Newbie 1881 - Game Over

[Micc]

Newbie 1881

Moderated by Micc

Players:

IcemanCh
Eragon replaced Prologue, maggielemy
Skygazer replaced WhyMafia, stan1ey
Flicker
TrinityNZ
Quick replaced SargeAlpha
OkaPoka (SE)
Formerfish (SE)
nancy (IC)

SE - indicates a Semi-Experienced player, a player who has played at least two games on MafiaScum.net
IC - indicates the Inexperience-Challenged player, a player who has volunteered for a teaching position in this Newbie Game
(their play is governed by the MafiaWiki article on being a good IC)

Spoiler: Alive

IcemanCh, a

Vanilla Townie

, survived.
Skygazer, a

Vanilla Townie

, survived.
OkaPoka, a

Vanilla Townie

, survived.
nancy, a

Town Neapolitan

, survived.

Spoiler: Dead

TrinityNZ, a

Vanilla Townie

, was lynched Day 1.
Flicker, a

Vanilla Townie

, was killed Night 1.
Quick, a

Mafia Goon

, was lynched Day 2.
Formerfish, a

Town Doctor

, was killed Night 2.
Eragon, a

Mafia Rolecop

, was lynched Day 3.

Important Events:

Day 1 Begins | Prologue replaces maggielemy | Eragon replaces Prologue | Quick replaces SargeAlpha | WhyMafia replaces stan1ey | Day 1 Ends
Day 2 Begins | Skygazer replaces WhyMafia | Day 2 Ends
Day 3 Begins | Day 3 Ends
Postgame Discussion Begins

[Micc]

Game Rules

General Rules/Game Etiquette

1. Obey all Site-wide Rules.
   
2. Communication outside the thread (if your role specifically allows it) is allowed until the game begins.
   
3. You may not quote private communication of any kind. This includes moderator-supplied information (either real or fabricated) of any kind. Paraphrasing (for role claims, etc.) is acceptable.
   
4. There is to be NO personal communication outside of the forum postings unless your role PM specifically allows it.

Activity/Prods/Replacements

1. Prods of missing players will be issued after 30 hours of no activity.
   
2. A prodded player has 24 hours to respond to the prod, after which time a replacement search will begin. The prodded player may re-enter the game so long as no replacement has been found.
   
3. A player who has been prodded 3 times is subject to possible replacement without further notice.
   
4. If you anticipate being unavailable for more than 30 hours please PM me or post in the thread to declare V/LA.
   
5. I reserve the right to force replace players who need extensively long V/LA at my own discretion.

Deadlines

1. Deadlines for this game will be 10 days for Day 1 and 7 days for following Day Phases. Night Phases will last a maximum of 48 hours.
   
2. Players may request an early end to the Night Phase by PM'ing me. Night will be cut short if all players request it.
   
3. Extensions are given only in extreme circumstances.
   
4. If you have a role with a Night action your choices are due to me by the posted deadline. If I do not receive your choice via PM by the posted deadline you will forfeit your actions.

Player Actions/Voting/Player Death

1. A simple majority of all living players must agree on one person (via voting) for a Lynch to occur (simple majority = ½ # of living players +1, rounded down). If no one has a simple majority of votes at deadline a No Lynch will occur.
   
2. Votes must be bolded or use the [.vote] tags to be counted (e.g.
   Vote: Player
   or VOTE: Player).
   
3. Unvotes are not necessary before changing votes.
   
4. You may
   Vote: No Lynch
   - a simple majority of these vote types are required to send the game to Night phase without a Lynch.
   
5. Votes made using nicknames or abbreviations will be counted at my discretion. Fake vote gambits should be executed at your own peril. If I think its a vote, then its a vote.

Miscellaneous

1. I will use
   Bolded Dark Blue
   (#004080) for Mod posts. Don't impersonate me. No invisible/small/encrypted text is allowed.
   
2. Any situation not explicitly covered above is subject to my discretion and will be handled as I see fit on a case-by-case basis.

[Micc]

Setup Information

2d3 (as designed by Cabd):

	A	B	C
Mafia	Mafia Roleblocker	Mafia Rolecop	Mafia Goon
Row 1	Town Cop and Town Neapolitan	Town Cop and Town Tracker	Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2	Town Jailkeeper and Town Doctor	Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker	Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3	Town Cop and Town Doctor	Town Neapolitan and Town Doctor	Town Tracker and Town Doctor

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role. The remaining six roles will be filled in by

one mafia goons

and

five vanilla townies

appropriately, to create a

2-mafia

and

7-town

setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.

Mafia Roleblocker

action takes precedence over a

Town Jailkeeper

action should that apply.

Mafia have access to their Private Topic at all times.

