Nancy is 98.5% town due to Nico check. It’d require moon logic to not be town so nancy is town.In post 2149, the worst wrote:I don't really object to any of the read lists flying around but can someone gimme an indication on who is mechanically town vs just prob/obvtown atm?
Yeah, agree. Her destructive anti-town noise for whatever reason, is an unhelpful impediment to town. I know that’s why I was so hellbent on originally getting TPF slot killed but Chick is far less of a distraction than both Angel and TPF put together. I don’t see her posting kitten gifs as in any way harmful town lol, plus TPF voted for Creature. However, if I don’t see any townie behaviour from Chick soon, I’m not necessarily opposed to having either that slot vigged or lynched next. But rn she isn’t an impediment to town like Angel is, so I’m in no immediate rush to lynch Chick over Angel.In post 2148, Commander Shepard wrote:Because Chick is more likely town than AA9
And even if AA9 is town and we are wrong she needs to die.
In post 2149, the worst wrote:I don't really object to any of the read lists flying around but can someone gimme an indication on who is mechanically town vs just prob/obvtown atm?
I think Shoshin Is also somewhat mechanically cleared if you ISO her d3 posts.In post 2150, Commander Shepard wrote:Nancy is 98.5% town due to Nico check. It’d require moon logic to not be town so nancy is town.In post 2149, the worst wrote:I don't really object to any of the read lists flying around but can someone gimme an indication on who is mechanically town vs just prob/obvtown atm?
Other than that no one as far as I can tell is mechanically confirmed unless you heard otherwise (A).
lol, you can tell the good people of the jury that I'm awful at scum!In post 2152, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I also found a recent scum game of the worst’s and as a result, I’m doubling down on my townread of him.
I mean I wouldn’t go so far as to suggest you should have put in your sig, “please lynch me I’m lockscum in that game” but . . .In post 2154, the worst wrote:lol, you can tell the good people of the jury that I'm awful at scum!In post 2152, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I also found a recent scum game of the worst’s and as a result, I’m doubling down on my townread of him.
Well the worst was instrumental in making the Creature lynch happen and with Shoshin, it’s more a matter of reading btween the lines but yeah I see your point but you could also argue it as a question if degrees, in that mine is just at the top end of that. \_0_/In post 2153, Commander Shepard wrote:Oh I agree those are all prob town.
That isn’tmechanicallytown as the question asked.
I just thought I should address this, in the slight chance that scum kills me today to cause WIFOM. My death would not be tied to random in any way - neither to townspew him or frame him. If I die today, it will because I am the defacto IC and for no other reason. However, if we - God only knows why - fail somehow to correctly lynch Angel today, no one ought to be remotely shocked by my death as a result of that.In post 2143, Shoshin wrote:Nancy, you aren't dying until you reevaluate that read on Random.
no because that would imply you had any idea what you were talking aboutIn post 2087, Shoshin wrote:We need to lynch Random and it's only going to get harder to do as scum kill players who suspect him. I'm probably dying tonight and definitely before LYLO. So I dunno how we're going to win this if Nancy doesn't rethink that read.
for a massive variety of reasonsIn post 2114, Shoshin wrote:Shepard, why would scum do any of the things that AA9's doing?
Yeah, interesting that you brought this up. I’ve been thinking a lot about Sho’s Angel theory and I’m just not seeing it. The only thing mandatory in Mafia is the scum factional kill, nothing else. There is nothing in any one’s role pm ever, that actually FORCES them to do anything and the facts are that Angel not only aggressively pushed a mislynch on a hardclaimed cop, she also voted for Nico and today, she’s trying to lynch the Nico-flipped spewed IC. Angel’s actions IMO are a result of WINCON rather thanIn post 2158, Randomnamechange wrote:no because that would imply you had any idea what you were talking aboutIn post 2087, Shoshin wrote:We need to lynch Random and it's only going to get harder to do as scum kill players who suspect him. I'm probably dying tonight and definitely before LYLO. So I dunno how we're going to win this if Nancy doesn't rethink that read.for a massive variety of reasonsIn post 2114, Shoshin wrote:Shepard, why would scum do any of the things that AA9's doing?
