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Post Post #2425 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:04 pm

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In post 2419, Ausuka wrote:heyyyy I'm really bad and need to get to this game. correct me if I'm wrong but nobody has told me why KK was town? feels like loads of ppl TR'd him, and I don't really know why.
reading KK as town because d1 play comprised of him scum-hunting and generating content through aggressive and blunt questioning

even though he was one of the first people on performer wagon nothing pinged me with his reasoning d1 and he was wishy-washy on that read stating he wanted to switch to wavemode

if anything it's a continuation from d1
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Post Post #2426 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:05 pm

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In post 2421, Vaxkiller wrote:You guys really think wheme is town here?
What makes you SR wheme?
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Post Post #2427 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:06 pm

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In post 2423, Kublai Khan wrote:VOTE: Vaxkiller
why?
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Post Post #2428 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:10 pm

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In post 2402, Kublai Khan wrote:You skip Day 1 except to brag about how you're not reading yet. You comment a little bit on things, but you don't actually put your vote anywhere until the last minute.
You've made hard and soft PR claims and then took them back. (Maybe? Sort of?)
You say that the lynchee will flip town (which is easy enough to predict as scum).
You vote JarJarDrinks with the explanation that his reads are political. I ask you to clarify, you refuse and change the topic.
In fact, you link me with JarJarDrinks because I'm "chainsaw defending" him.
Last I checked, chainsaw defending means that as scum I'm attacking you out of the blue because I'm defending a scum-partner. But I told you at the end of Day 1 that I would come after you Day 2, and I did regardless of your actions.

So for all the braggadocio of how awesome you are at manipulating people and at analysis. You've got 2 scum reads (one of which I know for a fact is town), and your analysis is a shitty "he seems scummy". So yeah, congrats. I'm definitely not getting behind you as a town leader. Mission accomplished on that.

Where's you reads on the game? Your promised analysis? You've had no comment on Pine all game? Lalendra? Myloninja13?

Where's your reads list, you day 1 lurker? (3rd time asking)
over-exaggerated, melodramatic and being excessive in this post

think this post is trying to produce a reaction and I TR it
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Post Post #2429 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:19 pm

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In post 2396, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2390, Ircher wrote:JarJarDrinks (5) - Andriod18 (2116), Flavor Leaf (2205), Dunnstral (2206), WhemeStar (2301), Lalendra (2334)
eh
why is this the lead wagon?
In post 2401, Gamma Emerald wrote:I am highly confused but ok
it just never popped up as something people were scumreading until just now
Why do these two posts sound like subtle defending?
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Post Post #2430 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:22 pm

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In post 2415, Flavor Leaf wrote:If I’m wrong on one of JJD/KK, it’s probably KK just being obnoxious town.
bleh post

you seem 100% sure that JJD/KK is scum then you backpeddle with this
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Post Post #2431 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:25 pm

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For the record I'm townreading KK and Flavor leaf
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Post Post #2432 (ISO) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:27 pm

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VOTE: Scioness
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Post Post #2433 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:22 am

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Day 2 VC #14Creature (0) -
Kublai Khan (1) -
WhemeStar (1) -
Hopkirk (0) -
EspeciallyTheLies (0) -
JarJarDrinks (5) - , , , ,
Andriod18 (2) - ,
Texcat (1) -
ArcAngel9 (1) -
Vaxkiller (1) -
Wavemode (0) -
PenguinPower (2) - ,
Myloninja13 (2) - ,
Scioness Sajj (1) -
Flavor Leaf (1) -
Not Voting (5) - Frozen Angel, Gamma Emerald, Scioness Sajj, Myloninja13

Lynch ThresholdDuring day 2, it takes 12 votes to lynch a player.

DeadlineDay 2 ends on July 14, 2018 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2018-07-14 20:00:00).

Moderator Notes
EspeciallyTheLies is V/LA for an indefinite time.

JarJarDrinks is V/LA until Monday, July 9, 2018.
If you notice any mistakes, please point them out. (That includes looking at the voting history.)

Spoiler: Current Voting History


Spoiler: Previous Voting History
Day 1
Note: * = Hammer Vote

Note: ^ = Vote after hammer vote.

