NY 213 - Game Over!

[Ircher]

Day 1 VC #10

Performer (1) - Creature (395)
Almost50 (3) - EspeciallyTheLies (83), Lalendra (209), Edosurist (222)
Pine (0) -
Creature (1) - TheRampage (100)
Kublai Khan (0) -
Hopkirk (0) -
Edosurist (2) - JarJarDrinks (231), Lovebird (259)
Ausuka (1) - Scioness Sajj (406)
Lalendra (2) - WhemeStar (234), Hopkirk (279)
Lovebird (1) - Andriod18 (290)
JarJarDrinks (3) - Golden Robster (319), Myloninja13 (326), Osuka (353)
Osuka (4) - Dunnstral (77), Texcat, Pine (176), Almost50 (390)
Andriod18 (1) - Vaxkiller (437)
Texcat (0) -
ArcAngel9 (0) -

Charles510

Vaxkiller (1) - Wavemode (131)
Wavemode (0) -
TheRampage (1) - ArcAngel9 (223)
Myloninja13 (1) - Ausuka (429)
Scioness Sajj (1) - Kublai Khan (388)
Not Voting (2) - Flavor Leaf,

Srceenplay

Performer

Lynch Threshold

During day 1, it takes 13 votes to lynch a player.

Deadline

Day 1 ends on June 30, 2018 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2018-06-30 20:00:00).

Moderator Notes

I'm going to ask that people try to avoid abusing the vote tags. For instance, 406 got interpreted as a vote for Pine by the automated VCer.

Prodded TheRampage. They have (expired on 2018-06-21 11:17:23) to respond in-thread.
Ausuka is V/LA until Friday, June 22, 2018.
EspeciallyTheLies is V/LA for an indefinite time.

Note that

all

players must post a

minimum

of once every 96 hours (i.e.: 4 days), or I will prod them.

Creature is apparently V/LA until June 20.
Performer replaced Srceenplay.
If you notice any mistakes, please point them out. (That includes looking at the voting history.)

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Day 1

Dunnstral: Osuka (77)
Almost50: Hopkirk (97) --> Edosurist (226) --> Osuka (390)
Golden Robster: Almost50 (177) --> Wavemode (183) --> Osuka (236) --> Ausuka (317) --> JarJarDrinks (319)
Pine: Osuka (176)
Creature: Performer (385)
Kublai Khan: Osuka (76) --> Almost50 (122) --> Scioness Sajj (388)
WhemeStar: Lalendra (234)
Hopkirk: Osuka (90) --> Lalendra (279)
Edosurist: Texcat (84) --> Almost50 (222)
Ausuka: JarJarDrinks (89) --> Creature (104) --> Myloninja13 (429)
Lalendra: Almost50 (209)
EspeciallyTheLies: Almost50 (83)
Lovebird: Edosurist (259)
JarJarDrinks: Osuka (85) --> Almost50 (114) --> Charles510 (186) --> Edosurist (231)
Osuka: Wavemode (80) --> JarJarDrinks (124) --> ArcAngel9 (229) --> Pine (332) --> JarJarDrinks (353)
Texcat: Osuka (79)
Andriod18: Kublai Khan (190) --> Lovebird (290)
ArcAngel9: Texcat (81) --> TheRampage (223)
Charles510: JarJarDrinks (87) --> (Null) (310)
Vaxkiller: JarJarDrinks (363) --> Scioness Sajj (389) --> Andriod18 (437)
Wavemode: Texcat (82) --> Charles510 (131)
TheRampage: Creature (100)
Myloninja13: Edosurist (233) --> JarJarDrinks (326)
Scioness Sajj: Ausuka (406)

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Pre-Game

Dunnstral (2): Texcat (9) --> Pine (43)
Srceenplay (1): Andriod18 (62)
Pine (1): Osuka (16)
Kublai Khan (1): Pine (34)
Hopkirk (1): Osuka (66)
Edosurist (1): Pine (42)
Osuka (2): Pine (28) --> Wavemode (33)
Texcat (1): Pine (44)
Wavemode (1): Osuka (31)

[Ircher]

Prodding Edosurist (2d 1h). They have (expired on 2018-06-21 16:38:56) to respond in-thread.

[Performer]

Ahh, I have no idea what to do here.

