NY 213 - Game Over!

[Flavor Leaf]

Dat JJ/KK wagon on me. Much scum indeed.

[Flavor Leaf]

If I’m a PR, outwardly claiming like that, scum won’t think I’m a PR and will get WIFOM’d and not kill me.

If I’m a VT, I’m tryna act like a PR to get scum to potentially kill me.

I’m playing like mislynch bait, so scum doesn’t necessarily want to kill me, but they might because of the PR claim.

Classic Boon.


I WIFOM the entire scum team.

And you’re falling for it, hook, line, and stinker.

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, JJ is letting KK Kubla Khan some more. They’re taking turns. Classic scum buddy move.

[Flavor Leaf]

i would color the game like

Performer

Almost50

Osuka

Wavemode

Gamma Emerald

Ausuka

Frozen Angel

Vaxkiller

Creature

PenguinPower

EspeciallyTheLies

Myloninja13

Flavor Leaf

Dunnstral

Kublai Khan

Hopkirk

JarJarDrinks
WhemeStar
Pine
Lalendra

Andriod18

Texcat

Golden Robster

ArcAngel9

Scioness Sajj

While we have different reads for a decent amount of people, we are overlapping a good deal. I’m ultra paranoid, and I understand why people are scum reading you, but I think I’m going to start defending you more. I think it was an all town neighborhood.

[Flavor Leaf]

@GROB - I like your reasoning.

@KK - GET THAT VOTE BACK ON ME OR SO HELP ME! or so help me!

[Hopkirk]

@Khan: how does Android make you feel? You didn't mention him D1. What about Wave? Similar, but you attacking Performer/Ausuka while not saying anything negative of note.

[Gamma Emerald]

I can't remember where I was so I'll catch up when I can focus on this

[Hopkirk]

I like how Wave has you as more town than the confirmed IC.

[WhemeStar]

Man I want jar jar lynched but VOTE: Vax

Weird vote from someone who knows I play weird.

Talk to me wheme

I have no idea how you play

[WhemeStar]

ANSWER MINE FIRST

yes

if you really wanted to actually know you could of just checked my game history instead of being sarcastic

now answer my questions

Scum creature - never posts

Town creature - posts

[wavemode]

I like how Wave has you as more town than the confirmed IC.

but they're not really ordered, just grouped

[Kublai Khan]

@KK - GET THAT VOTE BACK ON ME OR SO HELP ME! or so help me!

If you flip town, you need to be policy WOTM out of every game.

[Kublai Khan]

@Khan: how does Android make you feel? You didn't mention him D1. What about Wave? Similar, but you attacking Performer/Ausuka while not saying anything negative of note.

I don't really see the case on Andriod18 besides ~lurking~ through Day 1. And yeah, he's guilty of that but so are a bunch of other. I feel a little better about Wavemode's output, but he's the third member of a neighborhood where the other two members were town PR. So that's nag in the back of my mind. Which is why I pitched that performer should venge-kill Wavemode.

[Dunnstral]

Jarjar thinks the scum team is 5 lurkers together

Not sure if that's actually scum or just super misguided and a distraction

[JarJarDrinks]

Jarjar thinks the scum team is 5 lurkers together

Not sure if that's actually scum or just super misguided and a distraction

Still VLA but no JJD doesn't think that.

[Ircher]

Day 2 VC #13

Creature (0) -
Kublai Khan (1) - Hopkirk (2346)
WhemeStar (1) - Vaxkiller (2343)
Hopkirk (0) -
EspeciallyTheLies (0) -
JarJarDrinks (5) - Andriod18 (2116), Flavor Leaf (2205), Dunnstral (2206), WhemeStar (2301), Lalendra (2334)
Andriod18 (2) - Pine (1936), Wavemode (2331)
Texcat (1) - ArcAngel9 (2072)
ArcAngel9 (1) - Texcat (1987)
Vaxkiller (0) -
Wavemode (1) - Golden Robster (2367)
PenguinPower (2) - Ausuka (1960), EspeciallyTheLies (1996)
Myloninja13 (2) - Creature (1941), PenguinPower (1947)
Scioness Sajj (0) -
Flavor Leaf (1) - JarJarDrinks (2327)
Not Voting (5) - Frozen Angel, Gamma Emerald, Scioness Sajj, Myloninja13, Kublai Khan (2366)

Lynch Threshold

During day 2, it takes 12 votes to lynch a player.

