NY 213 - Game Over!

[Frozen Angel]

I'll catch up with this game after france game

Vive la france!!

[Hopkirk]

@Android- can you do a read list?

[Hopkirk]

We could also slot android in there at some point.

[Pine]

Meeep I'm in prod range and 15 pages down

@Mod: I really ought to have been V/LA for the past week, I've been busier with training than expected. I'll catch up over the weekend, pinky promise.

[Golden Robster]

Sorry if you already explained and I missed it but why is there an asterisk on Vax?

read on him is dependent on claim e.g if he claimed a50 kill

[Golden Robster]

ANSWER MINE FIRST

yes

if you really wanted to actually know you could of just checked my game history instead of being sarcastic

now answer my questions

[Golden Robster]

Now that we have the Vax vig situation sorted out, it seems like A50 was the likely scum kill. I went back to look at A50 to see if there were any clues there. He had an early strong scum read on Edo, but I'm not sure it carried over to Gamma. Towards the end of the day, it looked like he wasn't reading because he voted Ausuka after the IC announcement. He voted Android, and he was pushing people to vote either Performer or Android, but at the very end of day he started thinking that they were both town and that scum had manipulated us into 2 town wagons. Ugh. It still looks like a vig kill.

it's not a vig kill

what do you think of a50 kill after reading his ISO?

can you talk to me about why you think scum would nk a50?

[Golden Robster]

That's fair.

How about a KK wagon, followed by a wave wagon then an Arc wagon on the scumflip, then we try and sort the rest of the stuff out?

Or Wave could go first.

do you not have a preference for your scumreads in terms of lynch order?

talk to me about why wave and arc is scum?

you mentioned his meta, counter-wagon to performer and how he seems more engaged as town; do you still stand by these reasons?

[Golden Robster]

It's more than crumbing. It's a softclaim. The proper course of action is to run him up to L-1 immediately and force a hardclaim. But just like lynching lurkers, most people on MS don't play mafia correctly so I'm sure people will just be cool w/ letting a softclaim sit out there.

not sure why FL specified a day where he would be conftown

How’s this, guys? I’m going to conftown myself by the end of Day 4.

[Kublai Khan]

How about a KK wagon, followed by a wave wagon then an Arc wagon on the scumflip, then we try and sort the rest of the stuff out?

Uh, what's the point of having a wagon on me if you're going to tell me ahead of time that you don't really believe in it and you actually think wavemode is scum?

[Golden Robster]

Shamelessly sheeping powertown, choo choo

VOTE: JarJarDrinks

bleh post

[texcat]

Now that we have the Vax vig situation sorted out, it seems like A50 was the likely scum kill. I went back to look at A50 to see if there were any clues there. He had an early strong scum read on Edo, but I'm not sure it carried over to Gamma. Towards the end of the day, it looked like he wasn't reading because he voted Ausuka after the IC announcement. He voted Android, and he was pushing people to vote either Performer or Android, but at the very end of day he started thinking that they were both town and that scum had manipulated us into 2 town wagons. Ugh. It still looks like a vig kill.

it's not a vig kill

what do you think of a50 kill after reading his ISO?

can you talk to me about why you think scum would nk a50?

I thought I just did. Am I being that unclear? The simplest explanation for the kill is that scum did it. That's why I said he "was the likely scum kill". As for why, I didn't see any apparent reason (though I am always bad at picking out breadcrumbs), hence it still looked like a vig kill to me.

What do you think???

[Golden Robster]

I’m probably a super strong PR this game and lurking for that reason.

he's softclaiming a strong PR

if he's vt, then he's acting as a decent nk bait

if he's actually pr, then he's painting a big target on himself (unlikely)

if he's scum then he's bringing unneeded attention to himself by acting scummy and saying he'll be conftown

[JarJarDrinks]

gonna be VLA'ing very shortly. Please make sure fleaf answers this:

I’m playing in a way where scum would be stupid to kill me.

What way is that?

