Labyrinth Mafia (Endgame)

[Commander Shepard]

Look at 1907. She protects Random. And Angel's version of scumhunting is protecting the scum. So, yes. I'd say she has been scumhunting.

That isn’t protecting or hunting.

That is just lazy.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Assume AA9 is town. (I disagree) Has AA9 made any recent posts towards scumhunting?

Nope. What do you think of Sho’s role pm theory re: Angel? What possible town role makes it your wincon to push the hardclaimed cop. derail an obvscum lynch and push the arguable IC who was 99.99% cleared by them?

[Reality Check]

Reality, if it's better the role remains hidden, stop fishing.

I know how to handle PRs

Good to know.

Then go find the meat of my sandwich of what I have been saying.

Because you keep looking at bread. Find the other head if you have to.

I say things without saying them like MathBlade does.

Also Shoshin if around in lylo is policy. But I am 95% sure they won’t be. They are town.

so you're confirming that you're very likely the slot I'm looking for?

[Commander Shepard]

Reality, if it's better the role remains hidden, stop fishing.

I know how to handle PRs

Good to know.

Then go find the meat of my sandwich of what I have been saying.

Because you keep looking at bread. Find the other head if you have to.

I say things without saying them like MathBlade does.

Also Shoshin if around in lylo is policy. But I am 95% sure they won’t be. They are town.

so you're confirming that you're very likely the slot I'm looking for?

Assuming you’re speaking the way I think you are probably. My role is definitely rare and leaves no room for misinterpretation.

[Commander Shepard]

Assume AA9 is town. (I disagree) Has AA9 made any recent posts towards scumhunting?

Nope. What do you think of Sho’s role pm theory re: Angel? What possible town role makes it your wincon to push the hardclaimed cop. derail an obvscum lynch and push the arguable IC who was 99.99% cleared by them?

I think unless they are coached by MathBlade they are scum.

I have seen Math moonlogic make games bad.

I don’t know if a single role that makes a cop or an IC a good lynch.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Look at 1907. She protects Random.

And Angel's version of scumhunting is protecting the scum.

So, yes. I'd say she has been scumhunting.

That isn’t protecting or hunting.

That is just lazy.

What @ the bolded?

So, if I understand you correctly here Shoshin, are you saying that by pushing Nico and me, she was doing the exact opposite of xhat she wanted? Like pushing us because she knows we’re town and has to do the exact opposite? Is this like an insane cop or something?

[Shoshin]

Look at 1907. She protects Random.

And Angel's version of scumhunting is protecting the scum.

So, yes. I'd say she has been scumhunting.

That isn’t protecting or hunting.

That is just lazy.

What @ the bolded?

So, if I understand you correctly here Shoshin, are you saying that by pushing Nico and me, she was doing the exact opposite of xhat she wanted? Like pushing us because she knows we’re town and has to do the exact opposite? Is this like an insane cop or something?

This is what I'm suggesting. She said she's "negative utility" so it's not as implausible as it might sound. Reread her posts under the assumption that she has to attack obvious townies and protect the scum and suddenly it all makes perfect sense. Then look at what she said at the end of D2 - that it's her role to "PROTECT" certain players and Creature is one of them.

[Reality Check]

okay, cool

here's your followup:

I did something last night but I dunno if it's what you're referring to, Reality. So that's a pretty pointless question to ask me.

follow up:

is it the type of role that functions immediately?

I mean is it the type of role that resolves at the end of the night

do you understand why I asked this question next?

[Commander Shepard]

okay, cool

here's your followup:

I did something last night but I dunno if it's what you're referring to, Reality. So that's a pretty pointless question to ask me.

follow up:

is it the type of role that functions immediately?

I mean is it the type of role that resolves at the end of the night

do you understand why I asked this question next?

I do. However I am not interested in elaborating on why I do when a lot of my posts responding to you explain why.

[Shoshin]

I am first

I AM ROLLED THE WEIRDEST ROLE EVER. THIS GAME IS A DOOMED.

Weird role, like having to protect scum and attack town.

VOTE: Reality Check

I love that kitty!!!!


