Gerrymandering Shadow Government Democracy Mafia Mod Topic

[jjh927]

Ooh pagetop

Relevant SMBC
Another relevant SMBC

[zMuffinMan]

need to get around dns filter to view those at work and can't be bothered

and my phone is like 50cm away from me atm

should i reach over to click those links?

[zMuffinMan]

i live in a good country so i dont know much about gerrymandering

what are the arguments for it over pure democratic vote?

[jjh927]

I'm UK

The true art of this game is the not-so-subtle-but-enveloped-in-a-mafia-game-so-you're-not-looking-for-it commentary on the American political system though

Worth noting that the electoral college system is plagued by gerrymandering. It's unquestionably a bad thing for democracy for exactly the reasons that it gives scum an edge in this game. Just, in real life it's the political elite who do the gerrymandering.

[zMuffinMan]

if it's such a bad thing with so many issues that are that obvious, what are the arguments for it?

[zMuffinMan]

i suppose i could google it but effort

plus i don't really care beyond mild interest in knowing why it exists if it's so apparently bad

[jjh927]

A quick google on your behalf gives you this

It pretty much just goes back to America's founding fathers though and nobody would change it because the system kinda benefits the two parties of the two party system which will probably never relinquish the power it gives them

[jjh927]

Thisis pretty funky too

[jjh927]

You might be thinking "Gee, jjh927 sure is talking out of his ass. Nobody's changing the borders of places" but it's the way these things were originally set up and general political sentiment tied to locations still carries from hundreds of years ago

[zMuffinMan]

i can understand -some- argument for an electoral college system existing (even if outdated), but i don't understand the gerrymandering part

[jjh927]

Gerrymandering is just a general thing with any kind of regional based voting system

From wikipedia:
The word gerrymander (originally written Gerry-mander) was used for the first time in the Boston Gazette on 26 March 1812. The word was created in reaction to a redrawing of Massachusetts state senate election districts under Governor Elbridge Gerry (/ˈɡɛri/; 1744–1814). In 1812, Governor Gerry signed a bill that redistricted Massachusetts to benefit his Democratic-Republican Party. When mapped, one of the contorted districts in the Boston area was said to resemble the shape of a mythological salamander.[6]


There is no argument for it being a good thing and to my knowledge it doesn't happen in America any more. It's just a thing that some people in positions of power do to secure more power

[jjh927]

BTW, let's just have another look at the game because I haven't analysed the districts for today in here yet and things are heating up now

I should really post the party allegiances next time I can get a pagetop too

Let's colourcode party allegiances on the districts as well as alignments for funsies

SNK☆TUFATMLIOSP Party - SNK

Lynch Scum Day One Party - LSDOP

mutante Party - MP

Shit Posting Party - SPP

Bull Moose Party - BMP

Central Park

123456789

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MP

Firebringer

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SPP

Invisibility

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SNK

Ausuka

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LSDOP

Mayfair Club

ofrhz

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MP

Not Known 15

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MP

Ruby Red

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LSDOP

Turns out I'm an idiot lol.

Hebichan

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LSDOP

Myloninja13

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SPP

skitter30

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MP

Aronis

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BMP

Coney Island

Ruby Red

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LSDOP

Wraith

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SPP

Blind Bandits

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LSDOP

Theme Park

the worst

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SNK

Tazaro

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BMP

mutantdevle

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MP

Whemestar

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SPP

Party allegiances:

Party Name	Party Leader	Other Members
SNK☆TUFATMLIOSP	the worst	Invisibility
Lynch Scum Day One Party	Ruby Red	Ausuka; Blind Bandits; hebichan
mutante Party	mutantdevle	123456789; skitter30; Not Known 15; ofrhz
Shit Posting Party	Whemestar	Myloninja13; Wraith; Firebringer
Bull Moose Party	Aronis	Tazaro
Unaligned	-----	Nobody!

[Eddie Cane]

jj told me to read something i didnt read

[jjh927]

I told you to read it because it was gold

[Eddie Cane]

ms doesnt load on my mobile network man i think its flagged

[jjh927]

Damn those districts

The 3 person ones are easy to call
The 4 person ones are all 4 people of different parties

[zMuffinMan]

i wonder why ausuka claimed 2-shot

most people i know would have claimed 1-shot i think - or not claimed their actual role if they even claimed at all

[jjh927]

lmao that fakeclaim


As if I'd ever put a 3rd party in this game

[zMuffinMan]

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how obnoxious

who would use a rainbow text generator, large font and comic sans text to write something in a mafia game?

that is certainly something i would never do

[zMuffinMan]

tbh i am surprised people think claiming third party as scum is a good idea

you always lynch third party claims sooner rather than later because (1) they have no incentive to help town unless it suits them (it may now, it may not later), and (2) scum fake-claim third party a lot (when they're in trouble)

so it strikes me as odd when i see scum do it because it's basically an "ive given up" last resort hail mary

[zMuffinMan]

i can't even remember the last time i saw claiming third party work out for scum. i think ive seen it work once or twice ever

[zMuffinMan]

gotta admit some comments _are_ more amusing with spoilers

Wait, why is Aronis more likely to be president than the very likely town president Whemestar?

[jjh927]

Wow that was a terrible district rename

[zMuffinMan]

wouldnt fault you for modkilling him

[zMuffinMan]

most would say he deserves it