Deadline

Day 2 ends on July 14, 2018 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2018-07-14 20:00:00).

Moderator Notes

EspeciallyTheLies is V/LA for an indefinite time.

JarJarDrinks is V/LA until Monday, July 9, 2018.
If you notice any mistakes, please point them out. (That includes looking at the voting history.)

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Day 2

Dunnstral: Myloninja13 (1942) --> JarJarDrinks (2206)
Golden Robster: Hopkirk (2078) --> (Null) (2096) --> PenguinPower (2112) --> Scioness Sajj (2152) --> Vaxkiller (2171) --> (Null) (2288) --> Creature (2299) --> WhemeStar (2304) --> Wavemode (2367)
Pine: Andriod18 (1936)
Creature: Myloninja13 (1941)
Kublai Khan: Flavor Leaf (1944) --> (Null) (2366)
WhemeStar: Vaxkiller (2245) --> JarJarDrinks (2301)
Hopkirk: Andriod18 (2197) --> Kublai Khan (2346)

Ausuka

: PenguinPower (1960)
Lalendra: Vaxkiller (2184) --> JarJarDrinks (2334)
EspeciallyTheLies: PenguinPower (1996)
JarJarDrinks: Andriod18 (1945) --> EspeciallyTheLies (2041) --> (Null) (2066) --> Andriod18 (2192) --> Flavor Leaf (2327)
Andriod18: JarJarDrinks (2116)
Texcat: ArcAngel9 (1987)
ArcAngel9: Texcat (2072)
Vaxkiller: WhemeStar (2343)
Wavemode: Texcat (2044) --> Andriod18 (2331)
PenguinPower: Myloninja13 (1947)
Flavor Leaf: JarJarDrinks (2205)

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Day 1

Note: * = Hammer Vote

Note: ^ = Vote after hammer vote.

Dunnstral (5):

Osuka

(77) --> Texcat (1388) --> Lalendra (1623) -->

Osuka

(1758) -->

Performer

(1782)

Srceenplay

(0): (Null)

Performer

(5):

Osuka

(623) --> TheRampage (909) --> Wavemode (1051) --> Andriod18 (1765) -->

Performer

(1849)*

Joral

(0): (Null)

Almost50

(8): Hopkirk (97) --> Edosurist (226) -->

Osuka

(390) -->

Ausuka

(1205) --> (Null) (1304) --> Vaxkiller (1352) --> (Null) (1380) --> Andriod18 (1460)
Fumuki (0): (Null)
Golden Robster (13):

Almost50

(177) --> Wavemode (183) -->

Osuka

(236) -->

Ausuka (317)

--> JarJarDrinks (319) --> (Null) (546) --> Vaxkiller (602) --> (Null) (1504) --> Wavemode (1588) --> (Null) (1589) --> ArcAngel9 (1770) --> Andriod18 (1784) --> [[ost=1798](Null) (1798)[/post]
Pine (2):

Osuka

(176) --> Andriod18 (1835)
Creature (6):

Performer

(385) --> Myloninja13 (720) --> TheRampage (813) -->

Performer

(898) --> Andriod18 (1449) -->

Performer

(1846)
Kublai Khan (6):

Osuka

(76) -->

Almost50

(122) --> Scioness Sajj (388) --> JarJarDrinks (536) -->

Osuka

(725) -->

Performer

(957)
WhemeStar (3): Lalendra (234) --> JarJarDrinks (797) --> Flavor Leaf (955)
Hopkirk (9):

Osuka

(90) --> Lalendra (279) -->

Osuka

(696) --> (Null) (993) --> Wavemode (999) -->

Performer

(1273) --> (Null) (1315) -->

Performer

(1458) --> Andriod18 (1679)
Edosurist (2): Texcat (84) -->

Almost50

(222)
Gamma Emerald (3): Vaxkiller (710) --> Wavemode (1107) --> Andriod18 (1711) --> _{(Null) (1889)^}