I HAVE INFORMATION WHICH I CANT REVEAL.. ITS GOING TO HURT THE GAME.

Can't reveal something but it's going to hurt things...

YOU ARE FRAGILE

GOT IT.
REDIRECTING TO NICO MAKES YOU SCUM.

Well this town didn't want to so I needed the attention.


I REALLY CANT STOP THE LYNCH, IT IS MY JOB TO PROTECT PEOPLE HERE!!!

Who is AA9 protecting? Creature. Or in other words, Scum. But like she said earlier in the game, she can't say that's what she's doing.

ARCANGEL9 PLEASE STOP YOU ARE MAKING READING UNFUN.

FINE I WAS JUST TROLLING AND TRIPPING ON YOU ANYWAY!!

JOKES APART... TROLLING IN THE GAME IS MY WIN CONDITION!!

NOW YOU ALL KNOW MY SECRET.

She's trolling. Cool.

You know I’m not scum, you’re just trying to redirect your mislynch onto me, to stop me from reporting you. No way would you do this as town.

So I am scum and i am dragging all this attention to me? Just like that?

You got some great scum hunting skills.











TROLL TROLL TROLL AND THATS HOW I HELP THE TOWN.

Trolling is how she helps town win because by trolling people won't take her seriously enough to protect scum and lynch town.

This is how a townie uses a fucked up negative utility where she's forced to protect scum and attack town.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Assume AA9 is town. (I disagree) Has AA9 made any recent posts towards scumhunting?

Nope. What do you think of Sho’s role pm theory re: Angel? What possible town role makes it your wincon to push the hardclaimed cop. derail an obvscum lynch and push the arguable IC who was 99.99% cleared by them?

I think unless they are coached by MathBlade they are scum.

I have seen Math moonlogic make games bad.

I don’t know if a single role that makes a cop or an IC a good lynch.

Yeah, it’s certainly a bizarre theory. If I got stuck with a role like that - assuming such a role even existed - I’d either beg to be lynched or replace out.

At any case, how is it possibly harmful to town to resolve this slot?

[Commander Shepard]

Look at 1907. She protects Random.

And Angel's version of scumhunting is protecting the scum.

So, yes. I'd say she has been scumhunting.

That isn’t protecting or hunting.

That is just lazy.

What @ the bolded?

So, if I understand you correctly here Shoshin, are you saying that by pushing Nico and me, she was doing the exact opposite of xhat she wanted? Like pushing us because she knows we’re town and has to do the exact opposite? Is this like an insane cop or something?

This is what I'm suggesting. She said she's "negative utility" so it's not as implausible as it might sound. Reread her posts under the assumption that she has to attack obvious townies and protect the scum and suddenly it all makes perfect sense. Then look at what she said at the end of D2 - that it's her role to "PROTECT" certain players and Creature is one of them.

So we have a neg utility that doesn’t scum hunt and has to do things against town’s interest supposedly.

I am still behind threadwise but if AA9 hasn’t claimed and doesn’t explain they are eating rope. Because we eliminate someone who doesn’t hunt and we eliminate a neg utility. If they flip town then they learn not to do this shit. I am cool with eliminating how MathBlade says “scum with a town role PM” if that is the case. AA9 is probably just scum though.

[Reality Check]

okay, I think I have a decent idea of what's going on now if I'm reading your hints correctly

[Commander Shepard]

Awesome.

Do you understand why Shoshin is probably town then?

*looks at you with puppy dog eyes*

Be my special Turian friend. *sniff*

[Shoshin]

Shepard, why would scum do any of the things that AA9's doing?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Look at 1907. She protects Random.

And Angel's version of scumhunting is protecting the scum.

So, yes. I'd say she has been scumhunting.

That isn’t protecting or hunting.

That is just lazy.

What @ the bolded?

So, if I understand you correctly here Shoshin, are you saying that by pushing Nico and me, she was doing the exact opposite of xhat she wanted? Like pushing us because she knows we’re town and has to do the exact opposite? Is this like an insane cop or something?

