Heroes Wanted! (Game Over)

[The Dream Weaver]

Votecount 1.4

Leader: Frozen Angel

zMuffinMan (4):

BBmolla, Katsuki, Chickadee, Frozen Angel

123456789 (2):

brassherald, Titus

Cerberus v666 (1):

Sakura Hana

Katsuki (1):

zMuffinMan

randomidget (1):

Toranaga

Titus (1):

123456789

BBmolla (0):

brassherald (0):

Chickadee (0):

Drixx (0):

Gamma Emerald (0):

hebichan (0):

Human Sequencer (0):

Kokichi Oma (0):

Myloninja13 (0):

Nancy Drew 39 (0):

Nico Robin (0):

Sakura Hana (0):

Sando (0):

Shiro (0):

the worst (0):

Toranaga (0):

Not Voting (13):

Everyone Else

With

23

players, it takes

12

to lynch.
The day ends in (expired on 2018-07-15 18:00:00).

Abilities Available for Acquisition

BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE LEAGUE OF ALISAE

Impenetrable Skin:

You are protected from one killing action until the next Night Phase.

Siren's Call:

Target another player. That player's action(s) will be redirected to target you instead of their original target(s) until the next Night Phase.

INFINITECH STANDARD

Enhanced Hearing:

Target another player. You will learn if any actions were performed on that player during the current Night Phase.

Phasing:

Target another player. Any actions that target you before the next Night Phase will target them instead.

Power Mimicry:

Target another player. You will gain one use of any Superpower(s) they use before the end of next Day Phase. These 1-Shot Superpowers will be available to you until the end of the next Night Phase and still count against your Superpower usage.

Spiritual Mediumship:

Target a player that has died within the previous Day or Night Phase. You will have a neighborhood with that player for the following Day and Night Phase.

[Shiro]

FA, check #205 by titus. I find the flat out assumption that scum coordinated their votes to you strange. also her entire ISO is just these mechanical talking points that aren't solid towny thoughts.

Hi. I don't think we've met. I'm the queen of votes and mechanics. I detest d1 because there is little of either. D1 is people trying to puff up themselves.

hey it's your boy ufo. I thought you knew who I am on MS.

Whaaaaat I had no idea you ever were on Ms

[Shiro]

Oh man, and just when i was thinking of switching my vote, Cerb goes ahead and posts #353

Why is that?

[Frozen Angel]

FA assuming you're town, do you think scum would have seen you as a big enough threat as leader to try and get someone else leader, town or scum? Do you think there's anyone in the player pool that scum might have wanted to NOT be leader?

Sometimes I'm really a scary town: https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... e-Minimash

That is when I get a full grasp of the game state and have enough free time and discussions in the game to understand stuff. for example, in that game, I linked starting day 2 I caught 7/9 mafia team and hard cased the deepest ones and 2 3ps in a game that was very obviously scum sided and we won as the town. I got nommed for the best town for next award set on the mafia universe because of that.

But I guess no one but ufo or Titus in this game thinks I can do a game like that here though.

Any way I can see a decent percentage of players in this game not giving a fuck to give me the leader position assuming that I will ruin it.

[Frozen Angel]

the worst appeared and commented about the pregame chat thing and disappeared?!

[the worst]

btw not really fully here til marathon weekend is over but if anyone wants to hang out later this phase hmu :>

[the worst]

no strong feelings and my heart isn't here yet

[the worst]

how bout you FA?

[Frozen Angel]

Anyone knows why mod keep saying "LEAGUE OF ALISAE" when announcing hero powers under his vcs?

I think Alisae invents two of the powers while the mod had the rest pre-planned.

Isn't that bastard that a "future sub" player is secretly a part of mod team and is giving out powers on ms?

[Frozen Angel]

Even with a smaller number a biased opinion is nearly always equal or better to a random pick.

Are we sure about that? What is town's winrate here on Mafiascum (for normals)? I'm pretty sure it is fair bit under EV.

Yeah first those are not the same random things, one is about winning the game the other is about finding 5 town

Secondly, I would like to think so that way about myself. I won't surrender my decision to randomness

[Sando]

@Sando: universal BP is probably safest, but the fact that it exists does imply some degree of ease at bypassing it. The redirection is better as universal protection(or whatever you call it when you make actions that target you go elsewhere), but ONLY if the people using it only target consensus scum and/or lynchbait lurker types+we don't grab investigatives going forward. Sakura is correct that we have no way to test for someone taking BP, so any sort of plan we'd make with powers would have to assume that scum will not be following orders.

