Heroes Wanted! (Game Over)

[Human Sequencer]

scum can't snipe a pr tonight

??

are u ok gamma

[Gamma Emerald]

OH I JUST REALIZED WHAT THAT MEANS AFTER POSTING THAT I'M AN IDIOT
WC = WORLD CUP
PEdit: I'm fine HS, dw bout me

[Nancy Drew 39]

I'm not a fan of non-fiction myself.

It depends on what it is though. I’ve got these books on cosmology, and neural consciousness and NDAs - riveting stuff.
Otherwise, I love to devour spec fiction.

[Human Sequencer]

ur not supposed to answe that question but I'm glad you're fine regardless

[Gamma Emerald]

Coordination does not have to mean pile votes.

Coordination could also be spread votes out.

This is true
Look at The Thing Mafia for counter-intuitive coordination (Andrius and MOI both picking the same number to distance)

[Nancy Drew 39]

Coordination does not have to mean pile votes.

Coordination could also be spread votes out.

This is true
Look at The Thing Mafia for counter-intuitive coordination (Andrius and MOI both picking the same number to distance)

Has anyone done a tally yet of who voted for whom yet? Maybe, there’s something useful in that.

[Cerberus v666]

Oh, and whoever decided that FA and I can't be scum together, please elaborate on that position. I don't believe you're familiar with me at least, so I'm very interested in what it is about FA's play and actions with regards to me that goes against your expectations for her interactions with scummates in the past.

That was me Mr. "Sakura's not contributing anything".
And no im not gonna elaborate as of right now, I dont plan on putting much effort atm.

That was your only contribution of value to date! And yeah, elaboration is actually bad at this moment, but in general it's information that should be shared in the event of FA!scum.

Why only FA!scum?

Because Cerb!scum isn't possible? Neglecting to include that possibility, which only exists for people who aren't me, WAS a very deliberate decision to see who noticed, so thanks! <3

Thoughts on 1-9's alignment based on this?

Nothing from this alone unfortunately. I don't have enough experience with this particular player to attach too much significance to it, I don't know if it's out of character or not. I like the fact that they questioned me on it, and the fact that the questioning was super neutral. Had they phrased it in a more aggressive/suspicious fashion, it would be cause for me to feel a bit suspicious of them...but again, in the absence of experience with their playstyle, I'd need to wait until later in the game to see how they handled other, similar situations, before having much certainty in my conclusions.

[Titus]

@Titus Because from my experience you're a good asset for town, and partially because I wanted to be chosen.

Why do you think I would choose you? Do you think being chosen is advantageous?

[Cerberus v666]

from my understanding of it FA should choose and announce it before night is called, and I think if the heroes can choose their abilities they should actually not instantly claim cause then wolves know what people they should PR hunt first.

but I'll leave the mechanics for those who have read the things properly instead of lazily skimming it.

Not seeing the advantage of FA telling us before nightfall? FA is immune from NKs overnight correct? She can tell us tomorrow unquestioningly I believe and give the scum no info on the heroes she chose. Am I missing something?

Does FA get a power herself or just the people she chooses?

Hi, this is a request for anyone with more experience with Sando to let me know if this nudge towards optimal play is in their range as scum on D1!

[Gamma Emerald]

FA, check #205 by titus. I find the flat out assumption that scum coordinated their votes to you strange. also her entire ISO is just these mechanical talking points that aren't solid towny thoughts.

Hi. I don't think we've met. I'm the queen of votes and mechanics. I detest d1 because there is little of either. D1 is people trying to puff up themselves.

Oh we finally get the reasoning for this
thank fuck

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm pretty sure purely random out of

5/22

is almost guaranteed to wind up with a scum. Purely random with a smaller number of people selected *might* be optimal, but really, I think that's a silly line to take.

huh?

[Gamma Emerald]

Everything private

hi
I'M AT V3 NOW

[Cerberus v666]

I'm pretty sure purely random out of

5/22

is almost guaranteed to wind up with a scum. Purely random with a smaller number of people selected *might* be optimal, but really, I think that's a silly line to take.

huh?

23 total....FA is one of them, so 22 remaining...she picks *5* OTHER players...so 5/22 can be selected at most.

