Heroes Wanted! (Game Over)

[Frozen Angel]

Chikade lets say they could coordinate and they did

what do you think about the claimed votes so far?

[Sakura Hana]

If you think scum did some sort of plan for whom they voted, you need to figure out the "why" and the "how", and so you can use this info to figure out who's scum and who isn't, as is, this seems like an exercise in futility because anything could have happened, even worse than NKA in terms of figuring out what went on with scum's vote. Not going to stop you, just giving my opinion, if you think you can find scum by it then all the more power to you.

Because at current, i see you asking for info, because information helps the town, but i dont see you figuring out anything out of said information, and ill reserve my judgement for when you do (or dont).

[zMuffinMan]

(katsuki, bbmolla and chickadee)

no // tentative yeah // yeah

So Toronaga town, Human scum

yeah // maybe, but need more data

I voted Katsuki and firmly believe he should have been leader.

jesus christ...

sando is towny

yeah

[Frozen Angel]

I think the better practice would be to claim who you voted for, the reason and your favorite superhero.

Like me, I like Green Lantern, specifically, the one played by Ryan Reynolds. That movie is like Citizen Kane, but better.

This post is low key alarming on a reread.

[Frozen Angel]

VOTE: zMuffinMan

why you don't elaborate your reads/points

[zMuffinMan]

reads/points

dont feel like it atm // if i made any points, it was an accident and i apologise

[Frozen Angel]

reads/points

dont feel like it atm // if i made any points, it was an accident and i apologise

[Frozen Angel]

ok let me ask more direct questions

why do you think katsuki reaction in voting you were not pure?
why do you think bbmolla reaction was tentatively pure?
Please talk about your read on Toronaga and Human.
What is that Jesus Christ meaning?
why do you think sando is towny?

[Nancy Drew 39]

I can tell you that I'm like 95% sure that I had 2 more votes from the remaining playlist and that they would vote me regardless of alignment.

I can even see myself have upto 4 votes between the remaining playerlist.

Looking at this and the votes that are already claimed, it feels like that the scums were uncoordinated pregame or if they were coordinated they were not coordinated enough to bypass the votes on me (or they thought it's unnecessary)

one other theory is that they did pile up on me because they saw sign up thread and felt like I might have some votes so they just halped it happen to put me in spotlight but that feels kind of suboptimal. and they must be lieing about their votes if that's the case. or the people who would vote me regardless of alignment can be those scums.

In every game I’m in, I always go with Occams Razor. The simplest explanation always makes the most sense. I don’t think it makes a lot of sense for scum to lie about their votes. Why make things harder for themselves? I think we can WIFOM ourselves to oblivion about if scum are lying about their votes or not. What we ought to be doing instead, is what any good villa does: focusing on the

mindset

behind the vote. Did a player make their vote with town’s best interests in mind or not?

[Sando]

If you think scum did some sort of plan for whom they voted, you need to figure out the "why" and the "how", and so you can use this info to figure out who's scum and who isn't, as is, this seems like an exercise in futility because anything could have happened, even worse than NKA in terms of figuring out what went on with scum's vote. Not going to stop you, just giving my opinion, if you think you can find scum by it then all the more power to you.

Because at current, i see you asking for info, because information helps the town, but i dont see you figuring out anything out of said information, and ill reserve my judgement for when you do (or dont).

Is this directed at me?

Because
Why = manipulating the leader is good for scum
How = by doing this new-fangled thing called "talking", in this case "typing", I'll give you that

I haven't figured anything out and I've specifically said that for now it's fairly useless information that in the future may be of use.

[zMuffinMan]

maybe drixx is scum

[Frozen Angel]

I really want to think that I'm actually a good town and that the votes on me were not for petty or because of my special condition only

but yeah the reasons for votes are important. People with fresh meta on others can analyse that better though.

I can say that the two claimed votes on me were "made with town’s best interests in mind" and that I'm not freaked out by either.

[Cerberus v666]

Cool. Thank you FA.

I voted for FA, because she was the person in the list who I felt had the greatest combined chance of being selected by the rest of the playerlist, AND putting me on her team. ^^

If anyone would like to know the list of possible people I was considering voting for, I'll share. Otherwise, you get nothing from me!

@Drixx: Did you really consider it probable that I would be the likely selection of the players in this game...at least, without the deliberate support of scum?

@zmuffin: You really did make points. :-/

@sakura: Do you have any contributions to make other than shitting on sando/chickadee/whoever else talked about scum coordination's position? I see your gradual descent towards painting everyone who is speculating about scum actions as engaging in useless scummy fluffy mechanical talk instead of scumhunting, yet I don't actually see you doing anything any better yourself.

