SUPP 2017 MAFIA: COMPLETE

[Chara]

Alright, fuck it. I'll make some cases on my scumreads. Because apparently that's what you guys need to see that I'm town.

implying that this is a strange thing...? :>

[Shoshin]

I mean, I get why people scum read me given my scum meta, but I hate D1 to being with and there being no voting mechanism is fairly offputting.

Alright, fuck it. I'll make some cases on my scumreads. Because apparently that's what you guys need to see that I'm town.

implying that this is a strange thing...? :>

Depends on the group of players. It's not my preferred way of showing that I'm town.

[Chara]

what's your preferred way?

[the worst]

opened the thread to say I'm starting to wonder if the reasons I was townleaning PP originally were probably NAI in reality and he's actually just scum when I saw Shoshin's case and like

I need someone to tell me if I'm over WIFOMing myself on PP. But if he's scum what actually is his agenda? it kinda feels like he's becoming a compromise lynch just because his reads are out of sync and he was uncomfortable with the gamestate. I get that this could be town or could be scum pushing some bullshit but I just don't get why scum!PP would be doing this.


can like preferably Taly or Chara weigh in and tell me if I'm going mad?

[the worst]

I think im suffering from Too Many Townreads actually

[Chara]

not playing well is always an option. there would be no 'reason' for scum Nahdia to be playing like they have been either, as an example.

pedit: that's only a problem if you have more townreads than town in the game.

[Chara]

but, i do understand. there's a reason i haven't hammered Penguin yet.

[the worst]

I guess so. I felt like I peeked into pp's soul for a second on d1 when I realised how disgruntled with the gamestate he was but that hasn't really lasted and honestly is really NAI

[Chara]

i actually think Penguin knows he hasn't been playing in a way to be townread, and was in turn suspicious of players townreading him. or knows that he hasn't been towny and was going for towncred by saying that. regardless, i don't think it's incorrect to hunt that way.

if both Nahdia and Penguin are town, i'd powerlynch Deas, by the way. Shoshin-scum could still go with Deas scum.

[Chara]

but i'll finish talking to Shoshin before i want to do anything else.

[MariaR]

ik Chara wouldn't hammer without my consent <3

[the worst]

Fair take. I'm at a loss for whether that comes from town PP or scum PP though.

this is actually looking more coherent than expected. I'm more concerned about certain players than others in that pool right now but I think rn more content will help me a lot.

[Dunnstral]

I don't understand why so many people suspect deas?

[Shoshin]

what's your preferred way?

In an ideal world, I'd cast a few votes to indicate my top suspect and maybe ask a few questions to indicate the direction of my scumhunting process - and it'd be apparent I was town. But when I try that it usually leads to lots of suspicion so I have to adapt to the players I'm with. I thought my questions were pretty good ones here but apparently that's not enough, so I suppose I'll try making cases.

[Shoshin]

i actually think Penguin knows he hasn't been playing in a way to be townread, and was in turn suspicious of players townreading him. or knows that he hasn't been towny and was going for towncred by saying that. regardless, i don't think it's incorrect to hunt that way.

Why would you think this? Why is it more likely that he's a townie intentionally playing scummy rather than scum who is actually scummy?

[Shoshin]

I don't understand why so many people suspect deas?

He's disengaged, sort of like me, is my guess.

[ManWithNoName]

Alright, fuck it. I'll make some cases on my scumreads. Because apparently that's what you guys need to see that I'm town.

Do pro-town things to be town.

[ManWithNoName]

Fair take. I'm at a loss for whether that comes from town PP or scum PP though.

this is actually looking more coherent than expected. I'm more concerned about certain players than others in that pool right now but I think rn more content will help me a lot.

Where your scumreads at right now if you aren't reading PP as scum?

[ManWithNoName]

what's your preferred way?

In an ideal world, I'd cast a few votes to indicate my top suspect and maybe ask a few questions to indicate the direction of my scumhunting process - and it'd be apparent I was town. But when I try that it usually leads to lots of suspicion so I have to adapt to the players I'm with. I thought my questions were pretty good ones here but apparently that's not enough, so I suppose I'll try making cases.

Why are you so concerned with appearing town rather than just playing to a town wincon in order to just help town win?

Super Pro Tip, do town things, and town reads will follow, this much concern about being townread by people troubles me. It troubles me quite a bit.

[the worst]

Fair take. I'm at a loss for whether that comes from town PP or scum PP though.

this is actually looking more coherent than expected. I'm more concerned about certain players than others in that pool right now but I think rn more content will help me a lot.

Where your scumreads at right now if you aren't reading PP as scum?

This is pretty much where I'm at a loss.

I didn't like srceen's contribution a whole lot but I'm gonna take a chance on you for obvious reasons.

Shoshin is bugging the hell out of me. Vaxk was too but is now inno'd. I didn't like Fire but he's a cop so will probs be resolved by night actions.

I liked Maria on play to start off with but I'm not so sure anymore. Also have no idea how to read her accurately.

The ActionDan/Nahdia slot struck me as townish but honestly the cases there are starting to make sense for scum. But this is also s vacant slot rn.



So much limbo.

[the worst]

Honestly I'm probably talking myself in circles about PP. I could vote there.

Is he L-1 or L-2?

[the worst]

Nvm I want more content

[ManWithNoName]

Think he's L-3? Though, it did take me like 30 minutes to do a votecount on my main just now, so my counting skills are less than stellar.

[the worst]

can't count higher than 6 tbh, I think you're doing fine.

[ManWithNoName]

So, I'd like a pointed question here. What's the story with Dunn reads? I have been checking his iso and he's kind of null, so, I need some inputs.