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Post Post #2350 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:05 am

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I'll catch up with this game after france game

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Post Post #2351 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:05 am

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@Android- can you do a read list?
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Post Post #2352 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:06 am

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We could also slot android in there at some point.
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Post Post #2353 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:06 am

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Meeep I'm in prod range and 15 pages down

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Post Post #2354 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:10 am

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In post 2182, Lalendra wrote:Sorry if you already explained and I missed it but why is there an asterisk on Vax?
read on him is dependent on claim e.g if he claimed a50 kill
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Post Post #2355 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:12 am

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In post 2319, WhemeStar wrote:ANSWER MINE FIRST
yes

if you really wanted to actually know you could of just checked my game history instead of being sarcastic

now answer my questions
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Post Post #2356 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:15 am

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In post 2336, texcat wrote:Now that we have the Vax vig situation sorted out, it seems like A50 was the likely scum kill. I went back to look at A50 to see if there were any clues there. He had an early strong scum read on Edo, but I'm not sure it carried over to Gamma. Towards the end of the day, it looked like he wasn't reading because he voted Ausuka after the IC announcement. He voted Android, and he was pushing people to vote either Performer or Android, but at the very end of day he started thinking that they were both town and that scum had manipulated us into 2 town wagons. Ugh. It still looks like a vig kill.
it's not a vig kill

what do you think of a50 kill after reading his ISO?

can you talk to me about why you think scum would nk a50?
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Post Post #2357 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:21 am

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In post 2349, Hopkirk wrote:That's fair.

How about a KK wagon, followed by a wave wagon then an Arc wagon on the scumflip, then we try and sort the rest of the stuff out?

Or Wave could go first.
do you not have a preference for your scumreads in terms of lynch order?

talk to me about why wave and arc is scum?

you mentioned his meta, counter-wagon to performer and how he seems more engaged as town; do you still stand by these reasons?
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Post Post #2358 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:26 am

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In post 2325, JarJarDrinks wrote:It's more than crumbing. It's a softclaim. The proper course of action is to run him up to L-1 immediately and force a hardclaim. But just like lynching lurkers, most people on MS don't play mafia correctly so I'm sure people will just be cool w/ letting a softclaim sit out there.
not sure why FL specified a day where he would be conftown
In post 2242, Flavor Leaf wrote:How’s this, guys? I’m going to conftown myself by the end of Day 4.
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Post Post #2359 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:28 am

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In post 2349, Hopkirk wrote:How about a KK wagon, followed by a wave wagon then an Arc wagon on the scumflip, then we try and sort the rest of the stuff out?
Uh, what's the point of having a wagon on me if you're going to tell me ahead of time that you don't really believe in it and you actually think wavemode is scum?
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Post Post #2360 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:30 am

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In post 2334, Lalendra wrote:Shamelessly sheeping powertown, choo choo

VOTE: JarJarDrinks
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Post Post #2361 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:32 am

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In post 2356, Golden Robster wrote:
In post 2336, texcat wrote:Now that we have the Vax vig situation sorted out, it seems like A50 was the likely scum kill. I went back to look at A50 to see if there were any clues there. He had an early strong scum read on Edo, but I'm not sure it carried over to Gamma. Towards the end of the day, it looked like he wasn't reading because he voted Ausuka after the IC announcement. He voted Android, and he was pushing people to vote either Performer or Android, but at the very end of day he started thinking that they were both town and that scum had manipulated us into 2 town wagons. Ugh. It still looks like a vig kill.
it's not a vig kill

what do you think of a50 kill after reading his ISO?

can you talk to me about why you think scum would nk a50?
I thought I just did. Am I being that unclear? The simplest explanation for the kill is that scum did it. That's why I said he "was the likely scum kill". As for why, I didn't see any apparent reason (though I am always bad at picking out breadcrumbs), hence it still looked like a vig kill to me.

What do you think???
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Post Post #2362 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:35 am

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In post 2229, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m probably a super strong PR this game and lurking for that reason.
he's softclaiming a strong PR

if he's vt, then he's acting as a decent nk bait

if he's actually pr, then he's painting a big target on himself (unlikely)

if he's scum then he's bringing unneeded attention to himself by acting scummy and saying he'll be conftown
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Post Post #2363 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:36 am

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gonna be VLA'ing very shortly. Please make sure fleaf answers this:
In post 2282, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 2268, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m playing in a way where scum would be stupid to kill me.
What way is that?
It's just is a total contridiction with soft claiming a PR.

pedit: yeah like how tf does that make any sense w/ the above quote?
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Post Post #2364 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:39 am

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In post 2357, Golden Robster wrote:
In post 2349, Hopkirk wrote:That's fair.