Dunnstral (5): --> --> --> -->
Srceenplay
(0): (Null)
Performer
(5): --> --> --> --> *
Joral
(0): (Null)
Almost50
(8): --> --> --> --> --> --> -->
Fumuki (0): (Null)
Golden Robster (13): --> --> --> --> --> --> --> --> --> --> --> --> [[ost=1798](Null) (1798)[/post]
Pine (2): -->
Creature (6): --> --> --> --> -->
Kublai Khan (6): --> --> --> --> -->
WhemeStar (3): --> -->
Hopkirk (9): --> --> --> --> --> --> --> -->
Edosurist (2): -->
Gamma Emerald (3): --> --> --> ^
Ausuka
(9): --> --> --> --> --> --> --> -->
Lalendra (3): --> -->
EspeciallyTheLies (2): -->
Lovebird (1):
Davesaz (1):
Frozen Angel (3): --> -->
JarJarDrinks (8): --> --> --> --> --> --> -->
Osuka
(10): --> --> --> --> --> --> --> --> -->
Texcat (4): --> --> -->
Andriod18 (4): --> --> -->
ArcAngel9 (4): --> --> -->
Charles510 (2): -->
Vaxkiller (8): --> --> --> --> --> --> -->
Wavemode (5): --> --> --> -->
TheRampage (3): --> -->
PenguinPower (1):
Myloninja13 (4): --> --> -->
Scioness Sajj (4): --> --> -->
Flavor Leaf (1):

Pre-GameDunnstral (2): -->
Srceenplay
(1):
Pine (1):
Kublai Khan (1):
Hopkirk (1):
Edosurist (1):
Osuka
(2): -->
Texcat (1):
Wavemode (1):
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Post Post #2434 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:58 am

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VOTE: Myloninja13

town yourself or die please.
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Post Post #2435 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:59 am

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Should I use all my usual town tropes lol?

Like:

Lol, AHHHHHHHH, haha, :P, :D
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Post Post #2436 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:55 am

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Are you going to vote for anyone?
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Post Post #2437 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:57 am

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In post 2436, texcat wrote:Are you going to vote for anyone?
I guess I could VOTE: PP because OMGUS and they haven't really done anything to town read them on.
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Post Post #2438 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:23 am

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Schedule has normalized. Will be catching up this evening.
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Post Post #2439 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:52 am

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Kublai’s engagement feels kind of false. Summary of interactions/mentions of everyone in the game:

Dunn- Townreads based on Dunn pointing out when Android last posted. Doesn’t address the townread again.

Robster- asks a couple of light questions without followup and agrees we probably shouldn’t lynch in the neighbourhood (post Ausuka claim).

Pine- Mentions Pine is active lurking about 6ish times. Doesn’t press Pine on this (like he does Scion). Townreads anyway.

Creature- A bit of doubt over the Creature meta tells. No direct conversation.

Wheme- Doesn’t really mention.

Hopkirk- Excluding this one as it’s me.

Edo/Gamma- doesn’t engage with or even mention respectively.

Ausuka- Scumreads pretty explicitly for most of the game.

Lalendra- Asks two people about their reads on the slot as part of a list of several people he’s asking about.

ETL- No engagement.

Love/Dave/FA- Minor push, doesn’t mention, doesn’t mention.

JarJar- Votes and pushes a bit D1. Isn’t voting him now/slight defence of JJ on push against him.

Android- Mentions once saying people shouldn’t complain about Android/Wave with FL around.

Tex- Townreads. Idk where.

Arc- Includes in one list of active lurkers but not another (the Android/Wave/FL post). Doesn’t really push/mention).

Vax- Doesn’t really mention. Currently voting.

Wave- Defends a lot.

The Rampage- Not sure of KK’s read.

Mylo- Mentions as a lurker a few times.

Scion- Votes and says it was to push Scion. Does not attempt to push other lurkers in the same way. Barely mentions most of the lurkers. One of the things that feels contradictory.

Flavour Leaf- Pushes a lot harder than most lurkers for basically the same thing. Want to lynch FL/calls him a bad player, largely ignores most people who aren’t contributing.

2402 attacking FL is pretty bad in this respect. Tries to discredit FL by saying about FL ‘Where's you reads on the game? Your promised analysis? You've had no comment on Pine all game? Lalendra? Myloninja13?’ which also applies to KK. Hypocritical.

