NY 213 - Game Over!

[osuka]

The second one is something that's hard to explain in words? but it should be obvious just from the gamestate, the lack of a clear PoE, and the fact that even if osuka was to be scum, he's just being bussed and there are likely 5 we don't know about. just seems blatantly obvious that this is a normal game and town aren't dominating.

Getting strong scum-vibes from you Ausuka. You're not trying to help or add to any town cohesion, you're just attempting to disrupt it.

so right now in this game i have a problem with my scumreads

usually whenever there is a problem, youre just not sure enough about who to vote for. in this case, however, the problem is that i'm convinced more than one of them is scum. case in point, above, one of the more offending posts ive seen in this thread so far

[osuka]

+ doesn't look like he's trying to set up good associatives either.

Teach me how u one can figure this out on day one w/ no flips. How would scum go about setting up good associatives?

By fighting and distancing with one another. Scum do this. He seems more concerned with lynching scum in general than making people look good with his flip.

VOTE: Ausuka
- Osuka and I have been all over eachother for a good part of the game.
- Ausuka supposedly scumreads me.

Read what's quoted and tell me how what Ausuka is saying makes any sense.

case in point 2.0

[Gamma Emerald]

So just pick one? Idk

[Almost50]

If both Osuka and Edo/Gamma are town slots then my reads are

really

all messed up

[Creature]

If both Osuka and Edo/Gamma are town slots then my reads are

really

all messed up

Uh oh...

[Andriod18]

Why does that mean he can't be scum?

Mostly because he's been made out to be a lot more scummy than he really is. I believe Jarjar's super defense play trying to play to survive comes from scum more than it does town posts like:

You are not on my town list nor are on anyone elses.

Poppycock!!

rtft

No ones hard defending you or convincing me otherwise including you!

Well no shit no one's hard defending me. How tf does that have anything to do w/ ur read on me?

Like are u basically saying that you're voting me cuz it's easiest?

Like isn't that some straight ass backwards thinking?

Scum are always harder to lynch than town because they have people on their side.

The fact that no one is hard defending me should lead Vax to townread me, not scumread me.

not necessarily my guy. maybe in a newbie but definitely not here

nice wifom though

Are you saying that nobody hard-defending someone on day 1 is reason to scum read them?

Nice chainsaw though.

i never said that.

nice misrep though

No but u implied it. ANd if u werent implying it then what is the point of saying it?

I'm calling out Vax because his reason for voting me is terrible. He said that the fact that nobody is defending me is a his reason for voting me.

Do you think that is a bad reason or not?

+ doesn't look like he's trying to set up good associatives either.

Teach me how u one can figure this out on day one w/ no flips. How would scum go about setting up good associatives?

By fighting and distancing with one another. Scum do this. He seems more concerned with lynching scum in general than making people look good with his flip.

VOTE: Ausuka
- Osuka and I have been all over eachother for a good part of the game.
- Ausuka supposedly scumreads me.

Read what's quoted and tell me how what Ausuka is saying makes any sense.

Are over defensive with bad shade throwing. He appears to care more about making sure he looks good
VOTE: Jarjar drinks

[JarJarDrinks]

What exactly is over defensive?

[osuka]

So just pick one? Idk

well i did

[Andriod18]

What exactly is over defensive?

I think the fact you react so negatively to people speaking bad of you is quite telling. You seem to care way too much about your looks this game and that comes from scum more than town.

[JarJarDrinks]

What exactly is over defensive?

I think the fact you react so negatively to people speaking bad of you is quite telling. You seem to care way too much about your looks this game and that comes from scum more than town.

I heard you the first time. What posts specifically?

[JarJarDrinks]

Like you quoted 2 posts of mine when u voted. Are you saying I'm being defensive there?

Be more specific.

[JarJarDrinks]

osuka's flip would interest me but I don't think it'd flip scum mostly because he's been a topic of the game for the whole thing.

Why does that mean he can't be scum?

Mostly because he's been made out to be a lot more scummy than he really is.

What does him being "made out to be a lot more scummy than he really is" have to do with him being a topic of the game for so long?

You didnt say U dont think it'll flip scum cuz u dont like any of the scum points against him. You said that the reason is because "he's been a topic of the game for the whole thing".

791 sounds like straight bullshit.