How about a KK wagon, followed by a wave wagon then an Arc wagon on the scumflip, then we try and sort the rest of the stuff out?

Or Wave could go first.
do you not have a preference for your scumreads in terms of lynch order?

talk to me about why wave and arc is scum?

you mentioned his meta, counter-wagon to performer and how he seems more engaged as town; do you still stand by these reasons?
'do you not have a preference for your scumreads in terms of lynch order?': I don't understand why you're asking this and would like to know what you mean?
For a brief answer though- yes I have a prefered lynch order. Of course a one vote wagon isn't a lynch and I'm not pushing exclusively one right now.

Yes. Other stuff too that I haven't gone over yet but should do eventually. I also still think the neighbourhood likely contains scum because most do.
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In post 2349, Hopkirk wrote:How about a KK wagon, followed by a wave wagon then an Arc wagon
on the scumflip
, then we try and sort the rest of the stuff out?
Uh, what's the point of having a wagon on me if you're going to tell me ahead of time that you don't really believe in it and you actually think wavemode is scum?
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Post Post #2365 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:39 am

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In post 2361, texcat wrote:I thought I just did. Am I being that unclear? The simplest explanation for the kill is that scum did it. That's why I said he "was the likely scum kill". As for why, I didn't see any apparent reason (though I am always bad at picking out breadcrumbs), hence it still looked like a vig kill to me.

What do you think???
scum had multiple potential NK targets such as ausuka (conf town), wavemode (neighbour + possible PR) and vax (claimed vig and implied shooting me or wavemode)

why would they avoid all of this in favor of killing a50?
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Post Post #2366 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:42 am

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In post 2362, Golden Robster wrote:
In post 2229, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m probably a super strong PR this game and lurking for that reason.
he's softclaiming a strong PR

if he's vt, then he's acting as a decent nk bait

if he's actually pr, then he's painting a big target on himself (unlikely)

if he's scum then he's bringing unneeded attention to himself by acting scummy and saying he'll be conftown
Fine. I can think of a few exceptions to this but they feel a little far-off at the moment.

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Post Post #2367 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:47 am

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In post 2364, Hopkirk wrote:I don't understand why you're asking this and would like to know what you mean?
I meant like lynch preference order but it's fine

VOTE: Wavemode
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Post Post #2368 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:00 am

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VLA untill monday
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Post Post #2369 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:07 am

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Post Post #2370 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:53 am

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In post 2314, Golden Robster wrote:
In post 2310, Flavor Leaf wrote:I crumb more as scum than town.
In post 2229, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m probably a super strong PR this game and lurking for that reason.
In post 2234, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m never getting lynched this game.
In post 2240, Flavor Leaf wrote:I can conftown myself this game.
In post 2242, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m going to conftown myself by the end of Day 4.
That’s not me crumbing. That’s me getting cocky and obnoxious. :lol:

But i like the fire. That’s townie of you.
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Post Post #2371 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:55 am

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Don't prod me pls I'll get to this.

PP is still scummy and I'll write up why sometime. Lalendra is also scum; Vax is town and her hop on him is horrific.
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Post Post #2372 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:55 am

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In post 2362, Golden Robster wrote:
In post 2229, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m probably a super strong PR this game and lurking for that reason.
he's softclaiming a strong PR

if he's vt, then he's acting as a decent nk bait

if he's actually pr, then he's painting a big target on himself (unlikely)

if he's scum then he's bringing unneeded attention to himself by acting scummy and saying he'll be conftown

Ahhh...Classic Boon. I’m hilarious.

Yeah, it’s probably one of these or a mixture of multiple.
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Post Post #2373 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:56 am

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Can someone who was townreading KK explain why he's town please?
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Post Post #2374 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:58 am

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In post 2373, Ausuka wrote:Can someone who was townreading KK explain why he's town please?
Lol. JJ, I claim like five different roles every game. Regardless of alignment.

I’ll link you some games if you want, but I’m not going to go into circular reasoning for that stuff.
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