Heroes Wanted! (Game Over)

[Frozen Angel]

@Titus Because from my experience you're a good asset for town, and partially because I wanted to be chosen.

Why do you think I would choose you? Do you think being chosen is advantageous?

1. Because you like me
2. Not neccessarily, I just want to be a neighborizer.

what neighborize ability are you talking about?

[Frozen Angel]

this is true, but 5 people get a power
u can't kill them all, even if they don't land on scum

more importantly, it informs the decisions of future leaders

what do you mean by last sentence?

[Cerberus v666]

As I said the only way I might randomize is from a pool of people I townread.

We can even decide that pool by consulting about members I think

Do you expect to townread a large enough number of people D1 that randomizing within that pool will have value?

pedit: Regarding mechanical stuff, based on the abilities on offer and the method by which we decide who gets powers or not, I think it's safe to assume that scum have a factional ability to have *at least* one additional kill/a strongman kill/a roleblock happen during a night. It's possible that they don't, and that we'll see vig powers in the near future, but I find it unlikely that the game would have the possibility of 6 always BP town being created on N1.

*shrug* Maybe I'm wrong though, idk. I was just thinking about whether or not it would be optimal to just have everyone select the BP thing and use it all the time to minimize scum's ability to safely take shots. Even if there is other stuff they can do, it might be best to do that anyways, since it should force the use of resources to secure kills at night, or else they risk gambling stuff? This would, of course, have to be combined with FA *not* claiming who is on her team N1. Just a thought, basically put no effort into it so Drixx and Titus and other people who see when things are mechanically bad ideas please tell me if it's a bad idea kthx.

no I will probably fail at having 5 solid ones

what do you think with scum having a league of villans or something idea of me?

Possible, I don't know this moderator so I can't speculate about what they would or wouldn't have in the game. The fact that there are probably factionals other than the kill makes such a thing unnecessary, but it could happen. In Civ was the fact that scum could gain powers that weren't publicly announced as possibilities a publicly known fact about the game, even if exactly what those powers would be wasn't?

@Titus Because from my experience you're a good asset for town, and partially because I wanted to be chosen.

Why do you think I would choose you? Do you think being chosen is advantageous?

1. Because you like me
2. Not neccessarily, I just want to be a neighborizer.

what neighborize ability are you talking about?

The spirit medium I assume, it's a hood with a dead slot for the day/night after they died.

[NicoRobin]

@Titus Because from my experience you're a good asset for town, and partially because I wanted to be chosen.

Why do you think I would choose you? Do you think being chosen is advantageous?

1. Because you like me
2. Not neccessarily, I just want to be a neighborizer.

what neighborize ability are you talking about?

the one that'll come later, duh.

[Frozen Angel]

oh I actually get it now

we need at least one public candidate who will be tomorrows leader

[Frozen Angel]

Possible, I don't know this moderator so I can't speculate about what they would or wouldn't have in the game. The fact that there are probably factionals other than the kill makes such a thing unnecessary, but it could happen. In Civ was the fact that scum could gain powers that weren't publicly announced as possibilities a publicly known fact about the game, even if exactly what those powers would be wasn't?

yes in civ there were wonders that were only buildable by scum which were known and adoptable by scum so if they were chosen with some mechanic they could build them etc

It will make it more powerful than a 1 shot factional block or factional cop cause it will be perma

they might get a perma strongman or something out of that too

or abilities that might mess with leader voting itself

There are so many possibilities

[Frozen Angel]

The thing that made me theorize that is that there are 2 type of abilities:

BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE LEAGUE OF ALISAE
INFINITECH STANDARD

if you see the vcs

and no where it's confirmed we will have 6 abilities revealed per day

[Frozen Angel]

actually the number of 6 makes me wonder

@mod can two players learn the same ability?

[Cerberus v666]

Possible, I don't know this moderator so I can't speculate about what they would or wouldn't have in the game. The fact that there are probably factionals other than the kill makes such a thing unnecessary, but it could happen. In Civ was the fact that scum could gain powers that weren't publicly announced as possibilities a publicly known fact about the game, even if exactly what those powers would be wasn't?

yes in civ there were wonders that were only buildable by scum which were known and adoptable by scum so if they were chosen with some mechanic they could build them etc

It will make it more powerful than a 1 shot factional block or factional cop cause it will be perma

they might get a perma strongman or something out of that too

or abilities that might mess with leader voting itself

There are so many possibilities

So, again, the presence of those abilities as a possibility was known. When trying to figure out what happened mechanically, the players were aware that there were these scum options that they could have. That might be the case later on, but I don't think there will be abilities that they will have access to that we won't be aware of as possibilities. Doesn't seem to work with the whole minigame with having different abilities available that everyone knows are around. However, the fact that Im' pretty sure there are scum factionals kinda messes with the limited possibilities idea, so fuck if I know wtf is going on. I don't think we can actually constructively discuss the possible scum options at this point, other than to say things that it makes sense for scum to have...but we can't rule out things as stuff scum *won't* have.

pedit:@FA, yes they can, and they can learn them both inthe same night.

[Sakura Hana]

Dont mind me just letting you know that most stuff you're asking can be answered by reading the section about the mechanics.

The Incubation Chambers must be carefully prepared before each use. As such, the Superpowers available for acquisition will be made public at the beginning of each Day Phase.
2. I will only answer questions about a Superpower for the first Day and Night Phase after it has been revealed.

