the problem i have here is it reads like you are trying to beget a scummy response, and town should never ever have any incentive to do that.In post 24, platfleece wrote:What do you have to say in your defense Invisibility?
I've been thinking about this a lot. Intially I had some things that I somehow missed (like what RVS stood for? Random Vote Stage?) What does "scummed" mean? So many terms so fast!@Xander - you seem to be reading most things but have not provided your own thoughts. Surely you have had to have some reactions to Invis, Plat, or me?
I am trying to decide if this seems like Plat is pushing for information, or is defensive about being voted for. They don't really seem to be in danger of being lynched so being defensive is a bit odd from what I understand.@Teacher I still wanna know if you had an actual reason voting for me or if it was an RVS vote.
This post really unsettles me. It seems like a really big leap to be making. Is it common for new players to be scared off by being mafia, and then just leave instead of having to be hunted? It seems like a stretch to me. So, I am definely eyeing Plat@Teacher:
Random possibly Newbish thought, with the Daskter newbie slot being replaced twice now, how likely do you guys think the slot itself is scummy?
This is a statement that is odd to me as well. The town better get it's stuff together? Not "we had better get our stuff together" or "we should work together". Is this indicative that you aren't town?This town better get its poop in a group.
On second readthrough of my post, this part might be confusing.In post 106, platfleece wrote:Teacher also said that he that he was both pressuring me AND looking for a bandwagon follower.
Im going to very blatantly dodge your question, which I hope was just bait. In a game where your slot hadnt talked at all, Pickles still hasnt, and Iso/Winged/Xander have 18 posts including RVS between them, it is impossible to create teams. Also, I have a tendency to build elaborate theories pre-D1 flips, every single one of which has been proven wrong, so now try to hold my associational hunting for D2+ once I have info from flip(s) and can do VCA (vote count analysis).In post 99, stungun0404 wrote:@teacher, as invisibility could probably attest to, i am definitely the type of player that likes to drive discussion forward. because you seem like a very analytically adept player, i’ll ask you: if you had to make an early crack at possible scum partners, who would they be?
Definitely feel free to raise this kind of stuff, as that is part of the purpose of a newb game. Here is a glossary.In post 105, Xander wrote:So many terms so fast!
No. I take your point on the semantics of it, but can tell you in my seven games of online mafia (four? here) I have not seen a scumslip that obvious, so in general would view the language as NAI (non-alignment indicative). I think I chose to distance myself from town in that post because I was getting really frustrated at the lack of posting, but also didnt focus on the language because I was more giddy like a 5 year old to use the expression "in a group."In post 105, Xander wrote:Is this indicative that you aren't town?
i've seen early wagons can actually help jumpstart discussion, provided they don't end with a lycnhIn post 106, platfleece wrote: In my experience with Mafia games, a bandwagon to shut off discussion early and mislynch someone is very much a Mafia-sided play. Less time for Town to talk, less information being gathered. eager wagon hoppers usually ping my radar, so I wanted to know if teacher had a legitimately good reason of voting me with that timing.
elaborate the invis townread. There is nothing memorable at all from his play afaikIn post 97, stungun0404 wrote:hello. is it me you’re looking for?
i townread invisibility already (his gameplay has a townfeel to it), as well as teacher who seems to have a town motive to the way he’s pushing the game forward.
as for scum, feeling platfleece as a possibility, but i need to investigate further before i would vote them. i think they already have a few votes.
for now, i’ll VOTE: isolato, would like to see more from their slot, just like several others playing. i realize my slot has been mia, but i can make up for it, so hakuna matata!
Not really.In post 98, stungun0404 wrote:after iso’ing everyone, a few questions to get us rolling. i have quite a bit of experience myself, so i’m not a newbie, but wanted to find the scum among the newbies to enhance my analytical skills.
@picklepaige: in 12, you mention being excited about playing mafia. however, you haven’t appeared for 5 days now. where’s that excitement now? please don’t tell me it’s in the scum pt (unless you’re scum of course, then i’ll take it)!
@espeonage, do you have any early scumreads? see no mention of scumreads in your posts so far.
@xander, townreads are used to help eliminate possible scum suspects, so they are vital in the long run so you can zero in on particular players being scum. basically, you look for something that suggests that player a is pushing forward a town perspective, or for details that suggest player a is guilt-free. A lot of the time I use townreads to their maximum advantage to limit my potential lynch pool. Do you see anything in this thread that suggests that a certain player is pushing forward a town (guilt free/not “trying to be town”, but rather being it) perspective?