NY 213 - Game Over!

[wavemode]

UNVOTE: i would be willing to lynch in Lalendra/Scion/Rob

[Kublai Khan]

Um. He faked claimed mason and then didn't give a reason when asked why he did it? Didn't really care until mason were actually confirmed.

Yes, action is bad.

So tell me about the scum motivation in the action.

[Lalendra]

UNVOTE:
I would like to hear from the mason partner this dayphase.

Uhh then why unvote?

Because I don't think he's scum? Nor do I believe that being at L-7 is going to pressure the mason partner into claiming.

[JarJarDrinks]

UNVOTE:
I would like to hear from the mason partner this dayphase.

Uhh then why unvote?

Because I don't think he's scum? Nor do I believe that being at L-7 is going to pressure the mason partner into claiming.

If you don't think he's scum then why do you want the mason to claim?

Also what changed your mind?

[Lalendra]

It is blatant role fishing, and if you’re town who “needs a second mason to claim” that’s just bad. It’s a fucking mason claim. It’ll come out.

Is it not better to have confirmed masons so that we can narrow the lynch pool by knowing who is definitely town? I understand that also means that scum will know who the masons are, but scum already know who is town so what's the difference?

[Lalendra]

Mylo has specifically chosen PP because he knew PP wouldn't be able to defend themselves against opportunistic vote with no reasoning? Is that what you are saying here?

Yes.

[Ircher]

Day 2 VC #21

Golden Robster (2) - Flavor Leaf (2774), PenguinPower (2775)
Creature (0) -
Kublai Khan (2) - Gamma Emerald (2488), Andriod18 (2533)
WhemeStar (0) -
Hopkirk (0) -
EspeciallyTheLies (0) -
JarJarDrinks (1) - Dunnstral (2206)
Andriod18 (1) - Pine (1936)
Texcat (0) -
TehBrawlGuy (0) -
Vaxkiller (1) - Kublai Khan (2423)
Wavemode (1) - TehBrawlGuy (2690)
PenguinPower (2) - EspeciallyTheLies (1996), Myloninja13 (2437)
Myloninja13 (4) - Creature (1941), Vaxkiller (2472), Texcat (2552), Ausuka (2574)
Scioness Sajj (0) -
Flavor Leaf (1) - WhemeStar (2542)
Not Voting (7) - Frozen Angel, Scioness Sajj, Lalendra (2705), JarJarDrinks (2755), Hopkirk (2782), Golden Robster (2783), Wavemode (2800)

Lynch Threshold

During day 2, it takes 12 votes to lynch a player.

Deadline

Day 2 ends on July 14, 2018 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2018-07-14 20:00:00).

Moderator Notes

Frozen Angel is V/LA until July 11.
Seeking a replacement for EspeciallyTheLies.
Prodded Pine. He has (expired on 2018-07-12 09:49:40) to respond in-thread.
If you have consistent weekend V/LA, you must remind me every weekend, or I will prod you. Alternatively, you can set V/LA tags each weekend.
If you notice any mistakes, please point them out. (That includes looking at the voting history.)

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Day 2

Dunnstral: Myloninja13 (1942) --> JarJarDrinks (2206)
Golden Robster: Hopkirk (2078) --> (Null) (2096) --> PenguinPower (2112) --> Scioness Sajj (2152) --> Vaxkiller (2171) --> (Null) (2288) --> Creature (2299) --> WhemeStar (2304) --> Wavemode (2367) --> Scioness Sajj (2432) --> TehBrawlGuy (2526) --> Flavor Leaf (2642) --> (Null) (2783)
Pine: Andriod18 (1936)
Creature: Myloninja13 (1941)
Kublai Khan: Flavor Leaf (1944) --> (Null) (2366) --> Vaxkiller (2423)
WhemeStar: Vaxkiller (2245) --> JarJarDrinks (2301) --> Flavor Leaf (2542)
Hopkirk: Andriod18 (2197) --> Kublai Khan (2346) --> (Null) (2781) ==> (Null) (2782)
Gamma Emerald: Kublai Khan (2488)

