Mini 2018 - American Presidents Mafia (Game Over)

[Keyser Söze]

I predict another replace out in the next 48 hours.

[Mathdino]

also
"Regrettably I don't have time right now to look through ISOs"
*posts memes*

No ISOs on my phone, wait til I get home
Til then I'm just throwin my fans a good bone

[Bernie Sanders]

Keyser if you put your sus on me aside for the moment who do you think is scum?

[Bernie Sanders]

I'd normally assume still skitter but I'd have some trouble following that now

[skitter30]

Math's post where he agreed with my townread on Key was very townie in light of our interactions up to that point, particularly the "hate to admit" language. That emotion, "fuck, I can't believe I agree with this guy whose play I've just spent a few posts attacking," is pretty hard to fake and suggests that Math's read was genuine, not the result of an informed perspective. And his townread on Stun followed pretty naturally from the townread on Key. There's other things but those two are more than enough to townread Math.

I don't think that post about keyser exhibited strong emotion or is like hard for scum!him to fake even remotely.

[Mathdino]

Do the Math, read my past, scum can't last when they feel my wrath
They leave me alive to lead me down the wrong path
But they all regret it in the afterMath

This wasn't a meme, I answered in turn
Your old age is showing, I've got some concern
I've earned some good grace, real yous not as stern
I yearn to return the Bern to his urn

Discussion...







Adjourned.

[Keyser Söze]

Keyser if you put your sus on me aside for the moment who do you think is scum?

Can I answer this question when all the playerlist have posted.

Because right now, “think is scum” may not be the right label. ‘Not town reading’ is more fitting.

[Keyser Söze]

@Bernie Sanders - are you happy with the Worst’s reason for calling you “very town”?

[Bernie Sanders]

Yeah that's usually that's not other peoples take so I translate

[Bernie Sanders]

Mmm I feel like there's hidden subtext with me and TW here imo

We talked a bit previous to him surprise-replacing into this on like our game approaches and even a bit on our town/scumgames (like general tell kind of thing)

I didn't think he'd replace into this game but what I gave was more or less accurate and does fit IMO so my impression is he'd almost have to go against the grain to justify a scumread on me (I'd maybe even considering outing what I said but it'd be like super ultra memey now to say that like say why people scumreads me this game are towntells and stuff like that)

there is an element that if scum he kind of replaced into a bad spot and it'd maybe be more in his interests to try to get me onside or at very least not antagonise me (and it is possible to some extent it might even be working)
but again I'd more or less expect that read from town as well

of course that's assuming he knows my main which he really probably should but if not then now definitely

[Bernie Sanders]

*lotsa hidden

[Bernie Sanders]

The problem with TW is mostly on gemini but I havent really been impressed with his direction since replace though it is still pretty soon
we had to kind of fish the keysor vote reasoning out of him (eh) and mom pressurevote is kinda whatever and doesn't reveal much

[Irrelephant11]

@Bernie my townlean on you is fading fast, largely due to your really opaque writing. I don’t know whose alt you are, so sorry if this is a big ask and I’m being rude, but could you work on having grammar that makes things clearer? I think it would be pro-town to do so. Like I had to read your last post 6+ times before understanding it.

I saw it suggested somewhere I’m an alt; I’m not.

I liked Mom for pressuring invisibility, unless they’ve played together. As I understand Invis is easy to scumread off tone, so I like that Mom pressured the slot. Mom hasn’t done much else so the townread lasts for now

Bernie is getting harder to read so even though I want to keep him in my townreads it’s hard.

I know there’s more to respond to & say, but I’m on mobile so ttyl fellow presidentes

[Momrangal]

Weekend double shifts don't allow me to do much.

But here.

Wait @shoshin do you still believe that Math is scummy for what he suggested in his opening?

One example of one of his try hard posts.

And I could easily pick up a few more if I wanted, like the one right before that one.

All of his early posts reek of eagerness to look like he's doing something productive and meaningful while doing absolutely jackall.

He's sitting there looking pretty, playing it safe, and it looks like hes engaging with people but the questions are empty.

[Keyser Söze]

@Shoshin - now’s the time to share that irrefutable meta evidence for town-invisibility.

momrangel actually came back with a bang.

[Keyser Söze]

Look forward to your full catchup (looking at players beside invisibility)

[Shoshin]

Mom, none of the things you're pushing are AI for Invis. Why are you ignoring his meta?

[Shoshin]

@Shoshin - now’s the time to share that irrefutable meta evidence for town-invisibility.

His meta shows why none of the things people think are scummy are scummy for him. I suggest skimming his play in literally any game he's ever played.

[Shoshin]

momrangel actually came back with a bang.

What's the bang? 39 isn't even "try hard," so Mom's interpretation is a bit of a stretch. She's right that Invis has a seemingly-helpful-but-not-doing-much style but that's just how he plays.

[Keyser Söze]

What do you think of mom’s choice to fixate only on invisibility so far?

[brassherald]

"What are you staring at? Haven't you ever seen a great man before?"

Votecount 1.5

skitter30(2)

~ Keyser Söze(45), Irrelephant11(16)

Nauci(2)

~ Mathdino(40), Shoshin(62)

Momrangal(2)

~ northsidegal(4), the worst(37)

the worst(1)

~ Invisibility(26)

Shoshin(1)

~ skitter30(38)

northsidegal(1)

~ stungun0404(24)

Mathdino(1)

~ Bernie Sanders(66)

Invisibility(1)

~ Momrangal(6)

Gamma Emerald(1)

~ Nauci(17)


Not Voting (1): Gamma Emerald(24)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-07-02 17:10:00)

[Irrelephant11]

What do you think of mom’s choice to fixate only on invisibility so far?

This feels like a weird turn from “momrangel came back with a bang” (the post implies a town Mom and a push on Shoshin) to now, where you’re kinda asking town Shoshin to scumread Mom?

Really doesn’t feel like genuine sorting.

VOTE: Keyser

[stungun0404]

is anybody else down to pressure nsg?

@irrelephant, i don’t very much fancy a keyser vote atm with the way all the votes are currently split. he has done enough things that register as a townfeel to me to successfully place him off my d1 lynch list. list off more things that give you a scummy vibe from him, if you feel so inclined, however

[Irrelephant11]

Sure,

His 31, 88, 89, 210, and 414 feel overly performative.

he ignored my question in 91 while showing in his 144-147 that he’d read the whole game

That thing I just pointed out


...that’s it. *shrug*

But oh I thought tw was still voting him. It’s boring being the only vote for him rn so I’ll go back to VOTE: skitter because I feel confident town can pressure nsg and any other lurkers without me and I want more from skit

[stungun0404]

Keyser if you put your sus on me aside for the moment who do you think is scum?

Can I answer this question when all the playerlist have posted.

Because right now, “think is scum” may not be the right label. ‘Not town reading’ is more fitting.

It’s worth noting that all the playerlist has posted, so I’m not sure that’s a valid reason to delay posting something. Are you talking about until they post something substantial?