NY214: Project Pinecone (Game over! Town wins!)

Elbirn · Post Post #75 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:35 pm

In post 26, profii wrote:
In post 22, Elbirn wrote:Aw sweet I rolled scum! That's one down guys, climb on board!

VOTE: Elbirn
Ah look, some WIFOM, this will help us

I take it you don't want on this ride? I mean. I'm giving you a freebie here. Why won't you take it? Don't you want dead scum?

Inferno390 · Post Post #76 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:56 pm

In post 75, Elbirn wrote:
In post 26, profii wrote:
In post 22, Elbirn wrote:Aw sweet I rolled scum! That's one down guys, climb on board!

VOTE: Elbirn
Ah look, some WIFOM, this will help us
I take it you don't want on this ride? I mean. I'm giving you a freebie here. Why won't you take it? Don't you want dead scum?

Gosh fricking darn, Elbirn!
On one hand, this seems like such a troll thing to say, it’s almost NAI.
On the other, this response pings me to all heck. It feels totally off.

Elbirn · Post Post #77 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:15 pm

In post 76, Inferno390 wrote:
In post 75, Elbirn wrote:
In post 26, profii wrote:
In post 22, Elbirn wrote:Aw sweet I rolled scum! That's one down guys, climb on board!

VOTE: Elbirn
Ah look, some WIFOM, this will help us
I take it you don't want on this ride? I mean. I'm giving you a freebie here. Why won't you take it? Don't you want dead scum?
Gosh fricking darn, Elbirn!
On one hand, this seems like such a troll thing to say, it’s almost NAI.
On the other, this response pings me to all heck. It feels totally off.

Sounds like you should be voting for me, fren

profii · Post Post #78 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:17 pm

In post 73, Raskolnikov wrote:VOTE: No Lynch

Well this is worse than giving us yourself as scum, Elbirn. Wanna wagon your scum buddy here?

Elbirn · Post Post #79 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:37 pm

Mmmm I thought about it but I'd really rather commit to my gimmick here

I'd really like to find out why infernos pussy-footing around voting me, for example

Inferno390 · Post Post #80 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:40 pm

In post 78, profii wrote:
In post 73, Raskolnikov wrote:VOTE: No Lynch
Well this is worse than giving us yourself as scum, Elbirn. Wanna wagon your scum buddy here?

I would hardly call this scummy. It’s well within RVS. It is odd tho.
I would vote you Elbirn , but I’m flip flopping like crazy.

Inferno390 · Post Post #81 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:43 pm

In post 79, Elbirn wrote:Mmmm I thought about it but I'd really rather commit to my gimmick here

I'd really like to find out why infernos pussy-footing around voting me, for example

Because the WIFOM in your scumclaim made me incredibly unsure on how to interpret it.
This, however, feels off. It seems like you’re trying to use me as a way to do a 1v1 to look more towny.

profii · Post Post #82 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:48 pm

In post 80, Inferno390 wrote:
In post 78, profii wrote:
In post 73, Raskolnikov wrote:VOTE: No Lynch
Well this is worse than giving us yourself as scum, Elbirn. Wanna wagon your scum buddy here?
I would hardly call this scummy. It’s well within RVS. It is odd tho.
I would vote you Elbirn , but I’m flip flopping like crazy.

No lynching on day 1 is actively not scum hunting

Self voting is super dumb because it is wifom between omg is he brave scum or is he OMG double bluffing for reaction tests- at least in town!elbirns world he is reaction testing but the question I would ask is, let me know if you get anything useful? You generally don’t

Ideally I say we move on from both of these but no voting on day 1 in my mind is worse than a self vote haha.

Gustavo · Post Post #83 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:50 pm

VOTE: profli

Elbirn · Post Post #84 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:51 pm

In post 80, Inferno390 wrote:
In post 78, profii wrote:
In post 73, Raskolnikov wrote:VOTE: No Lynch
Well this is worse than giving us yourself as scum, Elbirn. Wanna wagon your scum buddy here?
I would hardly call this scummy. It’s well within RVS. It is odd tho.
I would vote you Elbirn , but I’m flip flopping like crazy.

A day 1 no lynch is suboptimal for towns win con in like..every conceivable scenario if I'm not mistaken?Its also refusing to generate content at a time when we most need to begin generating content.

You admit it's odd. What do you think their motivation is?

In post 81, Inferno390 wrote:
In post 79, Elbirn wrote:Mmmm I thought about it but I'd really rather commit to my gimmick here

I'd really like to find out why infernos pussy-footing around voting me, for example
Because the WIFOM in your scumclaim made me incredibly unsure on how to interpret it.
This, however, feels off. It seems like you’re trying to use me as a way to do a 1v1 to look more towny.

Why do you think my motivation is to look more townie? Why haven't you voted me yet?