Spoiler: Full Setups

Column A & Row 1:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Neapolitan, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column A & Row 2:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column A & Row 3:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column B & Row 1:

Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column B & Row 2:

Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column B & Row 3:

Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Neapolitan, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column C & Row 1:

Mafia Goon x 2, Town Cop, Vanilla Townie x 6

Column C & Row 2:

Mafia Goon x 2, Town Jailkeeper, Vanilla Townie x 6

Column C & Row 3:

Mafia Goon x 2, Town Doctor, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5

Spoiler: Sample Role PM's

Vanilla Townie

Welcome!

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Jailkeeper

Welcome!

You are a

Town Jailkeeper

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Cop

Welcome!

You are a

Town Cop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are

Town

or

Mafia

. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Neapolitan

Welcome!

You are a

Town Neapolitan

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are

Vanilla Townie

or

Not Vanilla Townie

. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Tracker

Welcome!

You are a

Town Tracker

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Doctor

Welcome!

You are a

Town Doctor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Mafia Goon

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Goon

.

Your partner is

PLAYERNAME

who is a

Maifa Goon/Roleblocker/Rolecop

. Together you share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia Rolecop

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Rolecop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.

Vanilla Townies

and

Mafia Goons

will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

Your partner is

PLAYERNAME

who is a

Maifa Goon/Roleblocker

. Together you share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a role cop in the same night phase. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia Roleblocker

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Roleblocker

.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

Your partner is

PLAYERNAME

who is a

Maifa Goon/Rolecop

. Together you share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

[Micc]

Role PM's have been sent out. Please confirm in the method described by your role PM. The game will begin in (expired on 2018-07-10 20:12:05) if enough players have confirmed.

[Micc]

IcemanCh and maggielemy have not picked up their role PM's. They have (expired on 2018-07-11 16:12:05) to confirm before I begin searching for a replacement.

It is now Day 1.

Votecount 1.00

Not Voting (9) -

IcemanCh, maggielemy, stan1ey, Flicker, TrinityNZ, SargeAlpha, OkaPoka, Formerfish, nancy

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is paused at 10 days until all players have confirmed.

[OkaPoka]

First

VOTE: Formerfish

if he is town he will prove it

if he is scum we probably lost

[OkaPoka]

oh yeah ic will probably post but
to all newbies
this is RVS, or random voting stage
basically since on this site we play day start, nobody really starts with any information so generally people just vote randomly and ask questions to generate discussion and get reactions out of people
and the hope is town will get some information from RVS so we can move out of it and begin scumhunting (looking for the mafia)

[Formerfish]

VOTE: Iceman

He was town in his first 2 games and played, now he goes missing under suspicious circumstances, smells like rat scum to me.

Also, Oka, I'm still not your dancing monkey and dont have to prove shit

[nancy]

First order of business, do not communicate with anyone in this game or not in this game about this game. That means don't send any other player in the game a PM, don't talk to anyone else who plays mafia about the game on Discord, don't talk about the game on sitechat, don't mention the game in other games, and so on. Read the board announcement about this, thoroughly, please.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=30909

Please read the game rules post before you start playing. If you have any questions about the rules, or about your role, ask the moderator. Don't say what your role is or post your role PM or any other mod communication in the game thread. I am here to answer game mechanics- or theory-related questions and I will answer them truthfully regardless of my alignment, you can trust me on that because it's part of the rules of being an IC.

To start off I'd appreciate it if everyone answered a few questions:

1) What sort of activity can we expect from you this game?
2) Have you played forum mafia before, and if so, where, and how has that informed your play?
3) Do you prefer hunting mafia or manipulating town, and why?

I'll start off.

1) What sort of activity can we expect from you this game?
I should pretty much be living in thread, but I don't want to be too ubiquitous so that the thread has time to breathe.

2) Have you played forum mafia before, and if so, where, and how has that informed your play?
I've played on so many different sites that I've lost count. I'm from Westeros, where we play with short deadlines. I tend to get reads from interactions a lot, which lends itself really well to short deadlines, and I really value working with other people and try to keep everyone on the same level, so that no one feels excluded or irrelevant. That's the general attitude over there.

3) Do you prefer hunting mafia or manipulating town, and why?
I prefer hunting mafia, because I think trying to solve the puzzle of the game is a lot more challenging and rewarding than just lying through my teeth all game and having all the answers. I love working with other people and that comes a lot more naturally when I'm town, since I'm trying to solve things myself and it's pro-wincon for me to keep everyone motivated and interested in also figuring things out. There are very few things more enjoyable to me in mafia than working with people who I really connect with and solving the game together. When I'm mafia I just have to do things that other people like and that's not quite as rewarding. The only real fun I get out of playing mafia is working with my mafia team to lynch all the silly townies and either strategizing or just chilling out together in the mafia qt.

[TrinityNZ]

1) What sort of activity can we expect from you this game?
2) Have you played forum mafia before, and if so, where, and how has that informed your play?
3) Do you prefer hunting mafia or manipulating town, and why?