It's just is a total contridiction with soft claiming a PR.

pedit: yeah like how tf does that make any sense w/ the above quote?

[Hopkirk]

That's fair.

How about a KK wagon, followed by a wave wagon then an Arc wagon on the scumflip, then we try and sort the rest of the stuff out?

Or Wave could go first.

do you not have a preference for your scumreads in terms of lynch order?

talk to me about why wave and arc is scum?

you mentioned his meta, counter-wagon to performer and how he seems more engaged as town; do you still stand by these reasons?

'do you not have a preference for your scumreads in terms of lynch order?': I don't understand why you're asking this and would like to know what you mean?
For a brief answer though- yes I have a prefered lynch order. Of course a one vote wagon isn't a lynch and I'm not pushing exclusively one right now.

Yes. Other stuff too that I haven't gone over yet but should do eventually. I also still think the neighbourhood likely contains scum because most do.

How about a KK wagon, followed by a wave wagon then an Arc wagon

on the scumflip

, then we try and sort the rest of the stuff out?

Uh, what's the point of having a wagon on me if you're going to tell me ahead of time that you don't really believe in it and you actually think wavemode is scum?

^

[Golden Robster]

I thought I just did. Am I being that unclear? The simplest explanation for the kill is that scum did it. That's why I said he "was the likely scum kill". As for why, I didn't see any apparent reason (though I am always bad at picking out breadcrumbs), hence it still looked like a vig kill to me.

What do you think???

scum had multiple potential NK targets such as ausuka (conf town), wavemode (neighbour + possible PR) and vax (claimed vig and implied shooting me or wavemode)

why would they avoid all of this in favor of killing a50?

[Kublai Khan]

I’m probably a super strong PR this game and lurking for that reason.

he's softclaiming a strong PR

if he's vt, then he's acting as a decent nk bait

if he's actually pr, then he's painting a big target on himself (unlikely)

if he's scum then he's bringing unneeded attention to himself by acting scummy and saying he'll be conftown

Fine. I can think of a few exceptions to this but they feel a little far-off at the moment.

UNVOTE:

[Golden Robster]

I don't understand why you're asking this and would like to know what you mean?

I meant like lynch preference order but it's fine

VOTE: Wavemode

[JarJarDrinks]

VLA untill monday

[wavemode]

i would color the game like

Performer

Almost50

Osuka

Wavemode

Gamma Emerald

Ausuka

Frozen Angel

Vaxkiller

Creature

PenguinPower

EspeciallyTheLies

Myloninja13

Flavor Leaf

Dunnstral

Kublai Khan

Hopkirk

JarJarDrinks
WhemeStar
Pine
Lalendra

Andriod18

Texcat

Golden Robster

ArcAngel9

Scioness Sajj

[Flavor Leaf]

I crumb more as scum than town.

I’m probably a super strong PR this game and lurking for that reason.

I’m never getting lynched this game.

I can conftown myself this game.

I’m going to conftown myself by the end of Day 4.

That’s not me crumbing. That’s me getting cocky and obnoxious.

But i like the fire. That’s townie of you.

[Ausuka]

Don't prod me pls I'll get to this.

PP is still scummy and I'll write up why sometime. Lalendra is also scum; Vax is town and her hop on him is horrific.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m probably a super strong PR this game and lurking for that reason.

he's softclaiming a strong PR

if he's vt, then he's acting as a decent nk bait

if he's actually pr, then he's painting a big target on himself (unlikely)

if he's scum then he's bringing unneeded attention to himself by acting scummy and saying he'll be conftown

Ahhh...Classic Boon. I’m hilarious.

Yeah, it’s probably one of these or a mixture of multiple.

[Ausuka]

Can someone who was townreading KK explain why he's town please?

[Flavor Leaf]

Can someone who was townreading KK explain why he's town please?

Lol. JJ, I claim like five different roles every game. Regardless of alignment.

I’ll link you some games if you want, but I’m not going to go into circular reasoning for that stuff.