Does not ask the same question to Arc, Android, Mylo etc.

(Dead town)

Almost50- Pushes a bit early on. Mostly abandons/doesn’t follow up (arguably when it became clear people townread A50)

Ousuka- Pushes hard.

Performer- Pushes hard.


Summary: Feels like he’s not actually looking to solve the game and feels kind of self-contradictory. Not engaging deeply. Not following up on stuff. Unclear reads/doesn’t really feel like he’s trying to solve. Feels especially inconsistent in regard to lurkers.

Doesn’t help that his main five pushes are the three dead townies, the IC, and a push on FL that doesn’t fit how KK interacts with other non-contributors. Also doesn’t help he ignores/defends Android/Wave (who I scumread) while pushing every other wagon that happened yesterday.

Note- decided to go through this fully and see what results I got since I noticed earlier he doesn't mention Android, defends Wave, attacks Ousuka/Performer/Ausuka.
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Post Post #2440 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:54 am

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It might just be bad reads, mine weren’t great D1 either, but he seems active but the only pushing he’s done has been on town, a bad push on FL, and basically ignoring most of everyone else. It feels like pushing rather than solving, and it doesn't feel consistent.
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Post Post #2441 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:01 am

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In post 2419, Ausuka wrote:heyyyy I'm really bad and need to get to this game. correct me if I'm wrong but nobody has told me why KK was town? feels like loads of ppl TR'd him, and I don't really know why.
I wasn’t aware people were town reading him.
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Post Post #2442 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:02 am

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In post 2428, Golden Robster wrote:
In post 2402, Kublai Khan wrote:You skip Day 1 except to brag about how you're not reading yet. You comment a little bit on things, but you don't actually put your vote anywhere until the last minute.
You've made hard and soft PR claims and then took them back. (Maybe? Sort of?)
You say that the lynchee will flip town (which is easy enough to predict as scum).
You vote JarJarDrinks with the explanation that his reads are political. I ask you to clarify, you refuse and change the topic.
In fact, you link me with JarJarDrinks because I'm "chainsaw defending" him.
Last I checked, chainsaw defending means that as scum I'm attacking you out of the blue because I'm defending a scum-partner. But I told you at the end of Day 1 that I would come after you Day 2, and I did regardless of your actions.

So for all the braggadocio of how awesome you are at manipulating people and at analysis. You've got 2 scum reads (one of which I know for a fact is town), and your analysis is a shitty "he seems scummy". So yeah, congrats. I'm definitely not getting behind you as a town leader. Mission accomplished on that.

Where's you reads on the game? Your promised analysis? You've had no comment on Pine all game? Lalendra? Myloninja13?

Where's your reads list, you day 1 lurker? (3rd time asking)
over-exaggerated, melodramatic and being excessive in this post

think this post is trying to produce a reaction and I TR it
You could say the exact same thing here, and literally just change that T to an S and does the same thing, if not more. This is projecty. However this does make me feel GROB and KK arent scum together.
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Post Post #2443 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:04 am

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In post 2430, Golden Robster wrote:
In post 2415, Flavor Leaf wrote:If I’m wrong on one of JJD/KK, it’s probably KK just being obnoxious town.
bleh post

you seem 100% sure that JJD/KK is scum then you backpeddle with this
Nah. That’s just how I seem. I’m never 100% sure until I am.

I go forward with thinking that I am correct, as it allows me to see the angles. Plus, it makes sense from my perspective, so I have no reason to think I’m incorrect until something comes up, and when it does, my reads adapt.
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Post Post #2444 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:05 am

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It allows me to not look over anyone for simple things. I do it everywhere, I’m just more invested here right now is all.
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Post Post #2445 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:06 am

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Good work, Hopkirk. Have a town read.
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Post Post #2446 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:09 am

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It’s also hilarious that KK had some personal agenda it seemed against low activity’s posters, but once I came in, he seemingly forgot about all the low activity posters. I believe I am no longer a low activity player here.
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Post Post #2447 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:10 am

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@JJD - do you have thoughts on Lalendra?
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Post Post #2448 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:57 am

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Creature has also requested replacement.
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Post Post #2449 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:27 am

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Creature slot town. :lol:

ScumCreature would have just lurked it out and took any repercussions within the game, socially. He’d have taken a lynch.
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