NY 213 - Game Over!

[Gamma Emerald]

nvm shouldv'e read down

[texcat]

Performer's opening post sounds off tonally but I don't think it's really relevant to anyone's alignment so if anything I think it's evidence that he can just sound off tonally in general?
wavemode hadn't really done anything up to that point so I think it's normal to not have a read on him.
I agree that Hopkirk is probably town.
I don't really think lalendra's post was towny? Like I think as mafia if you see something coming from town that you think is really obvtown, you're fairly likely to townread them for it.
I read performer's "why did you neighbourize me" thing as a joke.
It's true that wave has been lurking and not engaging, the point I was trying to make is that I feel wave is the scummiest lurker out there and it feels like what he's done is scum motivated. another thing I should bring up is that after getting wagoned he changed the behaviour that caused him to get wagoned- he no longer seems to believe in his philosophy of "go ahead and lynch me I'm just vt" and "We'll lynch town d1 so why bother lol"
I've never seen the majority of players in a neighbourhood being scum, can you link me to somewhere where that happened?
I agree that sajj is fairly scummy.

Performer has been very unsurvivalistic in the hood recently, softing a role that wants to be lynched. I think he's scum less than 1% of the time rn tbh.

And no I didn't say I'm a town vengeful.

Ausuka, Why have you changed your mind about Wavemode? Is it just because he's been more engaged? Has he started engaging in the PT? And you say you are town reading Performer. Is that just because he was softing vengeful? And yet he says not?

[Ircher]

Day 1 VC #36

Performer (9) (L-4) - EspeciallyTheLies (515), Kublai Khan (957), Wavemode (1108), Vaxkiller (1116), Lalendra (1229), Osuka (1384), ArcAngel9 (1397), Scioness Sajj (1552), Myloninja13 (1554)

Almost50 (0) -
Golden Robster (0) -
Pine (0) -
Creature (0) -
Kublai Khan (0) -
Hopkirk (0) -
Gamma Emerald (0) -
Ausuka (0) -
Lalendra (1) - Dunnstral (1623)
Frozen Angel (0) -
JarJarDrinks (1) - Andriod18 (855)
Osuka (2) - Pine (176),

TheRampage

PenguinPower (681)

Andriod18 (5) - JarJarDrinks (1410), Creature (1449), Almost50 (1460), Hopkirk (1679), Ausuka (1680)
Texcat (0) -
ArcAngel9 (0) -
Vaxkiller (0) -
Wavemode (3) - Performer (1051), Texcat (1080), Gamma Emerald (1107)
PenguinPower (0) -
Myloninja13 (0) -
Scioness Sajj (0) -
Flavor Leaf (1) - WhemeStar (955)
Not Voting (3) - Flavor Leaf, Golden Robster (1589), Frozen Angel (1606)

Lynch Threshold

During day 1, it takes 13 votes to lynch a player.

Deadline

Day 1 ends on July 1, 2018 4:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2018-07-01 16:00:00).

Moderator Notes

Moderator is V/LA July 1 and July 4.

EspeciallyTheLies is V/LA for an indefinite time.

Scioness Sajj V/LA until July 2.
Andriod18 V/LA until Saturday, June 30.
Deadline extended to July 1, 2018 4:00 PM EDT.
As a general reminder, if you are regularly V/LA on the weekends, you must either set V/LA tags each weekend or post in-thread that you'll be V/LA over the weekend

each weekend

so that both I and other players can keep track of it easily.
If you notice any mistakes, please point them out. (That includes looking at the voting history.)