[Ircher]

Day 1 VC #20

Performer (1) - EspeciallyTheLies (515)
Almost50 (0) -
Golden Robster (1) - Vaxkiller (678)
Pine (0) -
Creature (0) -
Kublai Khan (0) -
Hopkirk (0) -

Edosurist

Gamma Emerald (1) - Lovebird (259)
Ausuka (2) - Scioness Sajj (406), JarJarDrinks (842)
Lalendra (0) -
Lovebird (0) -
JarJarDrinks (3) - Myloninja13 (326), WhemeStar (797), Andriod18 (855)

Osuka (8) - Dunnstral (77), Texcat, Pine (176), Almost50 (390), Performer (623), TheRampage (681), Hopkirk (696), Kublai Khan (725)

Andriod18 (0) -
Texcat (1) - ArcAngel9 (604)
ArcAngel9 (0) -
Vaxkiller (2) - Golden Robster (602), Gamma Emerald (710)
Wavemode (0) -
TheRampage (3) - Ausuka (743), Osuka (771), Creature (813)
Myloninja13 (0) -
Scioness Sajj (0) -
Not Voting (3) - Flavor Leaf, Lalendra (559), Wavemode (838)

Lynch Threshold

During day 1, it takes 13 votes to lynch a player.

Deadline

Day 1 ends on June 30, 2018 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2018-06-30 20:00:00).

Moderator Notes

EspeciallyTheLies is V/LA for an indefinite time.
Prodded Lovebird. They have (expired on 2018-06-24 09:40:11) to respond in-thread.
If you notice any mistakes, please point them out. (That includes looking at the voting history.)

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Day 1

Dunnstral: Osuka (77)
Srceenplay (0): (Null)
Peformer: Osuka (623)
Joral (0): (Null)
Almost50: Hopkirk (97) --> Edosurist (226) --> Osuka (390)
Fumuki (0): (Null)
Golden Robster: Almost50 (177) --> Wavemode (183) --> Osuka (236) --> Ausuka (317) --> JarJarDrinks (319) --> (Null) (546) --> Vaxkiller (602)
Pine: Osuka (176)
Creature: Performer (385) --> Myloninja13 (720) --> TheRampage (813)
Kublai Khan: Osuka (76) --> Almost50 (122) --> Scioness Sajj (388) --> JarJarDrinks (536) --> Osuka (725)
WhemeStar: Lalendra (234) --> JarJarDrinks (797)
Hopkirk: Osuka (90) --> Lalendra (279) --> Osuka (696)
Edosurist: Texcat (84) --> Almost50 (222)
Gamma Emerald: Vaxkiller (710)
Ausuka: JarJarDrinks (89) --> Creature (104) --> Myloninja13 (429) --> (Null) (742) --> TheRampage (743)
Lalendra: Almost50 (209) --> (Null) (559)
EspeciallyTheLies: Almost50 (83) --> Performer (515)
Lovebird: Edosurist (259)
JarJarDrinks: Osuka (85) --> Almost50 (114) --> Charles510 (186) --> Edosurist (231) --> Osuka (535) --> Ausuka (842)
Osuka: Wavemode (80) --> JarJarDrinks (124) --> ArcAngel9 (229) --> Pine (332) --> JarJarDrinks (353) --> Performer (769) --> TheRampage (771)
Texcat: Osuka (79)
Andriod18: Kublai Khan (190) --> Lovebird (290) --> JarJarDrinks (855)
ArcAngel9: Texcat (81) --> TheRampage (223) --> Texcat (604)
Charles510 (2): JarJarDrinks (87) --> (Null) (310)
Vaxkiller: JarJarDrinks (363) --> Scioness Sajj (389) --> Andriod18 (437) --> JarJarDrinks (532) --> Golden Robster (678)
Wavemode: Texcat (82) --> Charles510 (131) --> (Null) (838)
TheRampage: Creature (100) --> (Null) (509) --> Osuka (681)
Myloninja13: Edosurist (233) --> JarJarDrinks (326)
Scioness Sajj: Ausuka (406)

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Pre-Game

Dunnstral (2): Texcat (9) --> Pine (43)
Srceenplay (1): Andriod18 (62)
Pine (1): Osuka (16)
Kublai Khan (1): Pine (34)
Hopkirk (1): Osuka (66)
Edosurist (1): Pine (42)
Osuka (2): Pine (28) --> Wavemode (33)
Texcat (1): Pine (44)
Wavemode (1): Osuka (31)

[osuka]

osuka's flip would interest me but I don't think it'd flip scum mostly because he's been a topic of the game for the whole thing.

Why does that mean he can't be scum?

Mostly because he's been made out to be a lot more scummy than he really is.

What does him being "made out to be a lot more scummy than he really is" have to do with him being a topic of the game for so long?

You didnt say U dont think it'll flip scum cuz u dont like any of the scum points against him. You said that the reason is because "he's been a topic of the game for the whole thing".

791 sounds like straight bullshit.

this post is stupid

i've been the topic of the game for as long as i have

because

youve made bullshit points and got a wagon going

[JarJarDrinks]

osuka's flip would interest me but I don't think it'd flip scum mostly because he's been a topic of the game for the whole thing.

Why does that mean he can't be scum?

Mostly because he's been made out to be a lot more scummy than he really is.

What does him being "made out to be a lot more scummy than he really is" have to do with him being a topic of the game for so long?

