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Post Post #525 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:20 am

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In post 523, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 507, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 505, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 500, Frozen Angel wrote:can you write one sentence for each
Can? Sure.
Will I? Nah.

Don't feel interested enough to defend any TR or SR yet, much rather see if anyone notices what im noticing.
oh yeah I forgot about that late-game only elaboration policy
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Post Post #526 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:23 am

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In post 2488, Sakura Hana wrote:I'm definitely not repeating that day 1 again.
And so what im doing in this game was born.
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Post Post #527 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:25 am

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In post 526, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 2488, Sakura Hana wrote:I'm definitely not repeating that day 1 again.
And so what im doing in this game was born.
I'm not reading that so can you explain this?
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Post Post #528 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:26 am

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In post 524, Toranaga wrote:
In post 523, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 507, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 505, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 500, Frozen Angel wrote:can you write one sentence for each
Can? Sure.
Will I? Nah.

Don't feel interested enough to defend any TR or SR yet, much rather see if anyone notices what im noticing.
oh yeah I forgot about that late-game only elaboration policy
MEH if it's a playstyle thing I'll give it a pass but I'm not happy about it
why would you give it a pass if you're not happy about it? do you think it's wolfy, even if it's a playstyle thing?
I think it's a wolfy mindset but since it seems to be a playstyle thing I'm willing to forgive, as long as it doesn't remain a problem
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Post Post #529 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:26 am

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In post 515, Toranaga wrote:I don't wanna be the one pushing nancy cause reasons but she pings me as scum since very early and quite a lot.
Based on? You also thought that Acid had valid reasons to wolfread me in the light game. I wasn’t scum there and I’m not here either.

I’m sure you wish I was though. Sorry to disapoint.
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Post Post #530 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:30 am

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In post 529, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 515, Toranaga wrote:I don't wanna be the one pushing nancy cause reasons but she pings me as scum since very early and quite a lot.
Based on? You also thought that Acid had valid reasons to wolfread me in the light game. I wasn’t scum there and I’m not here either.

I’m sure you wish I was though. Sorry to disapoint.
I didn't play that game and all I said was that acid wasn't
nasty
or
treated you viciously
. I could care less what his read looked like, but I'm defending his right to say everything he said about you without being misrepresented as a nasty vicious player. everyone who read his posts agree with me.

anyway let's not do this? I'm trying to avoid it. if you're town I'll figure out soon enough and I have absolutely 0 wanting of you being a wolf or whatever.
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Post Post #531 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:33 am

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In post 522, Toranaga wrote:
In post 517, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 515, Toranaga wrote:I don't wanna be the one pushing nancy cause reasons but she pings me as scum since very early and quite a lot.
I find her invested and genuine actually. can you elaborate?
she is certainly invested, but a lot of her thoughts are mechanics that I'm not sure nancy would be that interested in as town, and she has yet to push a scumread from my recollection of her posts, which strikes me as odd for nancy and just trying to blend in.
Why should’t I be interested in mechanics? How much of that light game did you actually read? I mistakenly scumread players early on without good reasons and got mislynched for my troubles.

I very rarely form strong scumreads this early in the game. Team Mafia was one of the few exceptions to this.

Why should it surprise you that I’m not eager to repeat that mistake?
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Post Post #532 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:33 am

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In post 526, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 2488, Sakura Hana wrote:I'm definitely not repeating that day 1 again.
And so what im doing in this game was born.
Okay. So this, along with the "deliberately ignoring thing", ping me pretty hard. Normally, when someone looks at a post I made and chooses to ignore all of it except one part, they just do so without the snarky comment included. This generally results in them getting pushed more about the part they ignored by myself, and anyone else who was interested in the point(s) I raised.

I see deliberately calling out the fact that she ignored the rest of the post as an attempt to preempt said pushing. I was debating whether to ask if that bit of flavor in Sakuras post was characteristic of her posting style, or if it had a good chance of being preemptive scum deflection, but this last post seems to support my position . Here Sakura is again, preempting questioning about her reason for playing the way she is, by posting a link and a joke. She already said it was because of a game in the past, nobody asked for a link to the game or anything, but here she is ready to justify what she's doing before the conversation gets too deep into whether her behavior is anti-town or not.
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Post Post #533 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:35 am

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In post 530, Toranaga wrote:
In post 529, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 515, Toranaga wrote:I don't wanna be the one pushing nancy cause reasons but she pings me as scum since very early and quite a lot.
Based on? You also thought that Acid had valid reasons to wolfread me in the light game. I wasn’t scum there and I’m not here either.

