Mini 2018 - American Presidents Mafia (Game Over)

[brassherald]

“He that is good for making excuses is seldom good for anything else.”

Votecount 1.2

stungun0404(2)

~ Shoshin(31), Irrelephant11(5)

Momrangal(2)

~ Invisibility(11), northsidegal(4)

Invisibility(2)

~ Momrangal(4), Bernie Sanders(10)

Shoshin(1)

~ skitter30(7)

Gamma Emerald(1)

~ Nauci(15)

Bernie Sanders(1)

~ Mathdino(17)


Not Voting (4): GeminiTwin12(4), stungun0404(12), Keyser Söze(16), Gamma Emerald(5)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-07-02 17:10:00)

MOD REMINDERS

Skitter30 is VLA

[Nauci]

Hey I'll have you know that I am both extremely excellent at excuses

And also at actually doing things

...Occasionally...

When I'm not preoccupied with being really good at the first thing

Okay after a quick re-skim I'm feeling not good about how easily pushed back Stun was. Vote on me without follow up justification, even highlighting not asking anyone else to do so, and then very quick unvote from just being asked why. I mean it's relatively unimportant here that the vote was even on me vs anyone else because not much substance besides "didn't see town motivation" was ever discussed. The debacle is telling about Stun though, IMO.

Then again, I'm used to inexperienced scum who are shy, and I'm afraid there's plenty of experienced players here with plenty of gut.

Still feel pretty okay with Skitter, more null about Shoshin (who has a relatively aggressive style that I have a hard time reading because I have a slight emotional reaction to it).

Math I dislike PRs because they make it easier to obfuscate and I was hoping that wouldn't be the case but I very much dislike that you even outright said it'll get in the way. Rhyme all you want but don't use it as some shield to dodge requests for real content.

My vote stays until GE posts more, because that collection of posts is skirting under the radar pretty hard, even compared to other less noisy posters.

For some reason I can't seem to read momrangal/invis/Gemini posts and actually retain any of the info. I've read the game twice and can barely remember the gist of their posts and will have to read again. Maybe I should be asleep at 5 AM and try again later...

Side note, it's quite refreshing to go this many pages without setup speculation posts.

[Keyser Söze]

Yep, Gamma has to Hulk out (with only one game-solving related post so far).

[Keyser Söze]

Actually, yeah, Stun’s vote and unvote (coinciding with the growing suspicion on his own slot) is a good place to start.
Gonna re-read his/her posts.

[Keyser Söze]

Hmm... still liking Stun ladies and gents:

- I usually don't like early/easy town reads but Stun feels so certain and won over by my early posts. Why does scum-Stun clear me so early (and later supporting the strength of this town read, instead of stepping down from it after it being flagged). I feel it's too soon for an early-pocket-scum-strategy attempt.

- potentially legit defensiveness and paranoia shown by Stun in post 109, RE:Shoshin.

- Re-reading Shoshin's posts and revising his stance isn't scum-indicative.

- found something I'd place in the dislike category:

"i’m still getting settled into this game, sorry folks"
" you should at least wait one full day before pushing a case against me for contrast like that!"

Smells like PoE. I'm a sucker for PoE so less of that please.

- "i’m thinking scum is lurking beyond your aggressive act. the way you are playing would be awfully gutsy for scum"
I concur with this observation, RE: Shoshin.


Don't understand the unvote on Nauci, but Stun has promised catchup and vote later today.

[Invisibility]

VOTE: momrangal

That's a decent vote, but you should join me on Stun!

AAAAAGH

also im reading up

[Invisibility]

irrelephant: scum keyser making statements hypothesizing over t vs. s/ s vs. s this early on in the game regarding 2 players gets the pass through occam’s razor in my book, because i haven’t ever seen scum make statements like those in the rvs stage of a game; only town to my memory has made conclusions about both alignments that early on in the game.

scum could easy make these statements

[Invisibility]

that latter referring to my man the blue pokemon :)

no

[Invisibility]

i'm feeling like Shosh is probs town
i'm not scumreading stungun for the "weird transition" thing because i could see it as a misunderstanding

[Invisibility]

i'm going to reread and try to absorb everything before placing a vote

[Invisibility]

I am kinda excited to play with invisibility fwiw

awww thanks

[Invisibility]

welp i guess i'll have to put that on hold because i have to go bye

[Keyser Söze]

Invisibility: one of the highest post counts but I still have no real conviction in the purity of his presidential campaign.

[Momrangal]

Momrangal, any thoughts on players other than Invis?

Of course I do!

Invis, nsg, Bernie, Mom, I think I want you four to vote or provide a read now.

Already done, have you actually been reading or just skimming? I mean I have a slot I am hard pushing. Thought on invisibility?

Zzz

This is great and all but let's all build a wagon on actual scum

VOTE: invisible

Fishing for reactions... or a late RVS entry? Just trying to place this vote.

It's a srs vote, with srs reasons but why can't it also be made for garnering reactions?

Momrangel - you chose to gloss over the Shos-Skit-Mathdino early melodrama with “zzz”, which I found interesting. Did you feel that nothing alignment indicative was to be found there?

Maybe. Not taking active part in it =/=ignoring it. It's generally non indicative but the fact that its still being talked about now is far more interesting than it was then

[Keyser Söze]

@Momrangel - in my head we’d exited RVS (as early as page 1 via Shoshin’s nose-dive and aggressive biting). Thus, I was intrigued by your vote (which I originally read as random, therefore, not up to speed) but then realised it was a ‘genuine’ vote (RE: invisible’s content).


Aye, yes, alot of opinions have stemmed from those early interactions, so I was expecting your view of them too.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yep, Gamma has to Hulk out (with only one game-solving related post so far).

LOL pls
I'm honestly kinda wanting to kick back this game ngl, maybe I'll get solvy later but for now I just wanna smell the roses. It's my first full game back ya know.
Keyser does kinda strike me as town though, based on what he's taking note of

[Nauci]

that latter referring to my man the blue pokemon

Obligatory "um, actually, that's a neopet"

[Invisibility]

ok, what makes invis different, than, say, nauci?

I don't know if it's fair to classify him as active lurking hours into the game when he has more game-related content than many players.

You think he has game related content?

They are different because one has a far more serious tone than the other. One has a more tryhard feel than the other and one is clearly trying to seem more useful than the other.

The definition of active lurking is basically posting empty posts trying to look like you're making content when you aren't

hi can you pull out a sentence and explain why its tryhard thanks

[Invisibility]

wait actually im feeling kinda paranoid and i dont think im ready to townread shosh

[Invisibility]

i'm feeling most nervous about this
VOTE: GeminiTwin12
3/4 of her posts are rehashes/easy to make
i would like to see more from her

[stungun0404]

VOTE: Northsidegal. she blew right past me and the rest of town as scum in lynchpin mafia by largely lurking/staying in the background. i don’t reckon i want to see a repeat of that. i’d like to see her give some early gamereads. her content hasn’t really had much substance so far

questions coming for all

[Irrelephant11]

Hot take: Keyser hasn’t done anything towny yet

@mom (its okay if I call you Mom right), my bad, I kinda forgot about your vote. Still though your posting isn’t much more impressive than Invisibility’s. I’d give everyone the weekend to check in before I’m pushing them for lurking *shrug*

[Irrelephant11]

I’m kinda feeling worse on stun/Nauci/Mom/invis for their “lynch the lurker” votes like 48 hours into a game on the weekend

[Bernie Sanders]

wait actually im feeling kinda paranoid and i dont think im ready to townread shosh

can you go into this

[Bernie Sanders]

tbh invis judgments arent bad but he reads storytelling-y and kinda self conscious