If you are town , just focus on a few people at a time. D1 in large normals are typically a ton of information. Narrow it down to a few people at a time, is one way to go about it. That's what I'm trying to do to keep sane here.
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Ausuka, Dunnstral, JarJarDrinks, Kublai Khan, Lalendra, Pine, Srceenplay, texcat, TheRampage, Wavemode, WhemeStar,

How can you have TR wavemode and whemestar?

and Screenplay jesus

Tr on golden here. I replaced in to help out ircher, my old-time buddy - before that, I read the slots I could replace into. I was seeing screenplay as scummy, but when I wanted to choose another slot I thought was still open, it was too late and I was stuck into this one. Fortunately this slot (me) I'm in , is town.
I can see why golden has sr on screenplay though, he posted quite a bit of fluff.
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"One of the reasons why we never seem to rhyme is you never try to see it my way. You expect me to play in a certain way and SR me for not following the mold."
@a50 I know right? So many people sr my playstyle, but they never detail why. I've come to accept this and just play regardless. It's like my bball league - I can't score as well as others but I'm damn good in other areas so I just keep playing. In some games here, I play great and that's great, in others not so much, but we can't let that derail us, we learn and move on.

[Performer]

Stop u dont scumread me.

what makes you think that

cuz ur a good player and I think ur town so u should be townreading me

what does being good and being town have to do with this?

cuz I believe only a bad player or scum would scumread me right now.

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So you know he usually doesn't do anything day 1, but can easily be spotted as scum if he continues his lurk on later days?

My last unfinished game w creature was a while ago but all I recall is not thinking his play is anything special.

Which is why I think it's shady that so many people are clamoring to keep votes off him. Like I'm not saying u people should be voting him but he's done nothing in this game to warrant a defense from anybody.

I assume that if people start voting creature they will park their votes. He is easy enough to read that so he will be most likely bussed.

Lynching him d1 if he is scum - sure; wagoning him early in the day when he is on vla - what for?

Why r people on creature. His day 1 is not strong

Agreed with jar, as I stated on pg 18 regarding folks like creature. If he's v/la because of school, ok, that's NAI but based on what he's done so far, it doesn't provide much for us.
Tr on jar.

Also agree with scioness though I don't get more from that so she is still null for me.

Vax defending creature is very weird.

[Performer]

Same.

Now the Scioness Saj wagon, could be a thing.

wagon won't start itself?

VOTE: Scioness Sajj

choo choo

So vax defends creature, khan votes scioness for her 387 post, vax jumps on. Need to ISO vax & scioness later.
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I'll start it then. The Almost50 wagon sadly isn't going to happen today.

VOTE: Scioness Sajj

Actually. Kublai, do you have any reason to not vote for JarJar?

What's your case on jar?

VOTE: Performer

New wagon

Creature , man, what's up! This is quite a proactive move you made there.
Speaking of proactive, tr on khan.

[Performer]

VOTE: JarJarDrinks for jumping on the osuka bandwagon.

I see I'm gonna need an inhaler for this page.

Correction: I will need an inhaler for your one-line posts, creature.
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Did an ISO on scioness, vax, & wavemode:

scioness & vax keep defending creature - who has posted a little more on pgs like 16-18. Later vax makes what looks like an opportunistic vote on scioness, while she votes asuka.
wavemode naked votes osuka, votes texcat as a joke or rvs post?, votes the charles slot due to him asking a game setup question, does a prodge post.

[Hopkirk]

Skimmed a bit. Not time to make a full post tonight. Should do tomorrow.
If I said I liked Ouska, I don't now.

[Ausuka]

Ok so I think performer is town.

Also I think for this game especially it would be better to call me “ausuka“ than “asuka“.

[Almost50]

Also I think for this game especially it would be better to call me “ausuka“ than “asuka“.

@: I have a better idea. Instead of typing your names we can use your avatar pics to reference/address you

[Creature]

Guess I need to resume catching up.

I stopped at page 6, right?

[Creature]

I'm sure my vote will change as I get better actual reads on people as the day goes on.

Question: In this setup do we know exactly how many town Vs. how many scum are in the game?

Fun fact; generally you can find roughly the number of scum in a game by dividing the number of players by 4.5.

