US time; in (expired on 2018-06-11 02:00:00)

mod notes

• mariar is VLA

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Well, what do you know. 2 flipped Mafia joined the wagon.

However, something else in this vote count is also telling.

No one else on theDunn wagon at its largest has flipped.

However, Maria and Profii are flipped town, alongside Dunn being basically confirmed town here, the Tchill wagon is an all town wagon.

I’ve explained my reasonings for believing Kokichi and SIV to be town recently, and I know my alignment.

So if I am to believe that scum was going to be off the wagon, then Unah is all that is left.

However, Maria died Night 1. Scum was weakening the threat on Tchill, almost definitely a Tchill decision.

This shows scum felt threatened. The last scum islikely on the wagon.

[Kokichi Oma]

Still think siv is scum

[Morality]

Vote count 1.c

Dunnstral (4):

Ruby Red, Azurit, LuckyOtter, Performer

Performer (3):

Dunnstral, the worst, Tchill13

Tchill13 (2):

MariaR, profii

Azurit (1):

Morality

UnaBombaH (1):

SIV36

SIV36 (1):

Kokichi Oma

not voting (1):

UnaBombaH

with 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. day 1 ends june 11 at 02:00 central US time; in (expired on 2018-06-11 02:00:00)

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• it's pagetop

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The worst voting Performer second is telling. Scum didn’t really have a need to be worried after the single Dunn vote, but when the worst joined, it made it likely that a wagon was going to start up, so Tchill joined in fast to not look like an obvious bus. I noticed that the next vote count that I’ll bring up, Tchill is in the fourth spot, not the third spot, meaning he flaked out on the bus then decided to go back to it. Otter was in the third spot. This could mean they decided to back off then immediately go in for a double bus, but this might give Otter some more credibility, however I think it’s NAI on Otter. Otter is still a front runner for scum.

However, The Worst being on second when Dunn wagon has steam, and Performers has a solo vote, is extremely town telling.

[Morality]

Still think siv is scum

I felt this way as well before I started analyzing the game more in depth, so this is a townie post.

SIV is definitely someone scum will be likely to try to mislynch.

[Morality]

Still think siv is scum

For you to think SIV is scum, you have to believe all three scum would feel it necessary to be he only ones on you to try to force a wagon on you, only for SIV to back off, and then they don’t touch up on it again.

I don’t see that as scum play.

[Morality]

Could I be wrong? Yes. Do I think that is the more likely outcome? No. I just don’t see that as beneficial to scum, and I don’t see Tchill voting there at that time.

I do see, however, Performer being on the wagon, and TownSIV joining, allowing it to pick up a little more steam, and then ScumChill hops on in hopes of something more to come out of it.

When SIV backs away, the wagon dissipates.

It’s more mechanically town orientated on SIV’s part.

[Morality]

The last scum is in Otter, Ruby, or Azurit.

I actually think that is my order of preference as well.