NY 213 - Game Over!

[JarJarDrinks]

Hey, Im not a vig. I claimed that yesterday to stop people pilling on the a stupid wagon and leading us to a no lynch. On top of that I was hoping I would be a scum target. Since I wasnt im assuming alot of my reads are wrong. I kinda like golden robs reactions at the start of the day, but he has a way to go for getting a town read.

Especially the lies doesnt look great today tho, who wasnt even on my radar yesterday.

Were you not worried that there was a real vig out there who'd shoot you and you'd screw over the town?

Did you see my follow up post after I claimed?

You mean this?

NOONE counter. I aint syaing shit else.

Yes I saw that. Then I saw this:

well give me a list of acceptable shots

[Gamma Emerald]

aww I don't remember the tag for in game links xd

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Also the unneeded claim was rampage claiming vanilla townie out of the blue

[Gamma Emerald]

PROOF THAT PENGUIN IS A LIAR.

Rampage was never a wagon...3 votes at most, and it disappeared when the neighborhood stuff happened.

I thought you didn't catch up, Penguin. Being able to gauge the timing of a wagon and surrounding arguments is a pretty in-depth thing that you can only gain from a true read through.

Or someone in your Mafia PT told you to say that XD

Or I ISO'd the mod and saw the vote history. Which takes all of a few minutes to do.

That doesn't explain your comment about "that's when the neighborhood stuff happened". The mod's ISO doesn't give you that.

This might be something valid, I remember catching Wisdom once this same way.

[Vaxkiller]

Hey, Im not a vig. I claimed that yesterday to stop people pilling on the a stupid wagon and leading us to a no lynch. On top of that I was hoping I would be a scum target. Since I wasnt im assuming alot of my reads are wrong. I kinda like golden robs reactions at the start of the day, but he has a way to go for getting a town read.

Especially the lies doesnt look great today tho, who wasnt even on my radar yesterday.

Were you not worried that there was a real vig out there who'd shoot you and you'd screw over the town?

Did you see my follow up post after I claimed?

You mean this?

NOONE counter. I aint syaing shit else.

Yes I saw that. Then I saw this:

well give me a list of acceptable shots

and what does all this tell you?

[Gamma Emerald]

of course there's the possibility that both vax and scum shot the same target but i really dont see scum shooting a50 here. he was far from a universal townread. there's two things here where shooting a50 makes sense - 1) they thought he was a PR or 2) one of the universal townreads is actually scum, even besides the IC who was probably protected.

p-edit: no he didn't, i'm just thinking out loud to try to understand why or why not android could be scum. at the moment i'm conflicted on it.

Mind telling me who scumread A50? I don't remember anyone being particularly vocal about it.

[JarJarDrinks]

Hey, Im not a vig. I claimed that yesterday to stop people pilling on the a stupid wagon and leading us to a no lynch. On top of that I was hoping I would be a scum target. Since I wasnt im assuming alot of my reads are wrong. I kinda like golden robs reactions at the start of the day, but he has a way to go for getting a town read.

Especially the lies doesnt look great today tho, who wasnt even on my radar yesterday.

Were you not worried that there was a real vig out there who'd shoot you and you'd screw over the town?

Did you see my follow up post after I claimed?

You mean this?

NOONE counter. I aint syaing shit else.

Yes I saw that. Then I saw this:

well give me a list of acceptable shots

and what does all this tell you?

That whether ur town or scum, u've played terrible this game.

[Vaxkiller]

I guess that's about right actually.

[Lalendra]

Town

: Ausuka (conf town) (3p hood)

Leaning Town

: KK, Gamma, ETL, FA
------- (town block)

Semi-leaning Town

: Hopkirk, Dunstrall, Pine
------- (not willing to lynch above)

Kind of town

: Android, Wavemode (3p hood), Lalendra

Neutral/Undecided

: Mylon (UD), PP (UD)

Meh

: JJD, FL, Texcat, AA9, Whemestar

Leaning Scum

: Vax*, Creature, Scioness

Scum

:

Sorry if you already explained and I missed it but why is there an asterisk on Vax?

[Lalendra]

Hey, Im not a vig. I claimed that yesterday to stop people pilling on the a stupid wagon and leading us to a no lynch. On top of that I was hoping I would be a scum target. Since I wasnt im assuming alot of my reads are wrong. I kinda like golden robs reactions at the start of the day, but he has a way to go for getting a town read.

Especially the lies doesnt look great today tho, who wasnt even on my radar yesterday.

[Lalendra]

That whether ur town or scum, u've played terrible this game.

I don't like ad hominem attacks but I also really, REALLY hate it when town lies about PR's. Because all you've done is call out the fact that there may or may not be a PR that scum may or may not have been thinking about before, did it aggressively, wasted a potential night action by another PR who may have tried to protect you etc. Although, I'm guessing we don't have a vig because if we did, despite your "NOONECOUNTERCLAIMME" flailing, I would think they would have CC'd you.