(1) I’m probably in a different time zone to most of you, and generally post in the evenings (my time), which starts now. I can’t post from work during the day, as this site is blocked on our work computers. Sometimes I post from my mobile phone. That’s one reason why my posts are usually pretty short. Another is that I’m still figuring out how to play this game.
(2) I’ve played one full game, and am now in a couple of games. I was mafia in my first game, which threw me, and I had no idea how to act, so probably played the game pretty badly. Prior to that game, I had never played mafia or any game like it in my life. I saw some kids playing it on the train and had no idea what it was. I came home and asked my own kids if they’d ever heard of a game where someone was the mafia, and they said of course! And here I am.
(3) After my bad first experience, I’d have to say that I prefer hunting mafia, not being hunted. I can see that manipulating town could be fun though.

[TrinityNZ]

VOTE: Iceman

He was town in his first 2 games and played, now he goes missing under suspicious circumstances, smells like rat scum to me.

Also, Oka, I'm still not your dancing monkey and dont have to prove shit

Maybe he doesn’t want to play with us again!

[TrinityNZ]

VOTE: maggie

Just a random vote

[nancy]

1) What sort of activity can we expect from you this game?
2) Have you played forum mafia before, and if so, where, and how has that informed your play?
3) Do you prefer hunting mafia or manipulating town, and why?

(1) I’m probably in a different time zone to most of you, and generally post in the evenings (my time), which starts now. I can’t post from work during the day, as this site is blocked on our work computers. Sometimes I post from my mobile phone. That’s one reason why my posts are usually pretty short. Another is that I’m still figuring out how to play this game.
(2) I’ve played one full game, and am now in a couple of games. I was mafia in my first game, which threw me, and I had no idea how to act, so probably played the game pretty badly. Prior to that game, I had never played mafia or any game like it in my life. I saw some kids playing it on the train and had no idea what it was. I came home and asked my own kids if they’d ever heard of a game where someone was the mafia, and they said of course! And here I am.
(3) After my bad first experience, I’d have to say that I prefer hunting mafia, not being hunted. I can see that manipulating town could be fun though.

Cool. I think you're town.

[stan1ey]

Hello everyone !
VOTE: OkaPoka
since I expect people to ask at some point, I've played 2 games on here:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=75961
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=76478

[stan1ey]

To start off I'd appreciate it if everyone answered a few questions:

1) What sort of activity can we expect from you this game?
2) Have you played forum mafia before, and if so, where, and how has that informed your play?
3) Do you prefer hunting mafia or manipulating town, and why?

1) Fairly active but my posting will probably drop of next week
2) This my third game so far. I think the most important thing i've learnt is to always think about motivations behind posts.
3) Hunting mafia i guess? I don't know what you mean by manipulating town

[nancy]

3) Hunting mafia i guess? I don't know what you mean by manipulating town

Sure, you can be town too for now.

If you're mafia, your job is to manipulate town into thinking that you are town, that your mafia partner is town, and that other town are mafia. Because you know everyone's alignment, every read you state in thread is actually a lie, every moment where you pretend to be uninformed about alignments is a lie, regardless of what you do your intent is always going to be to manipulate people because that's how you win the game as mafia.

[stan1ey]

Oh right you were basically saying do you prefer being town or mafia. In that case then i would say mafia probably. i've played 1 game as town and 1 game as mafia, both games were enjoyable but i think playing as town can get frustrating at times

[nancy]

Yeah, it can.

[OkaPoka]

1) I'll be pretty active
2)yes and still suck, turns out people are good at lying
3) manipulating town definitely, hunting mafia too hard, too much brainpower

[SargeAlpha]

VOTE: stan1ey

cheers

[nancy]

VOTE: stan1ey

cheers

Do you have anything to contribute?

[nancy]

I'm going to take that as a no.

Vote: SargeAlpha

[SargeAlpha]

Not much, but I should probably answer this too:

1) What sort of activity can we expect from you this game?
I'll be pretty active. I'll check in every once in a while!

2) Have you played forum mafia before, and if so, where, and how has that informed your play?
Never played forum mafia before. A few days ago or so I was invited to play a few marathon games w/ a friend of mine. That went horribly wrong. From that, I can tell that posting in the "goldilocks zone" as I would call it is very important.

3) Do you prefer hunting mafia or manipulating town, and why?
From the two marathon games I played - my only experience, hunting mafia seems easier than manipulating town. One game I was scum and I inadvertently threw everyone under a bus. The next I was townie and I was figuring out from a list who was scum, despite me lurking around and such.

[nancy]

What is "every once in a while" exactly, lmao.

What's the goldilocks zone? Lmao.

[SargeAlpha]

What is "every once in a while" exactly, lmao.

What's the goldilocks zone? Lmao.

I'll just use the word often instead of every once in a while lol

Goldilocks, like the fairy tale? I'm just using the fairy tale in this sense where you don't post too much or post too little. I read up on some theory beforehand regarding activity