Ausuka

(9): JarJarDrinks (89) --> Creature (104) --> Myloninja13 (429) --> (Null) (742) --> TheRampage (743) --> Wavemode (998) -->

Performer

(1604) --> Lalendra (1624) --> Andriod18 (1680)
Lalendra (3):

Almost50

(209) --> (Null) (559) -->

Performer

(1229)
EspeciallyTheLies (2):

Almost50

(83) -->

Performer

(515)
Lovebird (1): Edosurist (259)
Davesaz (1): Wavemode (1014)
Frozen Angel (3):

Performer

(1579) --> (Null) (1606) -->

Performer

(1814)
JarJarDrinks (8):

Osuka

(85) -->

Almost50

(114) --> Charles510 (186) --> Edosurist (231) -->

Osuka

(535) -->

Ausuka

(842) --> Wavemode (1112) --> Andriod18 (1410)

Osuka

(10): Wavemode (80) --> JarJarDrinks (124) --> ArcAngel9 (229) --> Pine (332) --> JarJarDrinks (353) -->

Performer

(769) --> TheRampage (771) -->

Performer

(1047) --> Vaxkiller (1359) -->

Performer

(1384)
Texcat (4):

Osuka

(79) --> Wavemode (1080) -->

Osuka

(1703) --> Andriod18 (1777)
Andriod18 (4): Kublai Khan (190) --> Lovebird (290) --> JarJarDrinks (855) -->

Performer

(1796)
ArcAngel9 (4): Texcat (81) --> TheRampage (223) --> Texcat (604) -->

Performer

(1397)
Charles510 (2): JarJarDrinks (87) --> (Null) (310)
Vaxkiller (8): JarJarDrinks (363) --> Scioness Sajj (389) --> Andriod18 (437) --> JarJarDrinks (532) --> Golden Robster (678) --> Wavemode (1078) --> TheRampage (1085) -->

Performer

(1116)
Wavemode (5): Texcat (82) --> Charles510 (131) --> (Null) (838) -->

Osuka

(867) -->

Performer

(1108)
TheRampage (3): Creature (100) --> (Null) (509) -->

Osuka

(681)
PenguinPower (1):

Performer

(1774)
Myloninja13 (4): Edosurist (233) --> JarJarDrinks (326) -->

Performer

(1554) --> Andriod18 (1787)
Scioness Sajj (4):

Ausuka

(406) --> (Null) (1325) -->

Performer

(1552) --> Andriod18 (1760)
Flavor Leaf (1): Andriod18 (1772)

Pre-Game

Dunnstral (2): Texcat (9) --> Pine (43)

Srceenplay

(1): Andriod18 (62)
Pine (1):

Osuka

(16)
Kublai Khan (1): Pine (34)
Hopkirk (1):

Osuka

(66)
Edosurist (1): Pine (42)

Osuka

(2): Pine (28) --> Wavemode (33)
Texcat (1): Pine (44)
Wavemode (1):

Osuka

(31)

[Andriod18]

Also, are you implying that I said that as a reason for people to vote for you? That clearly had NOTHING to do with you.

I implied no such thing but of course you're gonna twist it like that

here is you implying it:

You acting like you lynch more scum than town so you should have more say in your reads is laughable and something I don't see why town would need to say instead of explaining why I'm scum

I mean, you're more than implying it. You're p much outright stating it.

Any response?

I'm saying that you saying that you lynch more scum than town means people should listen to you more and I dislike that. I'm not implying that has to do with me I just mean that as a statement in general

[Andriod18]

Oh another ugly naked vote from wavemode. :/

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Now that we have the Vax vig situation sorted out, it seems like A50 was the likely scum kill. I went back to look at A50 to see if there were any clues there. He had an early strong scum read on Edo, but I'm not sure it carried over to Gamma. Towards the end of the day, it looked like he wasn't reading because he voted Ausuka after the IC announcement. He voted Android, and he was pushing people to vote either Performer or Android, but at the very end of day he started thinking that they were both town and that scum had manipulated us into 2 town wagons. Ugh. It still looks like a vig kill.