I’m sure you wish I was though. Sorry to disapoint.
I didn't play that game and all I said was that acid wasn't
nasty
or
treated you viciously
. I could care less what his read looked like, but I'm defending his right to say everything he said about you without being misrepresented as a nasty vicious player. everyone who read his posts agree with me.

anyway let's not do this? I'm trying to avoid it. if you're town I'll figure out soon enough and I have absolutely 0 wanting of you being a wolf or whatever.
I mean that you probably wish I wasn’t in this game, amirite? :(
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Post Post #534 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:36 am

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Sure cerb, whatever floats your little pirate ship.
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Post Post #535 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:39 am

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In post 533, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 530, Toranaga wrote:
In post 529, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 515, Toranaga wrote:I don't wanna be the one pushing nancy cause reasons but she pings me as scum since very early and quite a lot.
Based on? You also thought that Acid had valid reasons to wolfread me in the light game. I wasn’t scum there and I’m not here either.

I’m sure you wish I was though. Sorry to disapoint.
I didn't play that game and all I said was that acid wasn't
nasty
or
treated you viciously
. I could care less what his read looked like, but I'm defending his right to say everything he said about you without being misrepresented as a nasty vicious player. everyone who read his posts agree with me.

anyway let's not do this? I'm trying to avoid it. if you're town I'll figure out soon enough and I have absolutely 0 wanting of you being a wolf or whatever.
I mean that you probably wish I wasn’t in this game, amirite? :(
P.edit not everyone, not by a fucking longshot. But I don’t want to rehash how much you hate me. You’ve more that made that more than abundantly clear (not here obviously). I don’t want to get into trouble with the mods, so I had better shut up now.
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Post Post #536 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:40 am

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In post 531, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 522, Toranaga wrote:
In post 517, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 515, Toranaga wrote:I don't wanna be the one pushing nancy cause reasons but she pings me as scum since very early and quite a lot.
I find her invested and genuine actually. can you elaborate?
she is certainly invested, but a lot of her thoughts are mechanics that I'm not sure nancy would be that interested in as town, and she has yet to push a scumread from my recollection of her posts, which strikes me as odd for nancy and just trying to blend in.
Why should’t I be interested in mechanics? How much of that light game did you actually read? I mistakenly scumread players early on without good reasons and got mislynched for my troubles.

I very rarely form strong scumreads this early in the game. Team Mafia was one of the few exceptions to this.

Why should it surprise you that I’m not eager to repeat that mistake?
so the two games I know you from are the games you pushed people early on. you're not doing the same here, so I'm finding it uncharacteristic. I also have a very good idea of how you think based off team mafia discord chat and I'm yet to see any sign of similar behaviour here.

are you holding onto your scumreads so you don't mistakenly push people when you're wrong? I'd advise against it. I'd rather see some real villagery thought processes from you that aren't right but move the game forward rather than the cautious approach of mechanical talk and easy meta reads.
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Post Post #537 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:42 am

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Hi. Nancy, I don't think theres anything positive that comes from a conversation that includes you suggesting that another player wishes you weren't in the game. Maybe you guys can just table whatever this problem is, and discuss it at another time/through another medium, one where you aren't playing a game where manipulation is part of how things are done.
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Post Post #538 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:43 am

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In post 532, Cerberus v666 wrote:
In post 526, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 2488, Sakura Hana wrote:I'm definitely not repeating that day 1 again.
And so what im doing in this game was born.
Okay. So this, along with the "deliberately ignoring thing", ping me pretty hard. Normally, when someone looks at a post I made and chooses to ignore all of it except one part, they just do so without the snarky comment included. This generally results in them getting pushed more about the part they ignored by myself, and anyone else who was interested in the point(s) I raised.