9/4.5 = 2. This is standard.
13/4.5 = 2.88888888889. rounds to 3. This is standard.
17/4.5 = 3.77777777778. rounds to 4. This is standard.
21/4.5 = 4.66666666667. rounds to 5. This is standard.

25/4.5 = 5.55555555556. I believe that this number, being very close to 5.5, indicates that we could have 5 scum and a traitor in this game. A low-powered town with 5 scum and a high-powered town with 6 scum are also possible but I think it's fairly likely we're dealing with a traitor here which is why I thought almost's posting was a possible traitor crumb. Maybe I'm just crazy but maybe there really is a mafia traitor in this game.

Nah, the right formula is X-1/4:

9-1/4=2
13-1/4=3
17-1/4=4
21-1/4=5

[Creature]

wtf page 6 is like trying to guess how many scum there are? What's the point?

[Creature]

Creature wagon is bad

For some reason I don't find this post so unbelievable to come from town!WhemeStar

[Creature]

I agree with A50 about Creature, but am willing to give Creature the benefit of doubt for the moment. Sometimes people do just get busy with their real lives.

Not the texcat I used to know 2

[Creature]

Cool Golden Robster can be town

[texcat]

I agree with A50 about Creature, but am willing to give Creature the benefit of doubt for the moment. Sometimes people do just get busy with their real lives.

Not the texcat I used to know 2

You said this same thing the last game we played together and I was town then too.

[Creature]

This is Town!Creature:

1- Town!Creature.
2- Town!Creature. (I wasn't in this)
3- Town!Creature.

And this is Scum!Him

1- Scum!Creature.
2- Scum!Creature.

Feel free to find more games and compare his play as either alignment to his play here then tell me the wagon on him is bad.

Like sure if he’s the same later on go for it

It’s been like 2 pages though

I think the biggest tell on creature was that after 2 votes on him, he didn't appear and say sorry guys, I have a busy schedule, but here is what I see right now. He just said, sorry, got a busy schedule, keep me alive to Day 2 and I will be more active, and then left again. Creature needs to go and then we can continue on with active town players the rest of the game.

Uh oh, just proved you wrong.

[texcat]

Hey everyone!

Ok so I've been skimming up to pg 7 and I am just dying laughing at some of these funny posts. I mean, man. Smokebomb throwing, claiming bp pgo compulsive commuter...one of the funniest games I've seen in awhile.

On a serious note, I don't like asuka mentioning a traitor. I hosted an offsite game where I had a mafia traitor. It really looks like signaling of some sort , what she did. And that's not a good thing for town, if there's a traitor.

Personally I think there exists 4-6 scum in this 25 pool if I were to go by the 20% guideline.

The mentioning of creature lurking on d1 , is true from what I recall. He's the only one I played with in a large normal , years ago. Interestingly he was town that game. Unless it's one of my idols, I don't believe giving someone a free pass just because it's how they play, is a wise idea.

Anyway, have to continue my catchup. I have a big bunch of null right now.

Reading this as scummy

me too

This metoo post is not good. ETL, can you tell us anything about why you think the post was scummy?

[Creature]

Either way, I get flipped and they won't ever guess I named the whole of my scum team for real

Wait...is that literally a scumclaim

Wild guess: Lalendra town?

[Creature]

5? (physical education?) presentations to do

How does one do a presentation in phys ed

Think of nutritionism

Good thing I've already done it today.

[Creature]

Spoiler:

I'm gonna follow Khan here.
VOTE: Almost50

FINALLY! The "I'm gonna follow Khan here." soft-clears KK and implicates Edo. It's almost like he's saying he knows I'm town and is already blaming it on KK. Bad bad vote here.

VOTE: Edosurist

My fellow townies, follow me. Are you ready to lynch a mafioso?

I'm gonna follow Almost here.
VOTE: Edosurist

ffs I missed the meme

[Creature]

But what about Myloninja? He doesn't get a tr?

No

[Creature]

or say it's him posting because you've said that's what town him would do?

lol that's classic

[Creature]

Ausuka, Dunnstral, JarJarDrinks, Kublai Khan, Lalendra, Pine,

Srceenplay

, texcat, TheRampage, Wavemode, WhemeStar,

???

[Creature]

forgot to bold TheRampage's name