SUPP 2017 Mafia, Mod Thread

[Taly]

really, really strong scumteam wow

this town was strong too but damn, everything has lined up to scums benefit this game

[TehBrawlGuy]

idk if I agree - espe has been obvious all game and Shepard has been since he subbed in. fire has been pretty widely suspected too

tw and nahdia both get props though. Hopefully town listens to my snipe and offs tw before endgame. I have to say I'm pretty happy with the snipe, calling both tw as scum and my impending death. I was hoping if I was active enough and right it'd pull the nk to me since I was essentially vt anyway,

Still sad about misreading pp but such a bold sk claim caught me totally off guard. Don't think it's super effective anyway since there's no way pun lives through endgame after it so I guess I can't be too mad

[Errantparabola]

I think people who accuse my setups of being townsided (there always are people) need to consider at least one of the following:
1) scum have won in almost all of my setups (and still complain)
2) i consistently give town a lot of awkward and slow powers
3) unconditional daytalk is a LARGE and i mean LARGE asset for scum both mechanically and psychologically

[Errantparabola]

and i would have to be strongly incentivized NOT to give scum daytalk because a lot of people hate rolling scum and daytalk i think makes playing scum a lot more inherently fun, and people might have less of a bad time with it

[TehBrawlGuy]

fwiw i think daytalk makes mafia mafia

like, coordinating between members and catching that coordination is such a cornerstone of scum/town play respectively, sp I despise games without it, and unconditional daytalk is even better than conditional

i would actually think this setup is scumsided since it has the potential to end so early in a WCS, but I'm totally fine with that because scumsided setups are the most interesting anyway

[TehBrawlGuy]

oooooh shep is hella fucked because of vax kill, rip

also, just realized this, why in the hell did vax not fire at Pun N1? if you're vig and someone else claims it, you should probably execute them. like it's not reasonable to have an infinite shot vig and a 1 shot vig in the same game, even with pun's supposed restriction

[Taly]

lol i dont think i can play scum without daytalk, traitor is probably my least fave non-bastard role, probably the only time id lurk in a game

unless i have my own NK or something like an SK, but that's OP

[Taly]

ehhh... if Espe/Fire keep coming at each other then their potential lynches are going to come a little easier

i hope someone connects my death to TW in some way because im confident he advocated for my N1 NK in the scumchat LOL

[Taly]

people need to do NKA's more

[TehBrawlGuy]

lol i dont think i can play scum without daytalk, traitor is probably my least fave non-bastard role, probably the only time id lurk in a game

unless i have my own NK or something like an SK, but that's OP

my favorite traitor variant is actually pretty fun

knows who the mafia are, but is not known to the mafia, investigates inno, doesn't count as mafia for endgame checks (so if it's the only mafia alive, town wins), and has a night action to check for cop/not cop

it basically exists to fakeclaim a guilty on cops or CC claims, and to make cops guiltying mafia less auto lynch. because you dont count for endgame you basically want to play suicidal and get a PR lynched in the chaos

[Errantparabola]

Nominate Punreader for NK Immune Miller Vig

[TehBrawlGuy]

and now like all the thread activity is scum because taly and I are both dead

i dont like our chances to win this lol

[Errantparabola]

I’m not so sure about that, although it’s a fair assessment considering that the nightplay fell mostly towards scum’s favor.
But Pun and Shepard and Fire making it to endgame would shock me.
I think the bus unravels after Fire flips- it’s Espe’s literal only contribution for the past dozens of pages and is a fairly detectable bus once Fire flips. the worst is endgame material but is losing a bit of steam as well, IMO.

[Taly]

Best reads:
TehBrawlGuy gave the scumteam an average ranking of 3. The highest score he gave scum was a 6 to Nahdia.
Taly gave the scumteam an average ranking of 3.5. The highest score he gave scum was a 9 to the worst.
Srceenplay gave the scumteam an average ranking of 4.25. The highest score he gave scum was a 7 to the worst.

At least we can be happy that we were strong townies

TBG

, comparatively

But yeah, if we both were still alive... I feel like we'd have much more control over the game narrative at this point.

[Taly]

If

Pun

wants to win and survive, he better start shooting scum.

[Taly]

also, im a little sad i got NKed LOL

i would be screaming in thread right now, because nobody allowed me to vote EoD2 D:

[Taly]

the

"I somehow lived"

phrase should be instalynched with fire

[Taly]

well, technically

Fire

should be lynched right after that tho

[Taly]

I'm gonna be annoyed if

Vax

,

MWNN

, or

Shoshin

get lynched

Literally it's just mostly scum and their targets talking right now, and town is doing these 3 a big disservice.

In light of these flips, I don't know why

CS

and

Fire

aren't put on a pike.

[Taly]

Wow

Maybe

TBG

and I were great shots overall - we had a strong influence in the game narrative.

[Errantparabola]

shep trying to call the cop innno scum

[Taly]

Yeah, is

Shep

asking to get lynched?

[TehBrawlGuy]

I really don't know what most of the game is doing right now

vax is making incredibly ineffectual posts trying to push shep
shep is somehow losing to this through a combination of getting caught by claims and pushing the cop inno(???)
the rest of the town doesn't even exist
tw has pretty much stopped posting which should be a red flag but nobody's calling him on it because of the above point

that just leaves pun/fire/espe to get points for playing today well

[TehBrawlGuy]

also, lmao @

You can put “facts” in air quotes but you’re clearly Conwaying this shit

i like this expression

[Errantparabola]

Shepard is misreading his role PM.
He isn’t 1-shot bulletproof, he’s 1-night activated full bulletproof. Do you think there was ambiguity in this role pm?