VOTE: Vaxkiller

[Vaxkiller]

This is probably one of my worst games to date, and im really going to fuck over town. Feelsbadman

[Gamma Emerald]

Hey, Im not a vig. I claimed that yesterday to stop people pilling on the a stupid wagon and leading us to a no lynch. On top of that I was hoping I would be a scum target. Since I wasnt im assuming alot of my reads are wrong. I kinda like golden robs reactions at the start of the day, but he has a way to go for getting a town read.

Especially the lies doesnt look great today tho, who wasnt even on my radar yesterday.

Scum already knows you're PR most likely from this (stop a no-lynch would be weird from a VT) so why don't you just claim?

[Gamma Emerald]

I am with Frozen here, with the caveat that the way Android dissolved makes me think it was possibly a

scum driven wagon

with desire to draw a claim

Andriod18 (10) (L-3) - JarJarDrinks (1410), Almost50 (1460), Hopkirk (1679), Ausuka (1680), Gamma Emerald (1711), Scioness Sajj (1760), Flavor Leaf (1772), Texcat, Myloninja13 (1787), Pine (1835)

Whose scum on this wagon?

probably those who hopped off after claim

[JarJarDrinks]

That whether ur town or scum, u've played terrible this game.

I don't like ad hominem attacks but I also really, REALLY hate it when town lies about PR's. Because all you've done is call out the fact that there may or may not be a PR that scum may or may not have been thinking about before, did it aggressively, wasted a potential night action by another PR who may have tried to protect you etc. Although, I'm guessing we don't have a vig because if we did, despite your "NOONECOUNTERCLAIMME" flailing, I would think they would have CC'd you.

VOTE: Vaxkiller

Scum does all this why though?

[EspeciallyTheLies]

lalendras post sounds like scum mad about wasting a block or something and gamma pressuring vax to claim with like two votes on him is gross.

[texcat]

Scum does all this why though?

To prevent getting lynched? To out the real vig? To draw the protection?

It's beginning to look to me like we might not have a vig. Although I guess it's possible that Vax was protected and targeted by either scum or the real vig.

[JarJarDrinks]

Frozen Angel, HopKirk, Gamma Emerald, Golden Robster

These are all strong townreads. I see real scumhunting and purpose behind all their posts. I can expound more if people want specifics.

Creature

- Town - Posting style is jarring but there's certain posts I look at that just really cant come from scum.

Pine

- Town - Not alot of posts but I like most of them. I feel like Pine is on the same page as me.

Texcat

- townlean - Posts come across as genuine and nothing very scummy that I can see.

Vaxkiller

- townlean. Faking a vig claim is just so terrible but i dont know that I see scum doing it.

PenguinPower

- slight townlean - Not enough from him yet but ok so far. rampage was null for me.

Kublai Khan

- slight scumlean I guess. Nothing in his ISO really jumps out as too scummy to me but I feel like his reads lack depth. Also he's been scumreading alot of townies.

EspeciallyTheLies

- slight scumlean - I've already posted about how I felt like his whole day 1 was contrived but I think he's playing pretty solid on day 2.

Dunnstral

- slight scumlean - He does seem to put his opinion out there which is good. But man he spent alot of time yesterday talking about how bad the people voting in the hood was. And I very much dislike 1969.

Flavor Leaf

- slight scumlean - dislike all the self meta. Keeps promising content. Where is it?

Lalendra

- scumlean. Not very much content in her posts. Quite a bit of posts that aren't really related to this game.

Myloninja13

- scum - zero reads. An ISO full of garbage.

Wavemode

- scum. There's a chance performer wagon was a counter to scumwave. I guess I wont read too much into the hood but it's still on my mind. And as people have pointed he doesnt really ever scumread anyone. He seems to be trying not to piss people off.

WhemeStar

- Scum - has literally not explained a single read in his crappy lurker ISO

ArcAngel9

- scum - Performer vote was skeevey AF and the tex vote today doesnt really look much better

Scioness Sajj

- scum - dislike her early creature defending. Also makes alot of reads but there's never much reason given. It looks like scum trying to look it's giving an opinion but w/o really doing so.

Andriod18

- Scum - I think I've posted plenty why Android is scum. It's where my vote is going as of now so I'm sure I'll be expounding on this read through the day.

[JarJarDrinks]

VOTE: Andriod18

[JarJarDrinks]

Gonna assume nobody is posting because ur all so speechless at how amazing that reads list is?

[Hopkirk]

No longer townreading Scion after looking through a few previous games. Given the amount they posted in other games + Scion's approach to it this game, this feels like intentional lurking.

[Hopkirk]

Can you go through town Tex Rob?

[Hopkirk]

Can you go through town Tex Rob?

@JarJAr I mean.

[Hopkirk]

@Android: I didn't vote you because I wasn't done with what I wanted to read before voting.


Scumpool: KK, Arc, Wave, Android, Lalendra
Scumpool 2 (the ones I want to sort more. Harder to sort due to lurking): Tex, pine, Wheme, Flavour Leaf, Mylo, Scion

VOTE: Android

[JarJarDrinks]

Can you go through town Tex Rob?

@JarJAr I mean.

It's a lean which is just a little better than null so don't think it's a strong townread or anything.

Like I said it's just kind of a genuine tone w/ some paranoia that feels town. And nothing really scum pings me.

[Ircher]

Bump.