VOTE: Inferno

davesaz · Post Post #85 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:52 pm

I kinda like the effort to make content from both of them.
Liking it doesn't mean I find it AI, any alignment can feel a need to make content happen.

profii · Post Post #86 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:54 pm

In post 83, Gustavo wrote:VOTE: profli

Well this doesn’t look like RVS. Porque por favor?

Inferno390 · Post Post #87 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:00 pm

In post 82, profii wrote:
In post 80, Inferno390 wrote:
In post 78, profii wrote:
In post 73, Raskolnikov wrote:VOTE: No Lynch
Well this is worse than giving us yourself as scum, Elbirn. Wanna wagon your scum buddy here?
I would hardly call this scummy. It’s well within RVS. It is odd tho.
I would vote you Elbirn , but I’m flip flopping like crazy.
No lynching on day 1 is actively not scum hunting

Self voting is super dumb because it is wifom between omg is he brave scum or is he OMG double bluffing for reaction tests- at least in town!elbirns world he is reaction testing but the question I would ask is, let me know if you get anything useful? You generally don’t

Ideally I say we move on from both of these but no voting on day 1 in my mind is worse than a self vote haha.

I agree that a No Lynch on D1 is a bad idea.
But I also think that during RVS, something like that can’t be read at face value. There is simply not enough info to make a call on whether it’s scum behavior or not.
Now, if we get later into the day and the slot still seems fishy, that’s when I’d come back and say that this was sus. At this point tho, the WIFOM element in play is too strong to make any sort of call. It’s just discussion generating at best.
On another note, I would almost call scum doing this sort of this a triple bluff, where the whole point is to lead people into thinking it’s a double bluff. IMO it’s not nearly as bad as self voting in RVS, because that generates like 0 discussion while a No Lynch at least generates some.

Inferno390 · Post Post #88 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:02 pm

OMGUS
VOTE: Elbirn

This whole drive on my thoughts feels very forced.
Will explain myself further, but I’m on mobile right now.

Gustavo · Post Post #89 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:04 pm

In post 86, profii wrote:
In post 83, Gustavo wrote:VOTE: profli
Well this doesn’t look like RVS. Porque por favor?

I don’t like your posts so far

MagnaofIllusion · Post Post #90 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:18 pm

Does anyone know if Inferno is prone to going of on huge tangents of twisted logic regarding basically alignment neutral posting?

And if so is it in any way alignment indicative for him?

Asking for a friend ...

Raskolnikov · Post Post #91 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:21 pm

Inferno wins first notable goodpost award (87)

VOTE: davesz

Raskolnikov · Post Post #92 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:25 pm

In post 90, MagnaofIllusion wrote:huge tangents of twisted logic

a bit of a stretch no?

Raskolnikov · Post Post #93 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:32 pm

also given gamestate analysing little things or essentially anything is par for the course so I'm not quite understanding that critique

Inferno390 · Post Post #94 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:33 pm

In post 90, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Does anyone know if Inferno is prone to going of on huge tangents of twisted logic regarding basically alignment neutral posting?

And if so is it in any way alignment indicative for him?

Asking for a friend ...

LOL

ISO · Post Post #95 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:34 pm

In post 91, Raskolnikov wrote:Inferno wins first notable goodpost award (87)

VOTE: davesz

read my mind wrt ferno

ISO · Post Post #96 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:35 pm

In post 90, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Does anyone know if Inferno is prone to going of on huge tangents of twisted logic regarding basically alignment neutral posting?

And if so is it in any way alignment indicative for him?

Asking for a friend ...

Page 3 illogical WIFOM meltdowns?
town indicative for inferno IME

ISO · Post Post #97 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:38 pm

Hmm what an interesting rvs. Time to test out my new chainsaw.

VOTE: Elbirn

Raskolnikov · Post Post #98 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:43 pm

VRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR-

Inferno390 · Post Post #99 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:53 pm

@Elbirn
Okay, so here’s what I’m seeing. You self claim as scum. Profit points out the WIFOM. You immediately begin this passive aggressive push on him. That on the front looks like scumhunting, but feels totally off. I say I don’t know where to place you because on one hand, what you’re posting reads trolly town but tonally feels a lot more like fishing for a 1v1 than for scum. You accuse me of pussy footing. I restate my reason and say that I don’t think that Rask’s play is scum indicative at this point. You come back and tell me I’m wrong about Rask and then ask me why I think he’s doing it, which is a really odd series of events anyways, and then you question my read on what you’re doing, complain about me voting you, and then vote me for pressure.

At this point this whole thing feels like an attempt to maneuver yourself into a position where you can 1v1 and do a bunch of LAMIST stuff under the guise of that. The whole passive aggressive thing feels very sus.

Also, I find it amusing that people are saying that Rask’s vote generates no discussion while we’re sitting here literally discussing it.