You didnt say U dont think it'll flip scum cuz u dont like any of the scum points against him. You said that the reason is because "he's been a topic of the game for the whole thing".

791 sounds like straight bullshit.

this post is stupid

i've been the topic of the game for as long as i have

because

youve made bullshit points and got a wagon going

I mean u've had 10 people on ur wagon, how bad could the points have been?

Regardless how does that have to do w what I'm saying? Why would someone being a "topic of the game" have anything to do with how they're gonna flip?

[Ircher]

Prodding Scioness Sajj (2d 19h). They have (expired on 2018-06-26 04:35:00) to respond in-thread..
Seeking a replacement for Lovebird who has failed to pick up their prod. If they post before I find a replacement, they may keep their slot.

Edit: Added Rule #11: "Please note that players are expected to do more than the bare minimum as outlined by these prodding rules. As stated in rule #10 in this section, I reserve the right to warn and/or replace players whom I believe are exploiting loopholes in the activity rules, or are otherwise not treating the game as the commitment they signed up for." to the ruleset in the activity section.

Edit2: Just going to put as a disclaimer that this rule change is not directed at any particular individual but rather the game as a whole.

[wavemode]

i feel personally attacked

[wavemode]

also, VOTE: osuka

[osuka]

you should feel personally attacked, given the quality and quantity of the content youve been putting out so far

[Hopkirk]

Need to read gamma v osuka in depth when I have computer access.
Rampage isn't bad yet.
Osuka reads is pretty meh. Wagon looks ok, so I'll probably look at people on it to decide if it looks scum driven.
Will respond to stuff when I can type easily.

[Scioness Sajj]

vla till 2nd

sorry for the inactivity, i will start catching up right now and try to keep up.

[Scioness Sajj]

@Scion: why is Lalandra in your towns.

she talked about someone (creature?) with somebody and it was towny

[Scioness Sajj]

Spoiler: Love bird

Lovebird is my most confident scumread for the following posts.

Screenplay and Creature confirmed but not posted.

This post feels like shade for no reason it's not needed why did they ask this 'they wanted to point it out'

This is very unlike your tone in other games we've played and I'm not sure if you're just trying something new or if you're really as scummy as you're making yourself sound, and that's almost impossible to believe but as of yet I have no other explanation

I think Lalendra is town

UNVOTE:

Sorry Ircher and everybody. 25 players and 13 pages already. Too much for me to keep up with and post any kind of intelligent analysis.

Ircher asked me to sign up as a favor and I did. There's a reason I don't play mafia. I am no good at mafia and I don't really enjoy it. I'll be over in the mish mash forum.

Please go ahead and replace me out.

this reads to me as someone that didnt want to roll scum but did.

This is towny.

Posts like the 2 above are very lazy and feel like posting just for the sake of posting. I'd love for a lovebird wagon to start to get the pressure on them.
(Not to mention the post above isn't even towny in fact it's quite bad.)

Spoiler: A50

This was mentioned in the queue thread, but I shall mention it again here to ensure that everyone is aware and so that everyone can find this information easily.

This game is confirmed to contain solely town-aligned players and mafia-aligned players. In other words, there are no Werewolves, there are no Serial Killers, and there are no second Mafia groups.

Btw, I claim

Survivor

. Ircher forgot to explicitly announce there are none of those (it's implied, but not explicitly stated), so I'd like to claim it now to prevent him from announcing it later.

Also, I'm Ascetic Hider with 1-shot of BP/PGO on odd nights. In even nights I'm a compulsive Commuter. You simply can't touch me.

I'm gonna follow Khan here.
VOTE: Almost50

FINALLY! The "I'm gonna follow Khan here." soft-clears KK and implicates Edo. It's almost like he's saying he knows I'm town and is already blaming it on KK. Bad bad vote here.

VOTE: Edosurist

My fellow townies, follow me. Are you ready to lynch a mafioso?

I assume the survivor claim was fake and leading into this second post feels really towny coming from A50. He wanted reactions and he's leading with them i'm confident in town A50.

I already said I townread Lalendra.

this post feels fake to me but I can't really explain it better. Artificial is a better word I guess.

[Scioness Sajj]

ETL can be town for stuff on p25

[Scioness Sajj]

/confirm

hardclaim mafia rolecop

/confirm

hardclaim mafia rolecop

sory

***regular rolecop

VOTE: wavemode

/confirm

osuka and ausuka...?

hmmmm, it's confusing but not THAT confusing

if i got a nickel for every time i was called 'asuka' on here, i could probably make a job out of it

Thank you everyone, very cool!

VOTE: wavemode
because last time we played together you were scum and I’m pretty sure you made it to end game

These are the most suspicious posts I noticed from an osuka ISO, when looking at why he was the leading wagon. He even votes wavemode twice in a row. Votes wave and votes him again, despite already voting him. None of this makes sense if osuka is town.
VOTE: osuka

how does it make sense for scum osuka?