Mini 2018 - American Presidents Mafia (Game Over)

[northsidegal]

VOTE: momrangal

That's a decent vote, but you should join me on Stun!

why's that

[Nauci]

Woah I didn't notice NSG was in here

HEY! I hear you've become quite a formidable player!

[Nauci]

My reads are mostly not enough data.

The strongest page 5 reads I have are that shosh/skitter are probably the same alignment, and that said alignment is town. Correcting for misconceptions by someone else about someone else feels town motivated to me because scum would just sit back and let the confusion do its thing.

I feel not great about Math thus far, and that I'm going to really struggle to read Keyser

Serious vote though, VOTE: Gamma Emerald for 100% 4/4 fluff posting

[Nauci]

P.S. Where is Mr. Sanders

[northsidegal]

Woah I didn't notice NSG was in here

HEY! I hear you've become quite a formidable player!

[Shoshin]

Serious vote though, VOTE: Gamma Emerald for 100% 4/4 fluff posting

Too easy. What don't you like about Math? And what're your thoughts on Stun?

[northsidegal]

VOTE: momrangal

That's a decent vote, but you should join me on Stun!

why's that

[Shoshin]

Help us nab a scumbag?

[Shoshin]

I'm not quite ready to say why you should vote Stun but you should. Irrelephant has the idea.

[stungun0404]

what are your thoughts on me, shoshin? you never provided them.

catching up as is with the other questions, but do address your feeling on me before asking and even inciting others to do so. otherwise, it just looks like you are trying to take advantage of a wagon forming on a me, which i feel only a scumplayer would have incentive to do. looks like you are doing the utmost in an attempt to “look town” right now

besides, i voted nauci, but i did not incite others to do the same.

@gemini:

What do you think of Shoshin / their interactions so far @Stungun0404 and what made you vote Naucy?

i had a gut feeling naucy was being naughty. i wasn’t explicitly scumreading the slot per se, but nobody had voted for the slot yet and i couldn’t see a clear town motive peeking through their iso at their earlier content, so i laid a vote down there.

let me look into shoshin’s iso, though.

i will answer all other questions that were addressed to me momentarily.

[Nauci]

Serious vote though, VOTE: Gamma Emerald for 100% 4/4 fluff posting

Too easy. What don't you like about Math? And what're your thoughts on Stun?

Anyone not mentioned by name means I either null read their posts or null read their lack of posts.

My gut read on Math is that he hasn't been as towny as he could be thus far.

[Irrelephant11]

Feeling currently like Shoshin/Stungun/math has at most one mafiosa. Keyser/stungun/skitter could have as many as THREE but probably not more than like 1.5.

Invis, nsg, Bernie, Mom, I think I want you four to vote or provide a read now. Not sure if there’s someone else. ...If you’re a player reading this like “oh shiz I haven’t posted much he probably means me” then I DO. I DO mean you.

[Shoshin]

Irrelephant, any thoughts on Stun's 109?

[Mathdino]

My gut read on Math is that he hasn't been as towny as he could be thus far.

It's hard to act towny when Math's rapping like a clown, he
Doesn't have a bounty on his head so he's not frowny
Quite yet. But I bet that my towncred will set in
Don't be frettin I ain't sweatin til this game gets upsettin
So call me Tony cuz there's a Stark difference between scummy-me and townie
Im just tryna survive to the end of the film like Robert Downey...
Junior

[stungun0404]

i’m still getting settled into this game, sorry folks. my town colors will show soon; didn’t expect this game to move as rapidly as it has.

Hey Skitter, why are you defending Math? Do you think he's town for that opening?

Math's proposal obviously wasn't "serious," it's RVS, but that doesn't change the fact that his suggestion was pro-scum and that made it a decent place to vote to get discussion going.

I'm not sure what to make of Skitter's response. I find it a bit scummy that he'd jump on the obvious while refusing to admit that his comment defended Math. And his hostility towards my desire to build a wagon instead of splitting votes is odd.

Serious vote though, VOTE: Gamma Emerald for 100% 4/4 fluff posting

Too easy. What don't you like about Math? And what're your thoughts on Stun?