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Day 1

Dunnstral: Osuka (77) --> Texcat (1388) --> Lalendra (1623)
Srceenplay (0): (Null)
Peformer: Osuka (623) --> TheRampage (909) --> Wavemode (1051)
Joral (0): (Null)
Almost50: Hopkirk (97) --> Edosurist (226) --> Osuka (390) -->

Ausuka

(1205) --> (Null) (1304) --> Vaxkiller (1352) --> (Null) (1380) --> Andriod18 (1460)
Fumuki (0): (Null)
Golden Robster: Almost50 (177) --> Wavemode (183) --> Osuka (236) -->

Ausuka (317)

--> JarJarDrinks (319) --> (Null) (546) --> Vaxkiller (602) --> (Null) (1504) --> Wavemode (1588) --> (Null) (1589)
Pine: Osuka (176)
Creature: Performer (385) --> Myloninja13 (720) --> TheRampage (813) --> Performer (898) --> Andriod18 (1449)
Kublai Khan: Osuka (76) --> Almost50 (122) --> Scioness Sajj (388) --> JarJarDrinks (536) --> Osuka (725) --> Performer (957)
WhemeStar: Lalendra (234) --> JarJarDrinks (797) --> Flavor Leaf (955)
Hopkirk: Osuka (90) --> Lalendra (279) --> Osuka (696) --> (Null) (993) --> Wavemode (999) --> Performer (1273) --> (Null) (1315) --> Performer (1458) --> Andriod18 (1679)
Edosurist: Texcat (84) --> Almost50 (222)
Gamma Emerald: Vaxkiller (710) --> Wavemode (1107)

Ausuka

: JarJarDrinks (89) --> Creature (104) --> Myloninja13 (429) --> (Null) (742) --> TheRampage (743) --> Wavemode (998) --> Performer (1604) --> Lalendra (1624) --> Andriod18 (1680)
Lalendra: Almost50 (209) --> (Null) (559) --> Performer (1229)
EspeciallyTheLies: Almost50 (83) --> Performer (515)
Lovebird (1): Edosurist (259)
Davesaz (1): Wavemode (1014)
Frozen Angel: Performer (1579) --> (Null) (1606)
JarJarDrinks: Osuka (85) --> Almost50 (114) --> Charles510 (186) --> Edosurist (231) --> Osuka (535) -->

Ausuka

(842) --> Wavemode (1112) --> Andriod18 (1410)
Osuka: Wavemode (80) --> JarJarDrinks (124) --> ArcAngel9 (229) --> Pine (332) --> JarJarDrinks (353) --> Performer (769) --> TheRampage (771) --> Performer (1047) --> Vaxkiller (1359) --> Performer (1384)
Texcat: Osuka (79) --> Wavemode (1080)
Andriod18: Kublai Khan (190) --> Lovebird (290) --> JarJarDrinks (855)
ArcAngel9: Texcat (81) --> TheRampage (223) --> Texcat (604) --> Performer (1397)
Charles510 (2): JarJarDrinks (87) --> (Null) (310)
Vaxkiller: JarJarDrinks (363) --> Scioness Sajj (389) --> Andriod18 (437) --> JarJarDrinks (532) --> Golden Robster (678) --> Wavemode (1078) --> TheRampage (1085) --> Performer (1116)
Wavemode: Texcat (82) --> Charles510 (131) --> (Null) (838) --> Osuka (867) --> Performer (1108)
TheRampage (3): Creature (100) --> (Null) (509) --> Osuka (681)
Myloninja13: Edosurist (233) --> JarJarDrinks (326) --> Performer (1554)
Scioness Sajj:

Ausuka

(406) --> (Null) (1325) --> Performer (1552)

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Pre-Game

Dunnstral (2): Texcat (9) --> Pine (43)
Srceenplay (1): Andriod18 (62)
Pine (1): Osuka (16)
Kublai Khan (1): Pine (34)
Hopkirk (1): Osuka (66)
Edosurist (1): Pine (42)
Osuka (2): Pine (28) --> Wavemode (33)
Texcat (1): Pine (44)
Wavemode (1): Osuka (31)

[texcat]

I do not believe in the Performer wagon, and am willing to compromise elsewhere. Deadline approaching.

My spidey sense tingles that the neighborhood is TTT. It feels like a red herring.

The water is still fine on the Osuka wagon.

I mostly agree with this. I still think Wavemode might be scum, but Ausuka changing directions on him has me questioning it.

