NY214: Project Pinecone (Game over! Town wins!)

[HitAlt]

hey hitalt
while we think about this
can we just wagon chickadee
that'd make me happy and still keep us on track

If they are scum they buss/quickhammer and we lose the chance to resolve this..?

VOTE: Chickadee #worried

[brassherald]

Oh, I probably named him Biff.

also, UNVOTE:

Inferno, I think you are wrong about Andrius.

[Raskolnikov]

You being protected implies that you think you were targeted to be shot, so can you walk me through your thought process here?

Taly hit claimed investigative, I know because I was going to lynch him otherwise.

[Andrius]

#TrustChrono

pedit: #ChronoxLucca

[Taly]

>Ausuka

is quickly rising to the town area, very much liking her coming to my level here.

>

I'm putting some faith in

Hit's

judgment, by association, it seems borderline impossible for him to be scum at this point.

>

I'm not buying

Andrius'

reasoning for the

dram

read but I don't have much confidence to push a read either way on him at the moment.

You being protected implies that you think you were targeted to be shot, so can you walk me through your thought process here?

Taly hit claimed investigative, I know because I was going to lynch him otherwise.

Wait what?

[brassherald]

#TrustBiff

pedit: #BiffxLucca

Ftfy

[Chickadee]

I see a lot of people voting/wanting to vote me. I'm just gonna claim. I feel I'm a good lynch either today, maaaaybe tomorrow, or never. I'm vengeful town. By all means vote me, but lets talk and get a lot of information out on the table first.

YAS

NICE SHOT VIG

In my experience most stabbings are serial killers?

Guys, I know TWO people who did a thing at night.
One of them was so loud I couldn't help but hear it, and the other one killed a dude. Or at least tried to.

How should we proceed - I do not wish to out our Vig and I'm not sure that one person being so noisy means anything alignment-wise..

Do you *know* someone tried to kill someone or is this speculation based on 'I know two people did things'.
There's a line here and we need to be careful because I *also* know things.

APPARENTLY ME AND CHICKADEE WERE GETTING "COZY" ON THE COUCH LAST NIGHT

And I also got a mysteriously-wrapped BANANA last night so whoever gave me that thanks for my daily supply of Potassium and Vitamin... whatever bananas give you.

Lemme think how I want to move forward with something. Give me a minute.

Stabbing is just something Pine is fond of.


And oh my. How did you know this? BecauseI did not know we were "cozy" on the couch.

VOTE: chickadee

did you
read my mind
because I would like to talk about her

Please do.

The only reads I was able to REASON/WRITE fully that immediately still stand after the Dram scumflip.

Raskolnikov

- I already stated that I liked his entrance, and in the past few days, they've been a lot more active with discussion. Most of their entire ISO revolves around looking beneath the surface on the playerlist, and his votes are well-justified. 964

the worst

vote - 1093 his length look into

hit

- 1252 and 1253 where he talks about how hammers help him while giving his assessment on

Andrius

. His thoughts are unique to the playerlist from what I've seen. He also outlines that he works off cases and makes what he's looking for clear. Very coherent.

xyzzy

- Reading xyzzy's ISO shows me that a lot of his wallposts were somewhat detached. He doesn't explicitly ask or start much dialogue with who he engages with, and a lot of his assessments seem generated on his own thinking. I feel like town would've been more pushy with vote on the

Hit

lynch given claim, but the final bits of

xyzzy's

posts of D1 don't even mention this.

Ausuka

- I understand

Ausuka's

been very frustrated with Mafia lately, but her lack of engagement and content could be used for a scum advantage, I don't want her slipping through this dayphase without a good bit of conversation.

Post-Flip Add-On: I like that she's posting more now.

the worst

-

the worst

has been almost borderline downplaying his thinking in this game. Posts like 1193 "let's sheep Andrius", the random posts that don't add content, and phrases like "I'm not a mechanics wizard" serve to be as a shield from putting forth his own insight. This D1 was widely frustrating for the playerlist, but I wasn't impressed with

TW's

contribution and his L-1 to

Flub

in 1282 on the same page I unvoted to avoid a hammer, felt very odd. His posts seem inconsistent from somewhat defending the