I see deliberately calling out the fact that she ignored the rest of the post as an attempt to preempt said pushing. I was debating whether to ask if that bit of flavor in Sakuras post was characteristic of her posting style, or if it had a good chance of being preemptive scum deflection, but this last post seems to support my position . Here Sakura is again, preempting questioning about her reason for playing the way she is, by posting a link and a joke. She already said it was because of a game in the past, nobody asked for a link to the game or anything, but here she is ready to justify what she's doing before the conversation gets too deep into whether her behavior is anti-town or not.
I love that sakura is being pushed for this and find your reasoning extremely villagery from you, and I was villa reading your posting before anyway so this is cool. I don't know if I agree with this, though. I don't think sakura is necessarily doing what she is doing as an excuse to not work on the game, but rather because she is the kind of individualistic millennial generation type of player. I'm sure she'll start posting reads as the game progresses regardless of her rand.
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Post Post #539 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:49 am

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In post 536, Toranaga wrote:
In post 531, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 522, Toranaga wrote:
In post 517, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 515, Toranaga wrote:I don't wanna be the one pushing nancy cause reasons but she pings me as scum since very early and quite a lot.
I find her invested and genuine actually. can you elaborate?
she is certainly invested, but a lot of her thoughts are mechanics that I'm not sure nancy would be that interested in as town, and she has yet to push a scumread from my recollection of her posts, which strikes me as odd for nancy and just trying to blend in.
Why should’t I be interested in mechanics? How much of that light game did you actually read? I mistakenly scumread players early on without good reasons and got mislynched for my troubles.

I very rarely form strong scumreads this early in the game. Team Mafia was one of the few exceptions to this.

Why should it surprise you that I’m not eager to repeat that mistake?
so the two games I know you from are the games you pushed people early on. you're not doing the same here, so I'm finding it uncharacteristic. I also have a very good idea of how you think based off team mafia discord chat and I'm yet to see any sign of similar behaviour here.

are you holding onto your scumreads so you don't mistakenly push people when you're wrong? I'd advise against it. I'd rather see some real villagery thought processes from you that aren't right but move the game forward rather than the cautious approach of mechanical talk and easy meta reads.
Sorry if If I overracted but you have no idea how much what you said re: Acid hurts me. I don’t think you will ever get it.

You caanot possibly compare Discord chat with an actual game. No one is scumreading me in there. I can get kicked out from there but not mislynched.
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Post Post #540 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:50 am

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In post 538, Toranaga wrote:find your reasoning extremely villagery from you
Really?
I thought that was the scummiest post in this entire game.
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Post Post #541 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:57 am

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In post 537, Cerberus v666 wrote:Hi. Nancy, I don't think theres anything positive that comes from a conversation that includes you suggesting that another player wishes you weren't in the game. Maybe you guys can just table whatever this problem is, and discuss it at another time/through another medium, one where you aren't playing a game where manipulation is part of how things are done.
I’m sorry Cerb but UFO knows how deeply this is a sore spot for me. I even made a thread about it at MU. I also know what he’s saying about how
everyone
is viewing Acid read on me is bs. But I don’t want I don’t want to drag the game down with that. I really hope that UFO can put our issues aside for the sake of solving this game. I certainly hope so anyway.
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Post Post #542 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:18 am

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In post 519, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 501, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 463, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 342, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 338, hebichan wrote:I will renominate kokichi for leader tomorrow.
I want Cerb! *arm wrestles hebi* :P
I will renom Kokichi unless I deem it inappropriate
In post 466, 123456789 wrote:
In post 428, Katsuki wrote:I'll act as a second flavour mod since someone used a post restriction power on me that forces me to have to post a youtube vid in each post. It's rather obnoxious so I'll probably just make empty flavour posts.

[]BVGUA5vLsl8[/]
95% sure you are lying as everyone started vanilla, and I find it doubtful has a post restriction pre-game ability. Besides, if they did, why would the use it on you if all people?
Why would anyone make something like this up?
Because it excuses a lack of readable content?
Oh sorrry, I missed this. I see your point. What do you make of Muffin defending it then?
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Post Post #543 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:27 am

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seems reasonable, in my opinion
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Post Post #544 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:31 am

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In post 542, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 519, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 501, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 463, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 342, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 338, hebichan wrote:I will renominate kokichi for leader tomorrow.
I want Cerb! *arm wrestles hebi* :P
I will renom Kokichi unless I deem it inappropriate
In post 466, 123456789 wrote:
In post 428, Katsuki wrote:I'll act as a second flavour mod since someone used a post restriction power on me that forces me to have to post a youtube vid in each post. It's rather obnoxious so I'll probably just make empty flavour posts.