VOTE: Osuka

[Gamma Emerald]

Votecount 1.34

Performer(10)

~ EspeciallyTheLies(46), Kublai Khan(59), Wavemode(41), Vaxkiller(68), Lalendra(48), Osuka(82), ArcAngel9(12), Hopkirk(94), Scioness Sajj(41), Myloninja13(15)

Wavemode(3)

~ Performer(57), Texcat(24), Gamma Emerald(97)

Andriod18(3)

~ JarJarDrinks(106), Creature(124), Almost50(101)

Osuka(2)

~ Pine(24), PenguinPower(16)

Texcat(1)

~ Dunnstral(55)

JarJarDrinks(1)

~ Andriod18(13)

FlavorLeaf(1)

~ WhemeStar(32)


Not Voting (4): Golden Robster(89), Ausuka(93), Frozen Angel(66), FlavorLeaf(23)

With 25 alive it takes 13 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-07-01 16:00:00)

MOD REMINDERS

NONE

Performed 10 calls in 127 seconds. With an average of 12.7612 seconds per call.

So umm wavemode's only motive to vote performer was to "form wagons" and that was direct counterwagoning to himself
I may be off my rocker but that feels kinda scummy to me

[Frozen Angel]

nvm shouldv'e read down

I was thinking the deadline is close so I was just summing up my reads by giving my impression after catchup about names I could remember

[Gamma Emerald]

He's a pain that (atleast I believe) will eventually be sorted later in the game

Pretty used to see him lurking lately

Actually as far as I can tell Dunn's been fairly active this game

[Frozen Angel]

Performer's opening post sounds off tonally but I don't think it's really relevant to anyone's alignment so if anything I think it's evidence that he can just sound off tonally in general?
wavemode hadn't really done anything up to that point so I think it's normal to not have a read on him.
I agree that Hopkirk is probably town.
I don't really think lalendra's post was towny? Like I think as mafia if you see something coming from town that you think is really obvtown, you're fairly likely to townread them for it.
I read performer's "why did you neighbourize me" thing as a joke.
It's true that wave has been lurking and not engaging, the point I was trying to make is that I feel wave is the scummiest lurker out there and it feels like what he's done is scum motivated. another thing I should bring up is that after getting wagoned he changed the behaviour that caused him to get wagoned- he no longer seems to believe in his philosophy of "go ahead and lynch me I'm just vt" and "We'll lynch town d1 so why bother lol"
I've never seen the majority of players in a neighbourhood being scum, can you link me to somewhere where that happened?
I agree that sajj is fairly scummy.

Performer has been very unsurvivalistic in the hood recently, softing a role that wants to be lynched. I think he's scum less than 1% of the time rn tbh.

And no I didn't say I'm a town vengeful.

Ausuka, Why have you changed your mind about Wavemode? Is it just because he's been more engaged? Has he started engaging in the PT? And you say you are town reading Performer. Is that just because he was softing vengeful? And yet he says not?

he says performer does weird stuff everywhere and that his tone is scummy and he is mislynch bait all the time and performer is coasting on it imo.

I'm actually ok with giving performer a day or two - hopefully, alive town later in game won't allow him to coast

[Gamma Emerald]

IDk how I feel about an android wagon.

I'll definitely support it over Performer but as long as wavemode remains an option I prolly won't go for it

[Frozen Angel]

I do not believe in the Performer wagon, and am willing to compromise elsewhere. Deadline approaching.

My spidey sense tingles that the neighborhood is TTT. It feels like a red herring.

The water is still fine on the Osuka wagon.

I mostly agree with this. I still think Wavemode might be scum, but Ausuka changing directions on him has me questioning it.

VOTE: Osuka

I dislike this vote and how you backtracked to it using the ic as a shield. explain your Osuka scumread and how Ausuka made you question your read on wave

[Ircher]

Prodding Flavor Leaf (2d 15h). They have (expired on 2018-07-01 13:49:06) to respond in-thread (or by pm if the thread is locked by the point they return.)

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Andriod18
yeah wave isn't happening today

[Frozen Angel]

IDk how I feel about an android wagon.

I'll definitely support it over Performer but as long as wavemode remains an option I prolly won't go for it

explain your town read on performer please

[Frozen Angel]

Why is android happening today?

why you want wave to happen today?