also no one has considered the fact that even if shoshin's theory (which is insanely bastard) is true it could be aa9 faking it
GF?In post 2160, Randomnamechange wrote:Also btw high chance if goblin king isnt town or the mod that its a GF
I think it’s really interesting that we haven’t had a replay of the underground incident on d2. Since that was mostly bad for town - temporarily removing the top 3 posters but also positive in allowing them to have a hood, then the masquerade ball - also good for town because more hoods: it was interestingly the tipping point for the worst to finally be beyond convinced that her hydra buddy was almost certain scum in this game. Also that hillariously ironic video that RC posted kind if makes me wonder if Reality might have actually been onto something with that. Could it all possibly have been player based and Jareth really be a 3P?In post 2160, Randomnamechange wrote:Also btw high chance if goblin king isnt town or the mod that its a GF
godfatherIn post 2161, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:GF?In post 2160, Randomnamechange wrote:Also btw high chance if goblin king isnt town or the mod that its a GF
Why GF over 3P, do you think that isn’t a possibility? The reason is, that Jareth’s actions have not been all bad for town, except the part about them abducting the top 3 posters into the underground and preventing them from voting. Also, it removed 1 Creature vote from the playerlist - Sajj’s.In post 2163, Randomnamechange wrote:godfatherIn post 2161, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:GF?In post 2160, Randomnamechange wrote:Also btw high chance if goblin king isnt town or the mod that its a GF
There is a modifier on MS called compulsive.In post 2159, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Yeah, interesting that you brought this up. I’ve been thinking a lot about Sho’s Angel theory and I’m just not seeing it. The only thing mandatory in Mafia is the scum factional kill, nothing else. There is nothing in any one’s role pm ever, that actually FORCES them to do anything and the facts are that Angel not only aggressively pushed a mislynch on a hardclaimed cop, she also voted for Nico and today, she’s trying to lynch the Nico-flipped spewed IC. Angel’s actions IMO are a result of WINCON rather thanIn post 2158, Randomnamechange wrote:no because that would imply you had any idea what you were talking aboutIn post 2087, Shoshin wrote:We need to lynch Random and it's only going to get harder to do as scum kill players who suspect him. I'm probably dying tonight and definitely before LYLO. So I dunno how we're going to win this if Nancy doesn't rethink that read.for a massive variety of reasonsIn post 2114, Shoshin wrote:Shepard, why would scum do any of the things that AA9's doing?
also no one has considered the fact that even if shoshin's theory (which is insanely bastard) is true it could be aa9 faking itrole. No player aggressively pushes two blatantly obvious mislynches unless it’s somehow conducive to their wincon to make it happen.
Angel knows this is a role madness game and unlike whatever reasons Taly crumbed negative utility in a past game, Angel hardclaimed negative utility, in order to make it a lot easier for her to act over the top wolfy. Angel was counting IMO on people being WIFOMed into thinking someone couldn’t possibly have randed scum and behave this way. IOW, GIF, Shoshin and initially Reality were pocketed by her. Thankfully Reality has seen through this charade of hers. Angel is far from a newb to this site, she mods lots of Newbie games on here. So I think both of them may not have been aware of this fact and mistook her for some inexperienced player, which she clearly is not.
Why the fuck would the goblin king be anything other than scum?In post 2160, Randomnamechange wrote:Also btw high chance if goblin king isnt town or the mod that its a GF
Who was in your PT? Are you referring to Wheme? He characterized everyone who got sent there as scum. Well the thing is that in general hoods are more useful to town than scum and the underground did have one but it also adversely impacted town but I can’t see anything bad for town with the masquerade ball though.In post 2167, Chickadee wrote:Why would anyone think The Worst is scum? I'm not understanding that.
Also (I think I saw someone mention this, but I have no clue when or who) I think there could be some merit in the underground event having a scum in it. But it's just scum wifom, so I'm not sure where to start with that. I mentioned it in my masquerade PT but it wasn't super heavily used. Never got past a page.
what specifically are you referring to?In post 2162, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I think it’s really interesting that we haven’t had a replay of the underground incident on d2. Since that was mostly bad for town - temporarily removing the top 3 posters but also positive in allowing them to have a hood, then the masquerade ball - also good for town because more hoods: it was interestingly the tipping point for the worst to finally be beyond convinced that her hydra buddy was almost certain scum in this game.In post 2160, Randomnamechange wrote:Also btw high chance if goblin king isnt town or the mod that its a GFAlso that hillariously ironic video that RC posted kind if makes me wonder if Reality might have actually been onto something with that.Could it all possibly have been player based and Jareth really be a 3P?
In post 2148, Commander Shepard wrote:Because Chick is more likely town than AA9
And even if AA9 is town and we are wrong she needs to die.
In post 2172, ArcAngel9 wrote:In post 2148, Commander Shepard wrote:Because Chick is more likely town than AA9
And even if AA9 is town and we are wrong she needs to die.
Shoot with Buzuka: Commander
Lay off from me. Why would you want to lynch a town player? that is fucking anti-town. Your reads are shit and your friend nancy drew is equally shit.
ATTENTION PLEASE:
I AM TOWN AND I HAVE A REASON TO SCREAM LOUD IN CAPS, I AM GOING TO DIE AND I AM PLAYING SO THAT TOWN won't LOOSE!!
Put AA9 in red as fuckIn post 2126, Commander Shepard wrote:]Commander Shepherd
Nancy Drew 39
Reality Check
Shoshin
Town unless lylo then conf!scum
Shoshin
Town to worry about if they make it to lylo but not quite conf
The worst
Reads list ordered town to scum
Chickadee
WhemeStar
Taly
Random
Sajj
AA9