NY214: Project Pinecone (Game over! Town wins!)

[brassherald]

imo Elbirn is town and just acting dumb

Raskolnikov is scum though

VOTE: Raskolnikov

also if I'm right about Raskolnikov being scum, then inferno is town. I doubt scum buddies would immediately have an interaction like that

Could you expand on these thoughts?

[Gustavo]

VOTE: No Lynch

Well this is worse than giving us yourself as scum, Elbirn. Wanna wagon your scum buddy here?

Why is this scummy to you?

The following post needs to be read in context of “RVS I suppose”

The self vote was bad - if you are scum, voting yourself is anti win con, if you are town, then we all have wifom over the slot because it could be a random gambit/reaction test but it certainly doesn’t help scum hunt

Then we had he no vote. Obviously excluding vigs, we can only kill scum via lynch so again, anti win con play

Admittedly - it moved us out of RVS

I think I’ll be looking at this Rask wagon in a bit for a serious vote, whilst it’s bad play, I’m not sure I’m calling it scummy. As much as I said to Elbirn lynch your scum buddy, I was more interested to see how he felt about the apparent counter reaction test, I’m assuming he Elbirn is town for trying that play (even though i don’t like it)

[Gustavo]

I go to bed and literally the entire world posts while I'm asleep. LITERALLY!

Serious question to everyone, can anyone read profii? Because I always scum read him and its happening again, and I know I can't read him.

Also, HitAlt, am I one of the people you have played with in the past?

I’m pretty sure this time your gut is right about him.

[brassherald]

I think inferno flails by now if they're scum

...so...
why aren't you voting him?

Where did inferno flail?

[brassherald]

I go to bed and literally the entire world posts while I'm asleep. LITERALLY!

Serious question to everyone, can anyone read profii? Because I always scum read him and its happening again, and I know I can't read him.

Also, HitAlt, am I one of the people you have played with in the past?

I’m pretty sure this time your gut is right about him.

VOTE: Profii

Sure, why not? Better than sticking with my RVS vote at this point.

[profii]

VOTE: No Lynch

Well this is worse than giving us yourself as scum, Elbirn. Wanna wagon your scum buddy here?

Why is this scummy to you?

The following post needs to be read in context of “RVS I suppose”

The self vote was bad - if you are scum, voting yourself is anti win con, if you are town, then we all have wifom over the slot because it could be a random gambit/reaction test but it certainly doesn’t help scum hunt

Then we had he no vote. Obviously excluding vigs, we can only kill scum via lynch so again, anti win con play

Admittedly - it moved us out of RVS

I think I’ll be looking at this Rask wagon in a bit for a serious vote, whilst it’s bad play, I’m not sure I’m calling it scummy. As much as I said to Elbirn lynch your scum buddy, I was more interested to see how he felt about the apparent counter reaction test, I’m assuming he Elbirn is town for trying that play (even though i don’t like it)

oh yeah you like fast forwarding day 1

I dunno what your lack of forthcoming schtick is all about though

[profii]

I go to bed and literally the entire world posts while I'm asleep. LITERALLY!

Serious question to everyone, can anyone read profii? Because I always scum read him and its happening again, and I know I can't read him.

Also, HitAlt, am I one of the people you have played with in the past?

I dunno why but I get that a lot - I tend to stick to things that are factual or logical and people tend to be really scared of it but idk why.

for example, no lynching vote is a bad play as it is against our only way of killing scum. It's undisputable, it's not LAMIST as dave said, I'm just highlighting something that people were not talking about to get people to discuss it.

then a wagon formed on Rask - I think we will find opportunistic scum in there, but I'm just popping by on my lunch break so I'll check the VC later.

[brassherald]

Perhaps if you get scum read all the time, it is an issue with your play rather than with people being scared if your information instead of analysis play?

[profii]

I know but I dunno how to fix it.