If we wanted to make this START as a functionally vanilla game, if we lynch town today everyone could pick the medium power, use that on the lynchee, and that would create a network of pts with a town center that would confirm everyone picked and used that power. That play sets up for some potentially very strong plays in the future, with repeated hero teams able to use that pt network to privately coordinate power selection, but it's dependent on the trust the dead slot has for the people it's communicating with, as well as the leaders ability to select a town group. There's also vulnerability to scum roleblocking used as a framing tool, but that would largely be a crapshoot.

I think the medium line has the greatest potential upside if executed perfectly, but is probably impractical.

So the reason for BP was mostly that it's fairly benign and protective, so giving it to scum isn't a big deal, and scum are always going to do whatever they want and lie about it, so "but scum might lie" is the basis for any system we establish. We can also do something like establish 6 BPs, then somehow get investigate clears on say 3 of them and protect the hell out of them while piling powers onto them. One of those protections might be something like a redirect onto one of the other BPs. If they lied about it, well they're going to die, if they didn't lie then they're helping town with their power. The other advantage of BP is it takes effect straight away, making scums ability to kill PRs really hard...

That said, as I mentioned, the other option I see is to just spread our powers as widely and thinly as possible so scum can't keep up with killing all the heroes, safety in numbers. That way we're basically putting huge amounts of data out there for us to sift through, sure some of it will be lies, but it's gonna be damn hard for scum to keep the lies straight, probably...

The bulletproof only protects from one kill?

I was reading as one kill per night, I think you're probably right though from what's been posted since then, making the BP plan not so great.

[Frozen Angel]

Impenetrable Skin: You are protected from one killing action until the next Night Phase.

@Mod can you clarify this ability? Is it an active ability getting activated every night (so one bp per night phase) or is it a passive ability protecting from 1 kill that same night phase?

[The Dream Weaver]

Impenetrable Skin: You are protected from one killing action until the next Night Phase.

@Mod can you clarify this ability? Is it an active ability getting activated every night (so one bp per night phase) or is it a passive ability protecting from 1 kill that same night phase?

It is an active ability that provides its effect whenever it is activated.

[hebichan]

VOTE: alisae
Being serious here, uhh I townread Sando so far, and FA, I think.

1-9 seems fine. As does Cerb.


I need more kokichi content to determine his alignment.

[Frozen Angel]

Impenetrable Skin: You are protected from one killing action until the next Night Phase.

@Mod can you clarify this ability? Is it an active ability getting activated every night (so one bp per night phase) or is it a passive ability protecting from 1 kill that same night phase?

It is an active ability that provides its effect whenever it is activated.

so it can be reused each night?

[Frozen Angel]

This seems it can be reused each night

[Titus]

Impenetrable Skin: You are protected from one killing action until the next Night Phase.

@Mod can you clarify this ability? Is it an active ability getting activated every night (so one bp per night phase) or is it a passive ability protecting from 1 kill that same night phase?

It is an active ability that provides its effect whenever it is activated.

Confirming the bp is a one shot and thus cannot be activated nightly?

[Frozen Angel]

how bout you FA?

I'm trying to find the grasp of the game state that I mentioned earlier.

I need more people talking in game atm for this to work

[The Dream Weaver]

Impenetrable Skin: You are protected from one killing action until the next Night Phase.

@Mod can you clarify this ability? Is it an active ability getting activated every night (so one bp per night phase) or is it a passive ability protecting from 1 kill that same night phase?

It is an active ability that provides its effect whenever it is activated.

Confirming the bp is a one shot and thus cannot be activated nightly?

Every Superpower is a permanent ability that can be reactivated. Nightly.

[The Dream Weaver]

I will now only be accepting further inquiries through PM.

Thank you for your understanding.

[Shiro]

But I guess no one but ufo or Titus in this game thinks I can do a game like that here though.

Hey D: I also believe in you.

[Frozen Angel]

But I guess no one but ufo or Titus in this game thinks I can do a game like that here though.

Hey D: I also believe in you.

<3 sorry

[Frozen Angel]

Any reads twinnie

[hebichan]

I'm here. Whatcha wanna talk about FA?

[Frozen Angel]

VOTE: alisae
Being serious here, uhh I townread Sando so far, and FA, I think.

1-9 seems fine. As does Cerb.


I need more kokichi content to determine his alignment.

talk about these reads a little bit

anyone else?