---

Could we get some pressure on ArcAngel please? Her vote on Performer was definitely the worst of the lot. She's due for her prod dodge this afternoon, it would be nice for her to see some votes when she pops in.

JarJar, Your reads list omitted Golden Robster, Hopkirk, Gamma, and Frozen Angel. Why did you omit those 4?

Scumread on tex is now a townread.

[Flavor Leaf]

@KK - GET THAT VOTE BACK ON ME OR SO HELP ME! or so help me!

If you flip town, you need to be policy WOTM out of every game.

I mean, you know, been here for 4+ years, win the majority of my scum games, heard this multiple times, doesn’t stop me from solving games/fooling people as scum :shrug:

[Kublai Khan]

@KK - GET THAT VOTE BACK ON ME OR SO HELP ME! or so help me!

If you flip town, you need to be policy WOTM out of every game.

I mean, you know, been here for 4+ years, win the majority of my scum games, heard this multiple times, doesn’t stop me from solving games/fooling people as scum :shrug:

I don't believe you. I can't believe you.

Look, this isn't real life. I can't look at your face for visual cues as to whether or not you're joking around or not. I have to read your words and either take them at face value or not. This is why the "Lynch all Liars" policy is the best policy. If everyone in the game is 100% truthful all the time, then town is more likely to win.

If you're town, you're more interested in winning a scum game in the future by setting a meta of being a liar now. That's shitty. It doesn't respect the time, energy, and frustration I'm putting into this game over the days and weeks. If you're scum, you've set the set bar low so that you can say or do whatever and town are fools for letting you get away with it.

You're so self-serving that you're Scrappy-Doo.

[wavemode]

Why are people scumreading KK? I think I missed what the reasoning for that was

[Gamma Emerald]

JarJarDrinks (5) - Andriod18 (2116), Flavor Leaf (2205), Dunnstral (2206), WhemeStar (2301), Lalendra (2334)

eh
why is this the lead wagon?

[Flavor Leaf]

@KK - GET THAT VOTE BACK ON ME OR SO HELP ME! or so help me!

If you flip town, you need to be policy WOTM out of every game.

I mean, you know, been here for 4+ years, win the majority of my scum games, heard this multiple times, doesn’t stop me from solving games/fooling people as scum :shrug:

I don't believe you. I can't believe you.

Look, this isn't real life. I can't look at your face for visual cues as to whether or not you're joking around or not. I have to read your words and either take them at face value or not. This is why the "Lynch all Liars" policy is the best policy. If everyone in the game is 100% truthful all the time, then town is more likely to win.

If you're town, you're more interested in winning a scum game in the future by setting a meta of being a liar now. That's shitty. It doesn't respect the time, energy, and frustration I'm putting into this game over the days and weeks. If you're scum, you've set the set bar low so that you can say or do whatever and town are fools for letting you get away with it.

You're so self-serving that you're Scrappy-Doo.

Sure, but I don’t lie, so that doesn’t apply. I never say I for sure am, just probably.

[Flavor Leaf]

You’re just commenting without seeing how I actually do things, so anything you comment on my play will end up being moot.

I have my own style, it gets results. There are many games I end up being town leader in. To be fair, I’ve done some crazy shit as scum, and people know gat nothing is out of my scum range anymore so i have people constantly paranoid, but those same people will know that I can hard carry a game if I’m town. I prefer not to do that. I prefer if we as town can just work together. I’ll do what I can to ease it. I always do.

I’m even explaining everything clearly here. You assume my playstyle is a certain way just by assuming. I put a lot of analysis and thought into games, which is why i have to put some real sitdown time in.

[Flavor Leaf]

JarJarDrinks (5) - Andriod18 (2116), Flavor Leaf (2205), Dunnstral (2206), WhemeStar (2301), Lalendra (2334)

eh
why is this the lead wagon?

Cuz JJD is pulling an Unah, and made a completely political reads list on top of pushing a scum motivation, and then KK chainsaw defended, and then JJ chainsawed the chainsaw however tried to bus KK, but not enough to want to vote there. So the fake distance alongside the political reads and survivalistic nature, basically.