Ausuka

: PenguinPower (1960) --> Myloninja13 (2434) --> Flavor Leaf (2504) --> (Null) (2573) --> Myloninja13 (2574)
Lalendra: Vaxkiller (2184) --> JarJarDrinks (2334) --> Andriod18 (2503) --> Flavor Leaf (2657) --> (Null) (2705)
EspeciallyTheLies: PenguinPower (1996)
JarJarDrinks: Andriod18 (1945) --> EspeciallyTheLies (2041) --> (Null) (2066) --> Andriod18 (2192) --> Flavor Leaf (2327) --> (Null) (2612) --> Flavor Leaf (2640) --> (Null) (2755)
Andriod18: JarJarDrinks (2116) --> Kublai Khan (2533)
Texcat: ArcAngel9 (1987) --> Myloninja13 (2552)
ArcAngel9 (1): Texcat (2072)
TehBrawlGuy: (Null) (2535) --> Wavemode (2690)
Vaxkiller: WhemeStar (2343) --> Myloninja13 (2472)
Wavemode: Texcat (2044) --> Andriod18 (2331) --> Flavor Leaf (2635) --> (Null) (2800)
PenguinPower: Myloninja13 (1947) --> Kublai Khan (2572) --> Flavor Leaf (2709) --> Myloninja13 (2759) --> Golden Robster (2775)
Myloninja13: PenguinPower (2437)
Flavor Leaf: JarJarDrinks (2205) --> Kublai Khan (2499) --> PenguinPower (2715) --> Golden Robster (2774)

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Day 1

Note: * = Hammer Vote

Note: ^ = Vote after hammer vote.

Dunnstral (5):

Osuka

(77) --> Texcat (1388) --> Lalendra (1623) -->

Osuka

(1758) -->

Performer

(1782)

Srceenplay

(0): (Null)

Performer

(5):

Osuka

(623) --> TheRampage (909) --> Wavemode (1051) --> Andriod18 (1765) -->

Performer

(1849)*

Joral

(0): (Null)

Almost50

(8): Hopkirk (97) --> Edosurist (226) -->

Osuka

(390) -->

Ausuka

(1205) --> (Null) (1304) --> Vaxkiller (1352) --> (Null) (1380) --> Andriod18 (1460)
Fumuki (0): (Null)
Golden Robster (13):

Almost50

(177) --> Wavemode (183) -->

Osuka

(236) -->

Ausuka (317)

--> JarJarDrinks (319) --> (Null) (546) --> Vaxkiller (602) --> (Null) (1504) --> Wavemode (1588) --> (Null) (1589) --> ArcAngel9 (1770) --> Andriod18 (1784) --> [[ost=1798](Null) (1798)[/post]
Pine (2):

Osuka

(176) --> Andriod18 (1835)
Creature (6):

Performer

(385) --> Myloninja13 (720) --> TheRampage (813) -->

Performer

(898) --> Andriod18 (1449) -->

Performer

(1846)
Kublai Khan (6):

Osuka

(76) -->

Almost50

(122) --> Scioness Sajj (388) --> JarJarDrinks (536) -->

Osuka

(725) -->

Performer

(957)
WhemeStar (3): Lalendra (234) --> JarJarDrinks (797) --> Flavor Leaf (955)
Hopkirk (9):

Osuka

(90) --> Lalendra (279) -->

Osuka

(696) --> (Null) (993) --> Wavemode (999) -->

Performer

(1273) --> (Null) (1315) -->

Performer

(1458) --> Andriod18 (1679)
Edosurist (2): Texcat (84) -->

Almost50

(222)
Gamma Emerald (3): Vaxkiller (710) --> Wavemode (1107) --> Andriod18 (1711) --> _{(Null) (1889)^}

Ausuka

(9): JarJarDrinks (89) --> Creature (104) --> Myloninja13 (429) --> (Null) (742) --> TheRampage (743) --> Wavemode (998) -->

Performer

(1604) --> Lalendra (1624) --> Andriod18 (1680)
Lalendra (3):

Almost50

(209) --> (Null) (559) -->

Performer

(1229)
EspeciallyTheLies (2):