I don’t like the transition here at all; shoshin goes from obsessing over skitter’s townread of mathdino to later asking what there isn’t to like about mathdino’s play; it seems like a very strange transition to make in a matter of hours with no explicit townread or townle on mathdino for the slot, so this makes its way onto my scumdar. These questions seem like their fishing for scummy responses to take advantage of

[Mathdino]

I could have made that better but I ain't hung up on every letter

[GeminiTwin12]

I'm not quite ready to say why you should vote Stun but you should. Irrelephant has the idea.

Can either of you (Shoshin, Irrelephant) provide a bit more insight than just feelings? What is it about their play, their posts that makes you feel they're scum?

besides, i voted nauci, but i did not incite others to do the same.

@gemini:

What do you think of Shoshin / their interactions so far @Stungun0404 and what made you vote Naucy?

i had a gut feeling naucy was being naughty. i wasn’t explicitly scumreading the slot per se, but nobody had voted for the slot yet and i couldn’t see a clear town motive peeking through their iso at their earlier content, so i laid a vote down there.

let me look into shoshin’s iso, though.

i will answer all other questions that were addressed to me momentarily.

Same question applies here, is there anything about their play, lackthereof that caught your attention, you did say you weren't explicitly scumreading them but you don't see a town motive. - I feel like it would have been easier for scum!You or anyone to just sheep a vote somewhere than seemingly grasp at straws with your voteplacement.

[Bernie Sanders]

mathdino you MFer I had to stop myself from actually getting into this bernie bro shit mad bait I was flooding tabs with news articles open and was going to get into polls and shit

I just finish binge watching the Wire s4 and you slap me right across the face with this where I least expect it

forget the game for a moment I WILL get you back on this one day somehow

[GeminiTwin12]

Sidenote, Math you're killing me with the rhymes lmao

[Shoshin]

I don’t like the transition here at all; shoshin goes from obsessing over skitter’s townread of mathdino to later asking what there isn’t to like about mathdino’s play; it seems like a very strange transition to make in a matter of hours with no explicit townread or townle on mathdino for the slot, so this makes its way onto my scumdar. These questions seem like their fishing for scummy responses to take advantage of

Skitter didn't townread Math. And I didn't really "obsess" over anything. So that's a pretty strange way to read the game.

I asked Skitter some questions and then I asked Naucy some questions. What's the "strange transition"?

[Nauci]

mathdino you MFer I had to stop myself from actually getting into this bernie bro shit mad bait I was flooding tabs with news articles open and was going to get into polls and shit

I just finish binge watching the Wire s4 and you slap me right across the face with this where I least expect it

forget the game for a moment I WILL get you back on this one day somehow

meet me in the parking lot

lets debate nuclear energy and education financing

[Nauci]

I don’t like the transition here at all; shoshin goes from obsessing over skitter’s townread of mathdino to later asking what there isn’t to like about mathdino’s play; it seems like a very strange transition to make in a matter of hours with no explicit townread or townle on mathdino for the slot, so this makes its way onto my scumdar. These questions seem like their fishing for scummy responses to take advantage of

Skitter didn't townread Math. And I didn't really "obsess" over anything. So that's a pretty strange way to read the game.

I asked Skitter some questions and then I asked Naucy some questions. What's the "strange transition"?

You're a pretty aggro player so anything you dig into looks like (to hyperbolize) "obsessing"

Also pls my username is Nauci

[stungun0404]

he was defending him, so i take it that it was something of a townread or sth. i didn’t feel like looking back, so i went off my memory

[Bernie Sanders]

skitter's better than shoshin from their exchange IMO

Re shoshin you said you had caught scum via rvs in comparable votes can you link/reference?

[stungun0404]

irrelephant: scum keyser making statements hypothesizing over t vs. s/ s vs. s this early on in the game regarding 2 players gets the pass through occam’s razor in my book, because i haven’t ever seen scum make statements like those in the rvs stage of a game; only town to my memory has made conclusions about both alignments that early on in the game.