NY214: Project Pinecone (Game over! Town wins!)

[Raskolnikov]

Hitalt I'm more thinking of what the fruit vendors mean
Logically a role as such wouldn't be reliable because of the scum JK? (and people don't always claim fruit I guess)
Would there even be more roleblock in addition to scum partial JK?
Because if there was that potential to maybe false guilty via roleblock then the power isn't as strong as it would initially seem

[Raskolnikov]

I don't mean a roleish CC to TW (dangerous in a large idk not familiar enough to judge) but rather if someone directly claims dramonic shot that he does.

[Raskolnikov]

Actually loyal fruit vendor is useless now because anyone can claim to get fruit...

[Taly]

Big question right now - do we milk the Venge D2 or D3?

Because that'll affect my approach this dayphase.

[Raskolnikov]

Nvm it isn't because target is unaware so that's not possible.
Tomorrow we have a receive fruit rolecall. If it's the wrong people or if it's 3 people or if it's 1 person...

[HitAlt]

Big question right now - do we milk the Venge D2 or D3?

Because that'll affect my approach this dayphase.

I have Chickadee as a very strong "NO IDEA".
Could go either way - I was actually pondering whether I would've checked her last night.

[Inferno390]

I’m so lost at this point
I’m gonna have to find a computer and reread the day like 3 times to make sense of everything.
moI and Andy is still the scumteam tho.

[brassherald]

I didn't get a confirmation message for my BP.

[vote[the worst[/vote]

[brassherald]

VOTE: the worst

[Raskolnikov]

What does the (or lack thereof) confirmation message signify
@Hitalt Brassherald

[brassherald]

That the worst is lying, in my opinion.

[HeWhoSwims]

I didn't realise this started back up. Try to catch up soon.
. Sorry.

[Taly]

TW

is not groupscum.

dram's

wincon role PM implies a 3p faction.

[brassherald]

So, no lynch all liars?

[Taly]

How does this confirmatiion message work? And how does this activated BP work exactly?

[brassherald]

How does this confirmatiion message work? And how does this activated BP work exactly?

I have an amount of shots where I can choose to be bulletproof for the night.

I message Pine with my decision to become bulletproof for the night, if I have any shots left.

I am then immune to Nightkills on a night I activate.

I also did wait until Pine confirmed that I did validly activate my BP to make sure it wasn't just that I messed up my messages or something. I have confirmation of such facty.

I never got a message last night saying "action received". I doubt a mod would send it to one person, but not the others with an action.

[Raskolnikov]

Activated BP you just send the mod an activate message the night you want to use it usually.
IDK what this confirmation message supposedly is and what it would mean, it's possible hitalt was using bad phrasing or something and just asking TW if he knew he succeeded in his action/kill?

That role pm thing is unreliable as I think many games just do that.

[Raskolnikov]

I highly doubt "action received" or lack of such is ever an indicator of anything actually in a game but is more supposed to be an administrative semi out-of-the-game thing to help prevent mod error.

[Raskolnikov]

I don't even think a mechanic like that would even be normal although this game is already surprisingly wacky.

[brassherald]

Okay. I'm going to stop reading into that, then. I do just not see a single other person in this game shoot dram outside of myself and the worst and both myself and apparently hitalt know I didn't take that shot.

UNVOTE:

I mean, hitalt should really be thinking whether the other person he saw take a shot would have killed dram. Also, hitalt is not thinking at all he thinks I am an SK who didn't take a shot yesterday.

[Taly]

Fuck subtlety in this game, I'm not getting anywhere.

I think

TW

COULD

be an SK and I think if there's any doubt with

Chick's

alignment - while I think she's town - there's more to gain from her eventual lynch if she shoots scum

I'm only a quarter done with the

xyzzy-Elbirn-Sky

ISO group and I already want to throw up on myself. But they can't all numerically be scum.

The whole

Inferno V MOI

is old, fruitless, and a red herring

And I think the more town bicker about who's scum, what to do, and discuss roles, the more we'll fall down the rabbit hole.

I could vote

Chickadee

if we had a consensus on who she should shoot.
But part of me wants to wait D3 so the lynchpool size is lower.

So unless town magically syncs with reads, I don't see myself voting outside of

HWS-Sky-Elbirn-xyzzy

today.

[Inferno390]

No wait
I’m gonna claim now
Might be important
I’m a Town Vistor
My visits have no discernible effect
I visited dram last night
And I received no confirmation from Pine on the usage

[Taly]

Jesus christ what a shitshow

[Raskolnikov]

There's a way to do it by the book
If anyone counterclaims dramonic kill, as they should if they did then TW is just scum who tried to kill someone else but failed (the scum's killing action and not the killing scum dramonic action) and got forced into this claim.
If not then TW if confirmed vig or SK.
In that case maybe leash him idk. I think his read into kill of dramonic is kinda more town vig than SK. Maybe at some point try to give him a banana.

[brassherald]

Okay, so, just to wrap my head around the gamestate a bit.

We have an activated BP, a vengeful townie, a visitor, two loyal fruit vendors, a vig, and a detective who sees every kill attempt.

Have I missed a claim?