[Titus]

Shouldn't we consider FA as random though?

[Cerberus v666]

Shouldn't we consider FA as random though?

Nope, because all this is only relevant if she's town. If she's scum she's PROBABLY not going to actually randomize, though she may claim to do so.

[Frozen Angel]

As I said the only way I might randomize is from a pool of people I townread.

We can even decide that pool by consulting about members I think

[Frozen Angel]

This feels smart at first glance (no way to screw this up since you're completely kill-immune) but what advantages are there really to this?

I was thinking it's a one night only power when I said that so I was thinking that way people will know who had the abilities and can hold them accountable for those later on.

I'm not sure if it's the right play now that I know I was wrong with my initial impression about this

[Frozen Angel]

Shouldn't we consider FA as random though?

?

[Frozen Angel]

I have a feeling that scums might get some secret abilities from these skills - something like the setting we made in nahdias civilization mafia last year. If anything this setup is really similar to that game with ability mechanics.

[Frozen Angel]

I have a feeling that scums might get some secret abilities from these skills - something like the setting we made in nahdias civilization mafia last year. If anything this setup is really similar to that game with ability mechanics.

I mean there are clearly 2 source for abilities - one is called "Leage of alisae".

Maybe there is another hidden league of something for scum

[Frozen Angel]

which if that's true it will make the public claiming of members a bit risky.

I need to think about the best way for handling things a bit more

[Cerberus v666]

As I said the only way I might randomize is from a pool of people I townread.

We can even decide that pool by consulting about members I think

Do you expect to townread a large enough number of people D1 that randomizing within that pool will have value?

pedit: Regarding mechanical stuff, based on the abilities on offer and the method by which we decide who gets powers or not, I think it's safe to assume that scum have a factional ability to have *at least* one additional kill/a strongman kill/a roleblock happen during a night. It's possible that they don't, and that we'll see vig powers in the near future, but I find it unlikely that the game would have the possibility of 6 always BP town being created on N1.

*shrug* Maybe I'm wrong though, idk. I was just thinking about whether or not it would be optimal to just have everyone select the BP thing and use it all the time to minimize scum's ability to safely take shots. Even if there is other stuff they can do, it might be best to do that anyways, since it should force the use of resources to secure kills at night, or else they risk gambling stuff? This would, of course, have to be combined with FA *not* claiming who is on her team N1. Just a thought, basically put no effort into it so Drixx and Titus and other people who see when things are mechanically bad ideas please tell me if it's a bad idea kthx.

[The Dream Weaver]

@mod - upon flip, would it be announced any powers players have/had

No.

@Mod if we learn an ability, is that ability permanent or is it just for one-night phase?

Permanent.

[NicoRobin]

@Titus Because from my experience you're a good asset for town, and partially because I wanted to be chosen.

Why do you think I would choose you? Do you think being chosen is advantageous?

1. Because you like me
2. Not neccessarily, I just want to be a neighborizer.

[Frozen Angel]

As I said the only way I might randomize is from a pool of people I townread.

We can even decide that pool by consulting about members I think

Do you expect to townread a large enough number of people D1 that randomizing within that pool will have value?

pedit: Regarding mechanical stuff, based on the abilities on offer and the method by which we decide who gets powers or not, I think it's safe to assume that scum have a factional ability to have *at least* one additional kill/a strongman kill/a roleblock happen during a night. It's possible that they don't, and that we'll see vig powers in the near future, but I find it unlikely that the game would have the possibility of 6 always BP town being created on N1.

*shrug* Maybe I'm wrong though, idk. I was just thinking about whether or not it would be optimal to just have everyone select the BP thing and use it all the time to minimize scum's ability to safely take shots. Even if there is other stuff they can do, it might be best to do that anyways, since it should force the use of resources to secure kills at night, or else they risk gambling stuff? This would, of course, have to be combined with FA *not* claiming who is on her team N1. Just a thought, basically put no effort into it so Drixx and Titus and other people who see when things are mechanically bad ideas please tell me if it's a bad idea kthx.

no I will probably fail at having 5 solid ones

what do you think with scum having a league of villans or something idea of me?