[]BVGUA5vLsl8[/]
95% sure you are lying as everyone started vanilla, and I find it doubtful has a post restriction pre-game ability. Besides, if they did, why would the use it on you if all people?
Why would anyone make something like this up?
Because it excuses a lack of readable content?
Oh sorrry, I missed this. I see your point. What do you make of Muffin defending it then?
I think it weird that despite voting there he seems to be calling it town? Not sure if him being so erratic is scummy though.
In post 543, zMuffinMan wrote:seems reasonable, in my opinion
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Post Post #545 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:56 am

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@Katsuki, is this a mod thing or something connected with your role? Afaik, no roles or powers have been given out yet, so how do you account for it?
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Post Post #546 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:59 am

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In post 506, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 468, Titus wrote:
In post 358, Sakura Hana wrote:Oh man, and just when i was thinking of switching my vote, Cerb goes ahead and posts #353
It does seem rather hinky. It's rather unlike Cerb to suppose town can just keep 6 people alive indefinitely and that FA would automatically trust him. Seems exactly why scum would let FA be a leader. Town!Cerb is more of a critical thinker than that. Town!Cerb would also consider the possibility of a factionsl strongman.

VOTE: Cerb
I dunno. I think Cerb is likely town here based on meta. Where do you get that scum wanted FA to be a leader? It looked like a mostly town vote to me. Why would you think FA’s being a leader is primarily scum motivated?
Basic math. 5 scum. If scum didn't want FA to be leader, they coordinate on someone else. FA has received fewer than 5 votes claimed. The Day 1 leader is always scum motivated. (Note: That does not mean FA scum).

Cerb acting as if he cannot die is rather scummy. A town Cerb considers that a) There might be a factional strongman b) That FA might read him as scum incorrectly and thus not give him a vest or c) imply she would give cerb a vest to protect more town reads but scum shoot Cerb anyway.
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Post Post #547 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:02 am

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In post 538, Toranaga wrote:
In post 532, Cerberus v666 wrote:
In post 526, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 2488, Sakura Hana wrote:I'm definitely not repeating that day 1 again.
And so what im doing in this game was born.
Okay. So this, along with the "deliberately ignoring thing", ping me pretty hard. Normally, when someone looks at a post I made and chooses to ignore all of it except one part, they just do so without the snarky comment included. This generally results in them getting pushed more about the part they ignored by myself, and anyone else who was interested in the point(s) I raised.

I see deliberately calling out the fact that she ignored the rest of the post as an attempt to preempt said pushing. I was debating whether to ask if that bit of flavor in Sakuras post was characteristic of her posting style, or if it had a good chance of being preemptive scum deflection, but this last post seems to support my position . Here Sakura is again, preempting questioning about her reason for playing the way she is, by posting a link and a joke. She already said it was because of a game in the past, nobody asked for a link to the game or anything, but here she is ready to justify what she's doing before the conversation gets too deep into whether her behavior is anti-town or not.
I love that sakura is being pushed for this and find your reasoning extremely villagery from you, and I was villa reading your posting before anyway so this is cool. I don't know if I agree with this, though. I don't think sakura is necessarily doing what she is doing as an excuse to not work on the game, but rather because she is the kind of individualistic millennial generation type of player. I'm sure she'll start posting reads as the game progresses regardless of her rand.
I find you both are acting arrogant and fail to understand relevance. Everyone, even me, selectively responds. Why and to what reveal alignment. By jumping to the scum conclusion, it's not hunting but a straw man. For d1 it might get something to start the game but nothing to get mighty over. Sakura probably town.
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Post Post #548 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:11 am

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In post 542, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 519, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 501, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 463, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 342, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 338, hebichan wrote:I will renominate kokichi for leader tomorrow.
I want Cerb! *arm wrestles hebi* :P
I will renom Kokichi unless I deem it inappropriate
In post 466, 123456789 wrote:
In post 428, Katsuki wrote:I'll act as a second flavour mod since someone used a post restriction power on me that forces me to have to post a youtube vid in each post. It's rather obnoxious so I'll probably just make empty flavour posts.

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95% sure you are lying as everyone started vanilla, and I find it doubtful has a post restriction pre-game ability. Besides, if they did, why would the use it on you if all people?
Why would anyone make something like this up?
Because it excuses a lack of readable content?
Oh sorrry, I missed this. I see your point. What do you make of Muffin defending it then?
The PR is probably fake. I've faked a PR as both alignments. Just the action is not optimal scum to be real.
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Post Post #549 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:15 am

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Furthermore, the BP option ensures no investigatives.
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