[Frozen Angel]

I just wanna know the way you think and evaluate people right now and why you choose one over another

[Gamma Emerald]

IDk how I feel about an android wagon.

I'll definitely support it over Performer but as long as wavemode remains an option I prolly won't go for it

explain your town read on performer please

Their thought process felt natural when I was doing my catch-up, and there's the fact that the game seemed resigned to just lynch him. I don't think that happens to scum!Performer unless it really sets up his tam well association-wise and I don't recall anyone making associations based on him flipping scum much.

Why is android happening today?

why you want wave to happen today?

maybe I'm being irrational, but wave sorta thread dodging felt bad, plus his vote of performer doesn't really impress me
as for andriod yes it's a lurker lynch but it's one I feel okay with, especially since apparently they've been active elsewhere? someone else said this and I haven't checked myself.

[Flavor Leaf]

Yo gabba gabba
I’m here. I have time. Talk to me, talk to me, babbbbyyy

[Flavor Leaf]

Let’s not do someone in the neighborhood for the day, I wanna try to do some analyzing next day phase.

Large Norms are my speciality. Just not early games. Y’all know me. Y’all know me.

I’ll make an entrance eventually.
Yo.

[Frozen Angel]

IDk how I feel about an android wagon.

I'll definitely support it over Performer but as long as wavemode remains an option I prolly won't go for it

explain your town read on performer please

Their thought process felt natural when I was doing my catch-up, and there's the fact that the game seemed resigned to just lynch him. I don't think that happens to scum!Performer unless it really sets up his tam well association-wise and I don't recall anyone making associations based on him flipping scum much.

Why is android happening today?

why you want wave to happen today?

maybe I'm being irrational, but wave sorta thread dodging felt bad, plus his vote of performer doesn't really impress me
as for andriod yes it's a lurker lynch but it's one I feel okay with, especially since apparently they've been active elsewhere? someone else said this and I haven't checked myself.

can you link to some of performer posts you liked if possible?

[Ausuka]

Yo gabba gabba
I’m here. I have time. Talk to me, talk to me, babbbbyyy

Why aren't you voting with just over a day left until deadline?

I do not believe in the Performer wagon, and am willing to compromise elsewhere. Deadline approaching.

My spidey sense tingles that the neighborhood is TTT. It feels like a red herring.

The water is still fine on the Osuka wagon.

I mostly agree with this. I still think Wavemode might be scum, but Ausuka changing directions on him has me questioning it.

VOTE: Osuka

I still sr wave but people have shown reluctance to lynch him that I can't understand.

[Frozen Angel]

Let’s not do someone in the neighborhood for the day, I wanna try to do some analyzing next day phase.

Large Norms are my speciality. Just not early games. Y’all know me. Y’all know me.

I’ll make an entrance eventually.
Yo.

why not neighborhood? who do you want lynched and why?

[Gamma Emerald]

432, 444, and 505 are the ones I like best from a look-over
I didn't note specific posts wrt to this fyi

[Almost50]

oh yeah android is fine lynch

Join the growing wagon?

[Almost50]

somebody find the rerun of The Real Folks Blues modded by Firebringer and Frozen Angel

It was based on my design / blue prints and was ran by Radiantcowbells and Firebringer not me.

I missed that he ref'ed the rerun, that wasn't an element in the rerun actually, it was in the original

Well, I obviously meant the original (the one that did have the details I talked about, was modded by FA and I wasn't in it. I was a player in the rerun myself so could've found the link to it if I wanted to)

[Hopkirk]

Classic (IC): Ausuka
Class TA: (town, not a priority to reread) Gamma, A50, KK, Creature, ETL, Mylo, Scion, Ousuka
Class TB: (town that i should reread tomorrow but still like) Penguin, Pine, Robster, Flavor Leaf, FA, Dunn
Class TC (as above, but concerned with some associatons specifically): Wheme, JarJar
Class S: (lynchpool): Texcat, Android, Arc, Lalendra

Class N (Neighbours with probably one scum): Performer/Wave
Class V (Claiming Vig): Vax

I think I'm looking at something along these lines roughly. A few people in TA/TB should probably swap positions. TC isn't lower necesarily lower than TB.