This is what I'm suggesting. She said she's "negative utility" so it's not as implausible as it might sound. Reread her posts under the assumption that she has to attack obvious townies and protect the scum and suddenly it all makes perfect sense. Then look at what she said at the end of D2 - that it's her role to "PROTECT" certain players and Creature is one of them.

Okay but she initially called me obvwn and now the exact opposite of that. How does that fit your theory? She did sound really pissed at me though.

At any rate, I don’t read anything into her “why random” question either way.

[Reality Check]

yeah, I understand it now

I'll need to reorient myself from it, though

[Commander Shepard]

Shepard, why would scum do any of the things that AA9's doing?

1) It is noise
2) To try to save Creature
3) To avoid scumhunting
4) To fake emotions when they have none
5) To explain why something happened proscum and try not to be lynched for it.

And that is off the top of my head

[Reality Check]

Commander Shepherd
Nancy Drew 39
Reality Check
Shoshin

ArcAngel9
Chickadee
randomidget
Scioness Sajj
Taly
The Worst
WhemeStar

that's a good operational townblock to start from at least

idk maybe I'll follow up on this with another read through at some point

[Shoshin]

Nancy, look:

I'll do it.

VOTE: Creature

Is this hammer?

I HAVE POWER TO STOP THIS LYNCH. SHALL I DIVERT THIS ON NICO?

You aren’t going to get a hard-claimed investigative lynched but you can try to cause us to have yet another no lynch, which will cripple town.

I AM PROTECTING NICO DUMBO!!

She's saying the opposite of what she means. You can't read her posts in a normal way.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Look at 1907. She protects Random.

And Angel's version of scumhunting is protecting the scum.

So, yes. I'd say she has been scumhunting.

That isn’t protecting or hunting.

That is just lazy.

What @ the bolded?

So, if I understand you correctly here Shoshin, are you saying that by pushing Nico and me, she was doing the exact opposite of xhat she wanted? Like pushing us because she knows we’re town and has to do the exact opposite? Is this like an insane cop or something?

This is what I'm suggesting. She said she's "negative utility" so it's not as implausible as it might sound. Reread her posts under the assumption that she has to attack obvious townies and protect the scum and suddenly it all makes perfect sense. Then look at what she said at the end of D2 - that it's her role to "PROTECT" certain players and Creature is one of them.

So we have a neg utility that doesn’t scum hunt and has to do things against town’s interest supposedly.

I am still behind threadwise but if AA9 hasn’t claimed and doesn’t explain they are eating rope. Because we eliminate someone who doesn’t hunt and we eliminate a neg utility. If they flip town then they learn not to do this shit. I am cool with eliminating how

MathBlade says “scum with a town role PM”

if that is the case. AA9 is probably just scum though.

Can you please elaborate on the bolded? Shoshin’s Angel theory is the exact opposite of that. By Sho’s thery, she is townreading Chick, since she claimed to scumread TPF.

[Reality Check]

it means town that helps scum by being alive

[Nancy Drew 39]

Commander Shepherd
Nancy Drew 39
Reality Check
Shoshin

ArcAngel9
Chickadee
randomidget
Scioness Sajj
Taly
The Worst
WhemeStar

that's a good operational townblock to start from at least

idk maybe I'll follow up on this with another read through at some point

In the future please use bolded and darker colours. I couldn’t read this until I tried to suote it.

[Commander Shepard]

Commander Shepherd
Nancy Drew 39
Reality Check
Shoshin

ArcAngel9
Chickadee
randomidget
Scioness Sajj
Taly
The Worst
WhemeStar

that's a good operational townblock to start from at least

idk maybe I'll follow up on this with another read through at some point

I would put Shoshin a darker green than us. Mainly Shoshin is town because her flip will happen before mine. If she ever makes it to lylo she is policy.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Commander Shepherd
Nancy Drew 39
Reality Check
Shoshin

ArcAngel9
Chickadee
randomidget
Scioness Sajj
Taly
The Worst
WhemeStar

that's a good operational townblock to start from at least

idk maybe I'll follow up on this with another read through at some point

Why is the worst, second to last in your readslist? How is their Creature progression remotely scummy?