Yeah, I don't think I'm that shit to be less accurate than random.In post 247, Titus wrote:Unfortunately yes, but it is mathmatecially optimal not playing mafia for fun optimal.In post 244, Frozen Angel wrote:Are you trying to say that giving random people abilities is more optimal than giving one to my town reads?
Oh you met him lolIn post 248, Titus wrote:Hi. I don't think we've met. I'm the queen of votes and mechanics. I detest d1 because there is little of either. D1 is people trying to puff up themselves.In post 245, Toranaga wrote:FA, check #205 by titus. I find the flat out assumption that scum coordinated their votes to you strange. also her entire ISO is just these mechanical talking points that aren't solid towny thoughts.
hey it's your boy ufo. I thought you knew who I am on MS.In post 248, Titus wrote:Hi. I don't think we've met. I'm the queen of votes and mechanics. I detest d1 because there is little of either. D1 is people trying to puff up themselves.In post 245, Toranaga wrote:FA, check #205 by titus. I find the flat out assumption that scum coordinated their votes to you strange. also her entire ISO is just these mechanical talking points that aren't solid towny thoughts.
Ok ufo has a point hereIn post 205, Titus wrote:I voted for Drixx. I felt that him as leader makes him more readable and gets him to form reads earlier.
FA as leader, assuming scum could coordinate, suggests scum are at a minimum trusting of FA's judgement which is wierd
if the votes are spread out, regardless of some coordination taking place, we can't draw anything from it without flips. I don't think FA is scum and I don't think scum votes FA for thinking that's better for their faction without her being on it, so gun to my head there was either no coordination or the coordination didn't make a difference.In post 246, Chickadee wrote:In post 208, 123456789 wrote:They don’t have to coordinate.....In post 114, Chickadee wrote:In post 54, Human Sequencer wrote:i voted muffinman cuz he was doing a good job of leading town last game till somebody killed him
err, how?In post 42, Chickadee wrote:While we don't know wether or not scum got to talk pregame during voting, your post here reads like you know they didn't.
VOTE: toranagaIf they have pre-game chat, they would have coordinated. Do you disagree? This comment seems to disagree with that sentiment.In post 39, zMuffinMan wrote:pretty sure scum (at least if theyre smart) just voted whoever they thought they might vote as town and the majority of votes just happened to land on FACoordination does not have to mean pile votes.In post 229, Toranaga wrote:if scum voted you and you're town, they don't have to lie about it. the 3 people that voted you making you leader leads to me thinking scum votes were spread out to avoid associative reads, especially if you won with just 3 votes. wolves can have pregame chat AND not coordinate their votes in any way, cause that leaves a readable paper trail town can figure things out with.In post 226, Frozen Angel wrote:ok 3 people claimed they voted me That is way under than what I thought I had
either scum really didn't have a pregame chat - they decided to split vote and allow town to choose people - or they voted me cause they think they can control me
Coordination could also be spread votes out.
I'm not a big fan of anyone that's trying to discount coordination. But it the grand scheme of things, it's isn't really important D1.
Hmmmm . . . I hadn’t thought of that. I could definitely see how scum could WIFOM on that. Perhaps an optimal solution is a combo of pick and random, secret and open?In post 243, Titus wrote:Well if you pick and keep secret, the odds of picking one scum by chance are pretty high. If you're town, you could get blamed for it given scum think you are buddiable. If you're scum secret plus pick allows you to place buddies as PRs.In post 238, Frozen Angel wrote:what do you mean secret the prs? you mean my team? I'm not gonna announce who I'm gonna choose today. tomorrow I will out all players thoughIn post 232, Titus wrote:Yeah not much to do on that. There's two optimal approaches in my mindIn post 228, Frozen Angel wrote:or that they didn't want to do itIn post 227, Frozen Angel wrote:so it's about if scum thinks I'm stupid, frameable or they just couldn't coordinate this.
1) Random but secret the PRs or 2) Announce them.
Random neutralizes the threat to PRs and reduces buddying for power but makes blocking harder.
Announcing means buddying up the yin yang and harder to mske reads but easier to block with.
I don't get the last sentence and how is this related to my post though
If we do secret, it should be random to completely reduce the value of scum buddying you for power.
ok you could have in that case tried to engage with meIn post 206, Toranaga wrote:I didn't like that midget opened with that post and didn't follow up with anything, and saying "to be honest" can be a dishonety tell so I voted there. it doesn't amount to much but it's where I'm at.In post 202, Frozen Angel wrote:Toranaga explain that vote
SEE WHAT YOU PEOPLE HAVE ELECTEDIn post 236, Frozen Angel wrote:WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS VIVE LA FRANCE
In post 261, Randomnamechange wrote:SEE WHAT YOU PEOPLE HAVE ELECTEDIn post 236, Frozen Angel wrote:WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS VIVE LA FRANCE
DEMOCRACY HAS FAILED ONCE AGAIN
See you in the finale Yes, which is why I will never do it randomly. Unless if its random from a little group of people I have town reads on.In post 262, Sakura Hana wrote:It's obvious why the existance of a scum leader is good for the scum team, they would be able to know which players have superpowers.
As a town leader you're uninformed and may end up inadvertedly giving scum a superpower.
Suffice to say, I think im not gonna rely on PRs to find scum, that mechanic is swing af, and it also puts a lot of pressure on whoever the current leader is.
"But with great power, comes great responsibility"
I think that’s a really good strategy.In post 265, Frozen Angel wrote:Yes, which is why I will never do it randomly. Unless if its random from a little group of people I have town reads on.In post 262, Sakura Hana wrote:It's obvious why the existance of a scum leader is good for the scum team, they would be able to know which players have superpowers.
As a town leader you're uninformed and may end up inadvertedly giving scum a superpower.
Suffice to say, I think im not gonna rely on PRs to find scum, that mechanic is swing af, and it also puts a lot of pressure on whoever the current leader is.
"But with great power, comes great responsibility"
Alisae is mentioned in there for some reason. Otherwise, no clue.In post 267, Frozen Angel wrote:Anyone knows why mod keep saying "LEAGUE OF ALISAE" when announcing hero powers under his vcs?
The reason I'm asking it in the first place is that Alisae is mentioned there.In post 268, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Alisae is mentioned in there for some reason. Otherwise, no clue.In post 267, Frozen Angel wrote:Anyone knows why mod keep saying "LEAGUE OF ALISAE" when announcing hero powers under his vcs?