Flub

scumreads in 901 to questioning why it's even there. 1026

Post-Flip Add-On: I really want him to explain 1109, and what made him the Dram's claim was scum 1184

~~~

At the end of D1, I was beginning to question

Hit

-

Inferno

, but I feel better about them now.

I was feeling confident with

Chick, Andrius, MOI

-town, but I'm unsure at the moment.

I want to know why those 3 had issues with the

dram

wagon and the reasons for it in depth.

@Taly, Personally I believed the Dram claim. Without the claim, I probably would have been alright to switch to that wagon, but with the claim and the fact that I didn't read Dram well enough one way or the other, I didn't want to vote there.






VOTE: The Worst
Other than me, TW is the one that was really against the Dram wagon, and has kinda played off his fluff posting as "not wanting to clog the game thread." It kind of feels like hiding behind the chill nature of the game.

[Andrius]

> I'm not buying Andrius' reasoning for the dram read but I don't have much confidence to push a read either way on him at the moment.

would you like a personal history
I would write an essay if needbe

pedit: YOU BE QUIET OK. THIS IS AUSUKA AND MY STORY YOU LEAVE SPACEMAN BIFF OUT OF IT >:|

[Taly]

OH I MISREAD THAT POST

RASK

LOL

I THOUGHT YOU WERE SAYING I CLAIMED INVEST XD

[brassherald]

Didn't the worst vote Dram towards EoD, though?

[Andrius]

And oh my. How did you know this? BecauseI did not know we were "cozy" on the couch.

Pine told me.

VOTE: Unvote Easy. Thank you for your cooperation.

[Ausuka]

VOTE: The Worst
Other than me, TW is the one that was really against the Dram wagon, and has kinda played off his fluff posting as "not wanting to clog the game thread." It kind of feels like hiding behind the chill nature of the game.

What? TW has given more content than most people here. And how has he been even remotely against the dram wagon?




(also yeah chrono x lucca is basically canon)

[Chickadee]

Didn't the worst vote Dram towards EoD, though?

Nope

[Andrius]

I mean let's be honest. Maybe "cozy" was just us playing Charterstone or something.

(pedit: Isn't Chrono/Marle canon though?)

[Ausuka]

VOTE: dram

decided

????????????????????

[brassherald]

Didn't the worst vote Dram towards EoD, though?

Nope

Oh, poo, if this is right, get back out of my town block, duck!

[Ausuka]

(pedit: Isn't Chrono/Marle canon though?)

well yeah but it's canon to me

[Andrius]

HitAlt I'm good on my end.
#EverythingIsFine

pedit: <3

[Chickadee]

NVM, I just looked back and I'm wrong.


Still think the TW vote is warranted for now though

[Ausuka]

I'm honestly townleaning chickadee after this but like it's still probably optimal play to lynch her and get two lynches? maybe not if she will vengekill tw.

pedit: How? Why?

[Chickadee]

I'm honestly townleaning chickadee after this but like it's still probably optimal play to lynch her and get two lynches? maybe not if she will vengekill tw.

pedit: How? Why?

I'm open to talking about this. Although I do love shooting TW (in general).


But I do not fully trust myself to hit scum at the moment to be honest.

[Taly]

Yeah.

Hit

and

Inferno

are IC's to me at the moment.

Andrius

, I guess you could write an essay...?

Or better yet, you could explain to me why you townread

Dram

, I think I missed that.

@Taly, Personally I believed the Dram claim. Without the claim, I probably would have been alright to switch to that wagon, but with the claim and the fact that I didn't read Dram well enough one way or the other, I didn't want to vote there.

VOTE: The Worst
Other than me, TW is the one that was really against the Dram wagon, and has kinda played off his fluff posting as "not wanting to clog the game thread." It kind of feels like hiding behind the chill nature of the game.

I don't know if I agree with this exactly.

There was plenty of people expressing dislike for the

Dram

wagon or at least the votes on it.

And

TW

only unvoted the

Dram

wagon when I told him lynching a protective claim D1 was suboptimal.

[Ausuka]

Your points against tw were:
1) he was the other person against dram wagon (false: others were against dram wagon other than you and the worst was very much supportive of it)

2) he's fluffposting? which is like NAI and he's been giving a lot more content than a lot of people


I don't get how you can vote on tw after this? especially after he was one of the players leading the charge against dramonic, the mafia roleblocker.

[Andrius]

Chickadee is town we can move on now.

pedit: Ausuka, she's town.

[Raskolnikov]

I want hitalt thing to happen.
Vig claim in exchange for guilty is worth.