Almost50

(83) -->

Performer

(515)
Lovebird (1): Edosurist (259)
Davesaz (1): Wavemode (1014)
Frozen Angel (3):

Performer

(1579) --> (Null) (1606) -->

Performer

(1814)
JarJarDrinks (8):

Osuka

(85) -->

Almost50

(114) --> Charles510 (186) --> Edosurist (231) -->

Osuka

(535) -->

Ausuka

(842) --> Wavemode (1112) --> Andriod18 (1410)

Osuka

(10): Wavemode (80) --> JarJarDrinks (124) --> ArcAngel9 (229) --> Pine (332) --> JarJarDrinks (353) -->

Performer

(769) --> TheRampage (771) -->

Performer

(1047) --> Vaxkiller (1359) -->

Performer

(1384)
Texcat (4):

Osuka

(79) --> Wavemode (1080) -->

Osuka

(1703) --> Andriod18 (1777)
Andriod18 (4): Kublai Khan (190) --> Lovebird (290) --> JarJarDrinks (855) -->

Performer

(1796)
ArcAngel9 (4): Texcat (81) --> TheRampage (223) --> Texcat (604) -->

Performer

(1397)
Charles510 (2): JarJarDrinks (87) --> (Null) (310)
Vaxkiller (8): JarJarDrinks (363) --> Scioness Sajj (389) --> Andriod18 (437) --> JarJarDrinks (532) --> Golden Robster (678) --> Wavemode (1078) --> TheRampage (1085) -->

Performer

(1116)
Wavemode (5): Texcat (82) --> Charles510 (131) --> (Null) (838) -->

Osuka

(867) -->

Performer

(1108)
TheRampage (3): Creature (100) --> (Null) (509) -->

Osuka

(681)
PenguinPower (1):

Performer

(1774)
Myloninja13 (4): Edosurist (233) --> JarJarDrinks (326) -->

Performer

(1554) --> Andriod18 (1787)
Scioness Sajj (4):

Ausuka

(406) --> (Null) (1325) -->

Performer

(1552) --> Andriod18 (1760)
Flavor Leaf (1): Andriod18 (1772)

Pre-Game

Dunnstral (2): Texcat (9) --> Pine (43)

Srceenplay

(1): Andriod18 (62)
Pine (1):

Osuka

(16)
Kublai Khan (1): Pine (34)
Hopkirk (1):

Osuka

(66)
Edosurist (1): Pine (42)

Osuka

(2): Pine (28) --> Wavemode (33)
Texcat (1): Pine (44)
Wavemode (1):

Osuka

(31)

[Ircher]

Creature has changed their mind about replacing out.

[Lalendra]

Shamelessly sheeping powertown, choo choo

VOTE: JarJarDrinks

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

Wait, I'm so confused. So Rob isn't really a mason, he claimed mason with FL just to call FL's bluff, and then FL didn't react? hmm. This changes things.

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

Powertown in the first post refers to flavorleaf. I don't really get how Rob fakeclaiming would change her read on FL from powertown to scum.

FL sounded powertown. Then I didn't like how he didn't react to Rob's fake claim, because it seemed to me that if he was really a mason, he would have had a reaction. Then I decided he probably was really a mason because he explained that he was just making that post as he was heading into work and didn't have the chance to react, so I unvoted.

FFS, I really don't understand why people have such a hard time following my reasoning in EVERY GODDAMN GAME

[Lalendra]

VOTE: PenguinPower

[JarJarDrinks]

Shamelessly sheeping powertown, choo choo

VOTE: JarJarDrinks

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

Wait, I'm so confused. So Rob isn't really a mason, he claimed mason with FL just to call FL's bluff, and then FL didn't react? hmm. This changes things.

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

Powertown in the first post refers to flavorleaf. I don't really get how Rob fakeclaiming would change her read on FL from powertown to scum.

FL sounded powertown. Then I didn't like how he didn't react to Rob's fake claim, because it seemed to me that if he was really a mason, he would have had a reaction. Then I decided he probably was really a mason because he explained that he was just making that post as he was heading into work and didn't have the chance to react, so I unvoted.

