NY 213 - Game Over!

[Golden Robster]

busy irl so can't reply fully, but UNVOTE: wheme[\unvote].

still want lynch, just bad policy to run to l-1 preclaim

nobody would hammer preclaim unless they wanted to be lynched tomorrow

[Ircher]

Day 2 VC #31

Golden Robster (0) -
Creature (0) -
Kublai Khan (1) - Andriod18 (2533)

WhemeStar (10) (L-2) - Flavor Leaf (2958), PenguinPower (2962), Wavemode (

2966

3115), Hopkirk (3008), Kublai Khan (3027), JarJarDrinks (3030), Scioness Sajj (3034), Lalendra (3097), Golden Robster (3099), Vaxkiller (3112)

Hopkirk (0) -
EspeciallyTheLies (0) -
JarJarDrinks (1) - Dunnstral (2206)
Andriod18 (1) - Pine (1936)
Texcat (0) -
TehBrawlGuy (1) - Ausuka (3023)
Vaxkiller (0) -
Wavemode (0) -
PenguinPower (5) - EspeciallyTheLies (1996), Myloninja13 (2437), Creature (2835), WhemeStar (2930), Gamma Emerald (2990)
Myloninja13 (1) - Texcat (2552)
Scioness Sajj (0) -
Flavor Leaf (0) -
Not Voting (2) - Frozen Angel, TehBrawlGuy (3118)

Lynch Threshold

During day 2, it takes 12 votes to lynch a player.

Deadline

Day 2 ends on July 14, 2018 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2018-07-14 20:00:00).

Moderator Notes

WhemeStar is V/LA on July 14.
Prodded Andriod18. They have (expired on 2018-07-13 16:24:38) to respond in-thread.
Seeking a replacement for EspeciallyTheLies.

Unless I find a replacement before the end of the day, there are no plans to extend the day's deadline.

If you have consistent weekend V/LA, you must remind me every weekend, or I will prod you. Alternatively, you can set V/LA tags each weekend.
If you notice any mistakes, please point them out. (That includes looking at the voting history.)

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Day 2

Dunnstral: Myloninja13 (1942) --> JarJarDrinks (2206)
Golden Robster: Hopkirk (2078) --> (Null) (2096) --> PenguinPower (2112) --> Scioness Sajj (2152) --> Vaxkiller (2171) --> (Null) (2288) --> Creature (2299) --> WhemeStar (2304) --> Wavemode (2367) --> Scioness Sajj (2432) --> TehBrawlGuy (2526) --> Flavor Leaf (2642) --> (Null) (2783) --> PenguinPower (2979) --> WhemeStar (3099)
Pine: Andriod18 (1936)
Creature: Myloninja13 (1941) --> PenguinPower (2835)
Kublai Khan: Flavor Leaf (1944) --> (Null) (2366) --> Vaxkiller (2423) --> PenguinPower (2899) --> WhemeStar (3027)
WhemeStar: Vaxkiller (2245) --> JarJarDrinks (2301) --> Flavor Leaf (2542) --> PenguinPower (2930)
Hopkirk: Andriod18 (2197) --> Kublai Khan (2346) --> (Null) (2781) ==> (Null) (2782) --> WhemeStar (3008)
Gamma Emerald: Kublai Khan (2488) --> Golden Robster (2839) --> (Null) (2867) --> PenguinPower (2990)

Ausuka

: PenguinPower (1960) --> Myloninja13 (2434) --> Flavor Leaf (2504) --> (Null) (2573) --> Myloninja13 (2574) --> TehBrawlGuy (3023)
Lalendra: Vaxkiller (2184) --> JarJarDrinks (2334) --> Andriod18 (2503) --> Flavor Leaf (2657) --> (Null) (2705) --> PenguinPower (2809) --> WhemeStar (3097)
EspeciallyTheLies: PenguinPower (1996)
JarJarDrinks: Andriod18 (1945) --> EspeciallyTheLies (2041) --> (Null) (2066) --> Andriod18 (2192) --> Flavor Leaf (2327) --> (Null) (2612) --> Flavor Leaf (2640) --> (Null) (2755) --> Andriod18 (2943) --> WhemeStar (3030)
Andriod18: JarJarDrinks (2116) --> Kublai Khan (2533)
Texcat: ArcAngel9 (1987) --> Myloninja13 (2552)
ArcAngel9 (1): Texcat (2072)
TehBrawlGuy: (Null) (2535) --> Wavemode (2690) --> WhemeStar (3062) --> (Null) (3118)
Vaxkiller: WhemeStar (2343) --> Myloninja13 (2472) --> PenguinPower (3012) --> WhemeStar (3112)
Wavemode: Texcat (2044) --> Andriod18 (2331) --> Flavor Leaf (2635) --> (Null) (2800) --> WhemeStar (2966) ==> WhemeStar (3115)
PenguinPower: Myloninja13 (1947) --> Kublai Khan (2572) --> Flavor Leaf (2709) --> Myloninja13 (2759) --> Golden Robster (2775) --> (Null) (2894) --> WhemeStar (2962)
Myloninja13: PenguinPower (2437)
Scioness Sajj: Andriod18 (2904) --> WhemeStar (3034)
Flavor Leaf: JarJarDrinks (2205) --> Kublai Khan (2499) --> PenguinPower (2715) --> Golden Robster (2774) --> WhemeStar (2958)

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Day 1

Note: * = Hammer Vote

Note: ^ = Vote after hammer vote.