[Nancy Drew 39]

sando is towny

Dunno, but scum having day chat and not pregame chat seems rather silly to me.

this

well i just think after thousands of games that have been run with pre-game chat, brian decided "you know what? pregame chat sucks and i hate scum and i'm not gonna let them have it" and so he didn't

it just makes sense

and also this

Agreed. I’m also liking Sakura and Muffin makes a lot of sense.

[zMuffinMan]

@zmuffin: You really did make points. :-/

i already apologised. do you want me to prostrate myself and beg forgiveness or something?

i won't do it again. sorry

[Cerberus v666]

I can tell you that I'm like 95% sure that I had 2 more votes from the remaining playlist and that they would vote me regardless of alignment.

I can even see myself have upto 4 votes between the remaining playerlist.

Looking at this and the votes that are already claimed, it feels like that the scums were uncoordinated pregame or if they were coordinated they were not coordinated enough to bypass the votes on me (or they thought it's unnecessary)

one other theory is that they did pile up on me because they saw sign up thread and felt like I might have some votes so they just halped it happen to put me in spotlight but that feels kind of suboptimal. and they must be lieing about their votes if that's the case. or the people who would vote me regardless of alignment can be those scums.

In every game I’m in, I always go with Occams Razor. The simplest explanation always makes the most sense. I don’t think it makes a lot of sense for scum to lie about their votes. Why make things harder for themselves? I think we can WIFOM ourselves to oblivion about if scum are lying about their votes or not. What we ought to be doing instead, is what any good villa does: focusing on the

mindset

behind the vote. Did a player make their vote with town’s best interests in mind or not?

Yep. Nancy is 100% correct here. Though I am concerned about scum lies, I don't actually find them particularly likely with regards to this at least, UNLESS they all piled on a teammate who *didn't* get it and who they don't have verifiable reason to vote for that's unrelated to this game in particular. The reasoning though, that's the thing. The thought process they used to make that decision, and whether that thought process is in line with town!them...that will be useful to at least some people here.

[Cerberus v666]

@zmuffin: You really did make points. :-/

i already apologised. do you want me to prostrate myself and beg forgiveness or something?

i won't do it again. sorry

Naw, you should keep making points, but your points should be accompanied by reasons so *I* have a reason to give a damn about your perspective.

[Frozen Angel]

I voted for FA, because she was the person in the list who I felt had the greatest combined chance of being selected by the rest of the playerlist, AND putting me on her team. ^^

lol <3

I consider it XD

[Sakura Hana]

Do you have any contributions to make other than shitting on sando/chickadee/whoever else talked about scum coordination's position?

Nope

I see your gradual descent towards painting everyone who is speculating about scum actions as engaging in useless scummy fluffy mechanical talk instead of scumhunting

Painting?

yet I don't actually see you doing anything any better yourself.

Maybe you need better glasses then.

[Cerberus v666]

Do you have any contributions to make other than shitting on sando/chickadee/whoever else talked about scum coordination's position?

Nope

I see your gradual descent towards painting everyone who is speculating about scum actions as engaging in useless scummy fluffy mechanical talk instead of scumhunting

Painting?

yet I don't actually see you doing anything any better yourself.

Maybe you need better glasses then.

Painting, as in figuratively, as in using a broad brush, broad strokes, to just label them all as engaging in activity x.

The rest of your post is of no value, but thank you for responding to me at least.

[Cerberus v666]

Oh, and whoever decided that FA and I can't be scum together, please elaborate on that position. I don't believe you're familiar with me at least, so I'm very interested in what it is about FA's play and actions with regards to me that goes against your expectations for her interactions with scummates in the past.

[zMuffinMan]

hmm, ive actually been more forward with stating reads than i initially planned to be in this game so i'm going to stay quiet for a while and observe proceedings and maybe ask questions here or there

[Cerberus v666]

Actually, maybe don't elaborate on that yet, but like...I do want elaboration on that by day 3, or if FA flips as scum.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh, and whoever decided that FA and I can't be scum together, please elaborate on that position. I don't believe you're familiar with me at least, so I'm very interested in what it is about FA's play and actions with regards to me that goes against your expectations for her interactions with scummates in the past.

That was me Mr. "Sakura's not contributing anything".
And no im not gonna elaborate as of right now, I dont plan on putting much effort atm.

[Cerberus v666]

Oh, and whoever decided that FA and I can't be scum together, please elaborate on that position. I don't believe you're familiar with me at least, so I'm very interested in what it is about FA's play and actions with regards to me that goes against your expectations for her interactions with scummates in the past.

That was me Mr. "Sakura's not contributing anything".
And no im not gonna elaborate as of right now, I dont plan on putting much effort atm.

That was your only contribution of value to date! And yeah, elaboration is actually bad at this moment, but in general it's information that should be shared in the event of FA!scum.