[Gustavo]

oh yeah you like fast forwarding day 1

Please tell me the similarity of fast day one and voting no lynch is against win conditions. You’re the first person I’ve ever seen argue that no lynching is anti win condition so yeah that was definitely face palm worthy since it isn’t true.

[Gustavo]

I know but I dunno how to fix it.

Stop making iioa posts. That used to be a very reliable way to catch scum so if town start doing it, it muddies the water

[Gustavo]

I dunno what your lack of forthcoming schtick is all about though

Can you explain what you meant by this though? I’m not sure what you’re saying.

[HeWhoSwims]

I can confirm that I've been quick to scumread profii too... wouldn't really know where it comes from. I don't really fault him for anything thus far though.

[HeWhoSwims]

At most I just think he's too quick to jump on Rask here, as I imagine Rask knows that anyone here would start plotting to kill someone who seriously suggests a no lynch on Day 1.

[Gustavo]

I have issues with his stances so far. Self voting and no lynch voting aren’t playing against a win condition regardless of alignment. I feel like he should know better since he’s not a newbie.

He does need to make less wordy posts though. That’s why they come off as iioa

[the worst]

Serious question to everyone, can anyone read profii? Because I always scum read him and its happening again, and I know I can't read him.

S A M E

[the worst]

then a wagon formed on Rask - I think we will find opportunistic scum in there, but I'm just popping by on my lunch break so I'll check the VC later.

hmm do you think Rask is town or being bussed?

[Inferno390]

Okay, so I’m summing up three pages worth of thoughts on mobile, so bear with

Post #118: @HWS the way I see it is that based on Elbirn’s reactions her that as scum it would be an attempt to pick a 1v1 with someone and get a bunch of early town cred through that. I’ve seen plenty of games where getting into a 1v1 and bearing down on it can cause people to take it as TvT.
Post #124 is really good and Dave gets townpoints for that.
Post #130: I agree with this, especially since that by this point my use of LAMIST has been twisted from it’s original purpose. I never called the votes themselves LAMIST. (See my note on #118.) The fact that my idea is being indirectly misinterpreted pings me highly.
Post #144 makes no sense to me. How is not posting LAMIST again?
Post #145: I’m really starting to think that Profii is missing the subtleties of this RVS.

Other notes that are not necessarily tied to any posts:
Gustavo’s lack of contribution is staring to irritate me. Seems scummy.
Everyone keeps asking where Flubbernugget thinks I flailed. I haven’t flailed yet, and isn’t that kind of his point? Based on the wording, Flubbernugget is implying that I’m not scum, not that I am scum.
I don’t like how much TW is moving around without real reasons, but maybe that’s just me.

[brassherald]

Played with you or seen you play.
You are one of the few whose nick I remember better than the avatar.

That would be because I change my avatar pretty regularly.

[brassherald]

And, I thought hitalt was Thor, that answer says it's probably not...

[dramonic]

For

some

definition of not flailing.
76-80-81-88 is the least organic progression I've seen in a long time.

[brassherald]

If hate to be that guy, but can you please use post tags?

I'm definitely not going to be reading those posts either of you referenced.

[Inferno390]

If hate to be that guy, but can you please use post tags?

I'm definitely not going to be reading those posts either of you referenced.

Trust me, I would be, but I’m on mobile, so it’s an extra ten minutes of pain in the ass.

For

some

definition of not flailing.
<a href="tel:76-80-81-88" style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">76-80-81-88</a> is the least organic progression I've seen in a long time.

I’m offended
I’m sorry my train of though is too special for people who I have never played with before to understand

[HeWhoSwims]

Inferno... meet Gus.

I think Profii took the entire ordeal way too serious but I don't hold that as scummy, but NAI - and I doubt scum!profii would try to gain town cred by coming off as scum because as we see some people scumread him more often even when he's town.

TW is amazing and you can expect a lot of fluff and I have a feeling I might have a bad read on scumduck at times

[Flubbernugget]

By flailing, I meant inferno is not spending much time if any defending themselves over scumhunting. They're prone to 1v1 iirc