FFS, I really don't understand why people have such a hard time following my reasoning in EVERY GODDAMN GAME

Wow this last sentence looks like the fakest outrage in the history of outrages.

You just post an unvote without saying a damn thing about why and complain that people aren't following your reasoning?

[Ircher]

@Mod: Please replace me. I apologize; I just don't have the time for this right now. Work is a bit too busy.

I'm just going to note that I've been kinda behind, so this kinda slipped my notice.

Seeking a replacement for EspeciallyTheLies.

[JarJarDrinks]

Is it not better to have confirmed masons so that we can narrow the lynch pool by knowing who is definitely town? I understand that also means that scum will know who the masons are, but scum already know who is town so what's the difference?

So do you believe it's correct play for all masons and ICs to claim immediately on day 1?

[Scioness Sajj]

reading pages 105-107. I'm fine with the mason claim considering how Hopkirk approached it in 2648. They are more likely town than gambiting.

GR also seems town for the gambit alone.

[Gamma Emerald]

So I checked back on the Android unvoters and there were less than I thought, only GoldRob and creature who is obvtown, and I'm pretty sure GR wasn't on the Flavor wagon so my theory about overlap there is probably wrong

[Lalendra]

Wow this last sentence looks like the fakest outrage in the history of outrages.

You just post an unvote without saying a damn thing about why and complain that people aren't following your reasoning?

I really couldn't care less if you think it's fake, and yeah, when I've already explained myself multiple times it's getting a little old.

[Lalendra]

Is it not better to have confirmed masons so that we can narrow the lynch pool by knowing who is definitely town? I understand that also means that scum will know who the masons are, but scum already know who is town so what's the difference?

So do you believe it's correct play for all masons and ICs to claim immediately on day 1?

I think if we already have one mason claimed, there's little point in waiting for the other to claim, and since you are of the same mind, I'm not sure why you're arguing with me on this.

[JarJarDrinks]

Wow this last sentence looks like the fakest outrage in the history of outrages.

You just post an unvote without saying a damn thing about why and complain that people aren't following your reasoning?

I really couldn't care less if you think it's fake, and yeah, when

I've already explained myself multiple times

it's getting a little old.

links?

[Lalendra]

Also the Hopkirk claim was underwhelming, I'm glad he claimed but I was already townreading him so I was hoping it would be some other slot that would give me more info. I guess at least now I don't have to worry about wavering on that slot later.

[Flavor Leaf]

Lalendra, I didn’t have a single post in between. You just jumped from one point to another. It’s not that there wasn’t a reaction, i just wasn’t around

[Flavor Leaf]

Also the Hopkirk claim was underwhelming, I'm glad he claimed but I was already townreading him so I was hoping it would be some other slot that would give me more info. I guess at least now I don't have to worry about wavering on that slot later.

Yet you all forced the second mason to claim. There was literally no reason for it.

It would have EASILY been confirmed in a day or two. Never do that again.

[Lalendra]

Wow this last sentence looks like the fakest outrage in the history of outrages.

You just post an unvote without saying a damn thing about why and complain that people aren't following your reasoning?

I really couldn't care less if you think it's fake, and yeah, when

I've already explained myself multiple times

it's getting a little old.

links?

I explained my reasoning in both the original posts, and my responses to your questions. I'm not going to waste my time quoting my own ISO, go back and read it if there's something you don't get.

[Lalendra]

Lalendra, I didn’t have a single post in between. You just jumped from one point to another. It’s not that there wasn’t a reaction, i just wasn’t around

And you not being around is why I changed my SR on you.

[Lalendra]

Also the Hopkirk claim was underwhelming, I'm glad he claimed but I was already townreading him so I was hoping it would be some other slot that would give me more info. I guess at least now I don't have to worry about wavering on that slot later.

Yet you all forced the second mason to claim. There was literally no reason for it.

It would have EASILY been confirmed in a day or two. Never do that again.

We have yet to see whether it's a good or bad thing for town.

[Flavor Leaf]

Lalendra is very mislynchable. I think I’d rather let her live a day or so.

I think today need some to be GROB vs Penguin.