3. The Superpowers available for acquisition is always equivalent to six.

4. Iff a Lynch occurs, the Leader and each of their Superhero Teammates may select one Superpower of their choosing for acquisition by PM'ing the Moderator.
5. A player may only acquire up to one Superpower each Night Phase.
6. A Superpower may be acquired and used in the same Night Phase.

7. Multiple players may acquire the same Superpower.

8. There is no limit to the number of Superpowers a player may acquire throughout the game.
9. Unless otherwise specified, players may only use one Superpower per Night Phase. For Aspiring Villains, this is in addition to any factional abilities they may have (including their factional nightkill).
10. Factional Abilities for the Aspiring Villains are not treated as Superpowers.

[Frozen Angel]

I was not a player in civ I reviewed the game I don't remember if the wonders where known to town or not but I guess not

but yeah the conclusion will be scum might have anything and it's either factional or by abilities they can learn that town can't

[Frozen Angel]

I'm sorry it's late, I'm in bed and I'm phone posting or I would check op first

[The Dream Weaver]

Votecount 1.3

Leader: Frozen Angel

zMuffinMan (4):

BBmolla, Katsuki, Chickadee, Frozen Angel

123456789 (2):

brassherald, Titus

Cerberus v666 (1):

Sakura Hana

Human Sequencer (1):

123456789

Katsuki (1):

zMuffinMan

randomidget (1):

Toranaga

BBmolla (0):

brassherald (0):

Chickadee (0):

Drixx (0):

Gamma Emerald (0):

hebichan (0):

Kokichi Oma (0):

Myloninja13 (0):

Nancy Drew 39 (0):

Nico Robin (0):

Sakura Hana (0):

Sando (0):

Shiro (0):

the worst (0):

Titus (0):

Toranaga (0):

Not Voting (13):

Everyone Else

With

23

players, it takes

12

to lynch.
The day ends in (expired on 2018-07-15 18:00:00).

Abilities Available for Acquisition

BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE LEAGUE OF ALISAE

Impenetrable Skin:

You are protected from one killing action until the next Night Phase.

Siren's Call:

Target another player. That player will redirect any action(s) to target you instead of their original target until the next Night Phase.

INFINITECH STANDARD

Enhanced Hearing:

Target another player. You will learn if any actions were performed on that player during the current Night Phase.

Phasing:

Target another player. Any actions that target you before the next Night Phase will target them instead.

Power Mimicry:

Target another player. You will gain one use of any Superpower(s) they use before the end of next Day Phase. These 1-Shot Superpowers will be available to you until the end of the next Night Phase and still count against your Superpower usage.

Spiritual Mediumship:

Target a player that has died within the previous Day or Night Phase. You will have a neighborhood with that player for the following Day and Night Phase.

[hebichan]

I will renominate kokichi for leader tomorrow.

Other than that, I don't really need any power, but it would be nice to have one since I am town and I know my own alignment.

[hebichan]

I don't think its a good idea to out powered players until the time where we see an action taken that's negative utility.

Same reason you don't role claim.

If FA is dead by that point, (probably by nightkill, cause I townread FA so far), then that would kinda suck, yeah.

Maybe we should only out certain powers?For example, impenetrable skin is pretty harmless to town, so no need to out the player with it.


Siren's call can really mess up the gamestate if we're unaware who has it, same with power mimicry, same with phasing.


Spiritual Mediumship, Impenetrable Skin, and Enchanced Hearing should be unrevealed, but the others should be revealed imo.

[the worst]

OH NO I FORGOT TO BOOKMARK

[the worst]

Dunno, but scum having day chat and not pregame chat seems rather silly to me.

this could be the one and only game ever run on MS where scum didn't have pregame chat

seems likely

nailed it

[Nancy Drew 39]

I will renominate kokichi for leader tomorrow.

I want Cerb! *arm wrestles hebi*

[Nancy Drew 39]

Dunno, but scum having day chat and not pregame chat seems rather silly to me.

this could be the one and only game ever run on MS where scum didn't have pregame chat

seems likely

nailed it

You don’t think scum had a pregame chat? If that is the norm, why the exception here?

[the worst]

oh I interpreted Muffin's comment as brutal sarcasm
in which case I agree

if it was literal it was stupid

[the worst]

no offence if you were being literal Muffin phew I'm off to a good start

[the worst]

maybe I've been too deep in PYPX/Y land but it feels like a waste having such a neat mechanic if the informed minority can't utilise it property you know?

[Sando]

ok 3 people claimed they voted me That is way under than what I thought I had

either scum really didn't have a pregame chat - they decided to split vote and allow town to choose people - or they voted me cause they think they can control me

FA assuming you're town, do you think scum would have seen you as a big enough threat as leader to try and get someone else leader, town or scum? Do you think there's anyone in the player pool that scum might have wanted to NOT be leader?

Regarding the picks, you can semi-hide and still force them if we want. FA can pick 5 people, so they can outline 5 groups of ~4 (I think there's 22 not including FA) and say they'll pick one person in each group, and they can even define the power they should pick.

FA can also potentially pick Impenetrable skin, assuming scum only have the one NK for now, should get her through N2 and allow us to hold off claiming powers an extra day.

[the worst]

Sando thank you so much for rolling town with me

[the worst]

Good thing this isnt MU then.

We can have some of their good habits here

maybe that will help ms towns

nice burn