NY 213 - Game Over!

JarJarDrinks · Post Post #2750 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:23 am

In post 2748, Flavor Leaf wrote:If I was fake claiming and hoping for it, I’d have already fake claimed Gamma Emerald as my mason partner. He’s not, but
I almost did this anyways
, hoping Gamma would see I’m town and go along with it. (He’s actually been town before and claimed masons with me, but I was scum) so I’d love to eventually be fake masons as town with my buddy, Gamma.

I thought you were at work and just didn't have time to respond to the fake claim?

texcat · Post Post #2751 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:27 am

In post 2724, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2716, texcat wrote:Sigh. Flavor Leaf is not a mason. It seems unlikely that the game contains masons AND neighbors, possibly but unlikely. It's not possible that FL's first claim is his true role. Just go look at his meta. He makes many claims during a game and I don't think the first one has ever been true. I've never understood the motivation for doing this, but I don't think it necessarily means he's scum.
First one’s been true a bunch of times. Sometimes I change it and he second or third ones aren’t true. But the first ones have been true a bunch of times.

Also been through games with being the only one who hadn’t claimed.

I play every game in the moment. :shrug: it gets results.

Everytime you’ve been scum in a game with me Texcat, I caught you out.

OK, I stand corrected. You might be a mason. Or you might not. I wouldn't bet the ranch, or the house either way. I might be willing to bet the outhouse than you're not a mason though.

I don't remember ever making it even close to end game as scum, so I completely believe that you've caught me every time.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #2752 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:27 am

In post 2750, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 2748, Flavor Leaf wrote:If I was fake claiming and hoping for it, I’d have already fake claimed Gamma Emerald as my mason partner. He’s not, but
I almost did this anyways
, hoping Gamma would see I’m town and go along with it. (He’s actually been town before and claimed masons with me, but I was scum) so I’d love to eventually be fake masons as town with my buddy, Gamma.
I thought you were at work and just didn't have time to respond to the fake claim?

I don’t understand what you mean by that?

That had nothing to do with the fake claim by GROB. I can check up on site at work, I have downtime, but i can’t really be getting ultra invested so sometimes I gotta check out as I did there. But I came back within a few hours.

Gamma and I are just buds, and he knows how I work as scum better than the majority of the people in this game. We’ve fooled each other as scum, sure, but that just helps out. Gamma followed me onto KK earlier. He wouldn’t have done that if he didn’t see me as more likely town.

I’ve already thrown this out the window. He’s not my mason.

Hopkirk · Post Post #2753 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:28 am

I've made four or five reads lists so far this game. Not even Flavour Leaf actually noticed the crumb.

Neutral/POE 1 pool: Robster, Android/
Flavor leaf
/ Wave/Rampage/(Arc/ETL- considered in very light town)

Neutralish. Wouldn’t vote.: Lal, LB/Dave,
Flavour Leaf
, Ausuka

Class TB: (town that i should reread tomorrow but still like) Penguin, Pine, Robster,
Flavor Leaf
, FA, Dunn

Lal/Tex/Mylo/
Flavour Leaf
I need to reread and see where they fall. Any thoughts would be helpful too

Scumpool 2 (the ones I want to sort more. Harder to sort due to lurking): Tex, pine, Wheme,
Flavour Leaf
, Mylo, Scion

Leaning town on Mylo,
Flavour Leaf
, and texy I think.

Whenether Flavour appeared in a tier on my reads list, every other name was shortened on the tier, while his was left as the full length Flavour Leaf.

(Exceptions: Ausuka one time since shortening Lalendra and Ausuka while not having any longer names would probably attract questions. Also pine once- so I used a lowercase p despite using uppercase for everyone else).

The other tiers on my reads lists involved both shortened names and normal length ones. Many people who are on a Flavour Leaf tier as shown above are included with their full names in other lists sometimes when not on his tier.

Plus my interactions with/around Flavour today, and my early townread on him for no reason etc are other indicators.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #2754 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:29 am

In post 2751, texcat wrote:
In post 2724, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2716, texcat wrote:Sigh. Flavor Leaf is not a mason. It seems unlikely that the game contains masons AND neighbors, possibly but unlikely. It's not possible that FL's first claim is his true role. Just go look at his meta. He makes many claims during a game and I don't think the first one has ever been true. I've never understood the motivation for doing this, but I don't think it necessarily means he's scum.
First one’s been true a bunch of times. Sometimes I change it and he second or third ones aren’t true. But the first ones have been true a bunch of times.

Also been through games with being the only one who hadn’t claimed.

I play every game in the moment. :shrug: it gets results.

Everytime you’ve been scum in a game with me Texcat, I caught you out.
OK, I stand corrected. You might be a mason. Or you might not. I wouldn't bet the ranch, or the house either way. I might be willing to bet the outhouse than you're not a mason though.

I don't remember ever making it even close to end game as scum, so I completely believe that you've caught me every time.

I wanna be scum with you one day. You’re someone I’ve actually played a good amount of games with, modded some games you were in, yet never really interacted with more than a few things.

JarJarDrinks · Post Post #2755 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:29 am

UNVOTE:

Kublai Khan · Post Post #2756 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:31 am

@Hopkirk - Just to verify. You are claiming mason with Flavor Leaf?

Do you realize that Flavor Leaf has no "u" in his name?

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #2757 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:31 am

In post 2755, JarJarDrinks wrote:UNVOTE:

Can we please look over my wagon? Haha.

Specifically GROB, Penguin, Lalendra, Wheme.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #2758 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:32 am

In post 2756, Kublai Khan wrote:@Hopkirk - Just to verify. You are claiming mason with Flavor Leaf?

Do you realize that Flavor Leaf has no "u" in his name?

If I was from the UK, I would, though.

ISO · Post Post #2759 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:32 am

VOTE: Mylo

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #2760 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:32 am

In post 2643, Hopkirk wrote:
In post 2637, Golden Robster wrote:can't tell if FL was at work or silently ignoring my gambit
What did you expect to get out of it? If you aren't actually the partner he knows that.

What were you trying to tell with the question you asked me Robster?

This post killed me earlier

Hopkirk · Post Post #2761 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:33 am

In post 2756, Kublai Khan wrote:@Hopkirk - Just to verify. You are claiming mason with Flavor Leaf?

Do you realize that Flavor Leaf has no "u" in his name?

Hard claiming the mason I've been subtly crumbing since early D1. Yep.
I mixed between U and no U because I'm British. That wasn't part of the crumb.

Kublai Khan · Post Post #2762 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:34 am

You didn't answer my "Why is Myloninja13 town?" question, Flavor Leaf.

Kublai Khan · Post Post #2763 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:35 am

In post 2761, Hopkirk wrote:
In post 2756, Kublai Khan wrote:@Hopkirk - Just to verify. You are claiming mason with Flavor Leaf?

Do you realize that Flavor Leaf has no "u" in his name?
Hard claiming the mason I've been subtly crumbing since early D1. Yep.
I mixed between U and no U because I'm British. That wasn't part of the crumb.

Ok thank you. That's actually a relief because now I can ignore all the paranoia surrounding Flavor Leaf and actually listen to him.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #2764 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:36 am

In post 2762, Kublai Khan wrote:You didn't answer my "Why is Myloninja13 town?" question, Flavor Leaf.

He was hard day 1 mislynch bait.

If we go Mylo, I’d rather give it a day or so because it can bait scum better later in the game.

I highly doubt Mylo as scum will be able to Kubla Khan...sorry will be able to coast through this game at this point anyways. Just give it a day or two.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #2765 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:37 am

In post 2763, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 2761, Hopkirk wrote:
In post 2756, Kublai Khan wrote:@Hopkirk - Just to verify. You are claiming mason with Flavor Leaf?

Do you realize that Flavor Leaf has no "u" in his name?
Hard claiming the mason I've been subtly crumbing since early D1. Yep.
I mixed between U and no U because I'm British. That wasn't part of the crumb.
Ok thank you. That's actually a relief because now I can ignore all the paranoia surrounding Flavor Leaf and actually listen to him.

Do you see why I didn’t want to claim my partner, though.

I don’t want him to die.

JarJarDrinks · Post Post #2766 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:38 am

In post 2763, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 2761, Hopkirk wrote:
In post 2756, Kublai Khan wrote:@Hopkirk - Just to verify. You are claiming mason with Flavor Leaf?

Do you realize that Flavor Leaf has no "u" in his name?
Hard claiming the mason I've been subtly crumbing since early D1. Yep.
I mixed between U and no U because I'm British. That wasn't part of the crumb.
Ok thank you. That's actually a relief because now I can ignore all the paranoia surrounding Flavor Leaf and actually listen to him.

same, I'm glad it's hopkirk so I don't have to worry about a 2 scum fakeclaim gambit.

Hopkirk · Post Post #2767 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:40 am

I think these townreads are shared by me/FL/Ausuka.
Dunn, FA, Creature, Vax, ETL
JJD, Wave

I'd like to hear who these people are scumreading since I don't think we're in an amazing place for this close to deadline.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #2768 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:41 am

So what’s the play guys? Idk if Hopkirk town reads KK, but I town read you two. I also have solid town reads on Gamma and Dunn.

I’d prefer not to go on Mylo today because I feel scum has been setting that up for after the second mason claimed.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #2769 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:42 am

I would like to go Penguin or GROB today. Lalendra could be scum, but like Mylo, I think that’s better for another day.

JarJarDrinks · Post Post #2770 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:43 am

In post 2767, Hopkirk wrote:I think these townreads are shared by me/FL/Ausuka.
Dunn, FA, Creature, Vax, ETL
JJD, Wave

I'd like to hear who these people are scumreading since I don't think we're in an amazing place for this close to deadline.

gonna reevaluate and ISO people again. Specifically the people on the FL wagon.

Hopkirk · Post Post #2771 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:44 am

In post 2767, Hopkirk wrote:I think these townreads are shared by me/FL/Ausuka.
Dunn, FA, Creature, Vax, ETL
JJD, Wave

I'd like to hear who these people are scumreading since I don't think we're in an amazing place for this close to deadline.

I think we all townread Gamma and Tex too.

ISO · Post Post #2772 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:46 am

In post 2769, Flavor Leaf wrote:I would like to go Penguin or GROB today. Lalendra could be scum, but like Mylo, I think that’s better for another day.

You have a very weak reason to scum read me based on my history with you, and you know it.

If we can get a GR wagon going, I will be glad to lynch that.

Mylo is scum though.

Hopkirk · Post Post #2773 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:47 am

That leaves the following 10.
Golden Robster/Pine/Scion/KK/Wheme/TBG (Arc)/Mylo/Lalendra/Android/Penguin.

I was going to agree that I’m okay leaving KK to tomorrow since it’d be useful to reread him after some time had passed to see if I was conf.biased, but I’m probably not going to be around tomorrow.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #2774 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:48 am

In post 2772, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 2769, Flavor Leaf wrote:I would like to go Penguin or GROB today. Lalendra could be scum, but like Mylo, I think that’s better for another day.
You have a very weak reason to scum read me based on my history with you, and you know it.

If we can get a GR wagon going, I will be glad to lynch that.

Mylo is scum though.

VOTE: Golden Rob

Fair point, but I’m scum reading you based on more than just things dealing with me. However, I’m willing to reevaluate.