Dunnstral (5):

Osuka

(77) --> Texcat (1388) --> Lalendra (1623) -->

Osuka

(1758) -->

Performer

(1782)

Srceenplay

(0): (Null)

Performer

(5):

Osuka

(623) --> TheRampage (909) --> Wavemode (1051) --> Andriod18 (1765) -->

Performer

(1849)*

Joral

(0): (Null)

Almost50

(8): Hopkirk (97) --> Edosurist (226) -->

Osuka

(390) -->

Ausuka

(1205) --> (Null) (1304) --> Vaxkiller (1352) --> (Null) (1380) --> Andriod18 (1460)
Fumuki (0): (Null)
Golden Robster (13):

Almost50

(177) --> Wavemode (183) -->

Osuka

(236) -->

Ausuka (317)

--> JarJarDrinks (319) --> (Null) (546) --> Vaxkiller (602) --> (Null) (1504) --> Wavemode (1588) --> (Null) (1589) --> ArcAngel9 (1770) --> Andriod18 (1784) --> [[ost=1798](Null) (1798)[/post]
Pine (2):

Osuka

(176) --> Andriod18 (1835)
Creature (6):

Performer

(385) --> Myloninja13 (720) --> TheRampage (813) -->

Performer

(898) --> Andriod18 (1449) -->

Performer

(1846)
Kublai Khan (6):

Osuka

(76) -->

Almost50

(122) --> Scioness Sajj (388) --> JarJarDrinks (536) -->

Osuka

(725) -->

Performer

(957)
WhemeStar (3): Lalendra (234) --> JarJarDrinks (797) --> Flavor Leaf (955)
Hopkirk (9):

Osuka

(90) --> Lalendra (279) -->

Osuka

(696) --> (Null) (993) --> Wavemode (999) -->

Performer

(1273) --> (Null) (1315) -->

Performer

(1458) --> Andriod18 (1679)
Edosurist (2): Texcat (84) -->

Almost50

(222)
Gamma Emerald (3): Vaxkiller (710) --> Wavemode (1107) --> Andriod18 (1711) --> _{(Null) (1889)^}

Ausuka

(9): JarJarDrinks (89) --> Creature (104) --> Myloninja13 (429) --> (Null) (742) --> TheRampage (743) --> Wavemode (998) -->

Performer

(1604) --> Lalendra (1624) --> Andriod18 (1680)
Lalendra (3):

Almost50

(209) --> (Null) (559) -->

Performer

(1229)
EspeciallyTheLies (2):

Almost50

(83) -->

Performer

(515)
Lovebird (1): Edosurist (259)
Davesaz (1): Wavemode (1014)
Frozen Angel (3):

Performer

(1579) --> (Null) (1606) -->

Performer

(1814)
JarJarDrinks (8):

Osuka

(85) -->

Almost50

(114) --> Charles510 (186) --> Edosurist (231) -->

Osuka

(535) -->

Ausuka

(842) --> Wavemode (1112) --> Andriod18 (1410)

Osuka

(10): Wavemode (80) --> JarJarDrinks (124) --> ArcAngel9 (229) --> Pine (332) --> JarJarDrinks (353) -->

Performer

(769) --> TheRampage (771) -->

Performer

(1047) --> Vaxkiller (1359) -->

Performer

(1384)
Texcat (4):

Osuka

(79) --> Wavemode (1080) -->

Osuka

(1703) --> Andriod18 (1777)
Andriod18 (4): Kublai Khan (190) --> Lovebird (290) --> JarJarDrinks (855) -->

Performer

(1796)
ArcAngel9 (4): Texcat (81) --> TheRampage (223) --> Texcat (604) -->

Performer

(1397)
Charles510 (2): JarJarDrinks (87) --> (Null) (310)
Vaxkiller (8): JarJarDrinks (363) --> Scioness Sajj (389) --> Andriod18 (437) --> JarJarDrinks (532) --> Golden Robster (678) --> Wavemode (1078) --> TheRampage (1085) -->

Performer

(1116)
Wavemode (5): Texcat (82) --> Charles510 (131) --> (Null) (838) -->

Osuka

(867) -->

Performer

(1108)
TheRampage (3): Creature (100) --> (Null) (509) -->

Osuka

(681)
PenguinPower (1):

Performer

(1774)
Myloninja13 (4): Edosurist (233) --> JarJarDrinks (326) -->

Performer

(1554) --> Andriod18 (1787)
Scioness Sajj (4):

Ausuka

(406) --> (Null) (1325) -->

Performer

(1552) --> Andriod18 (1760)
Flavor Leaf (1): Andriod18 (1772)

Pre-Game

Dunnstral (2): Texcat (9) --> Pine (43)

Srceenplay

(1): Andriod18 (62)
Pine (1):

Osuka

(16)
Kublai Khan (1): Pine (34)
Hopkirk (1):

Osuka

(66)
Edosurist (1): Pine (42)

Osuka

(2): Pine (28) --> Wavemode (33)
Texcat (1): Pine (44)
Wavemode (1):

Osuka

(31)

[Gamma Emerald]

Hi, no one has justified this Wheme wagon yet
Someone do so or I'll be all over that wagon on a wheme townflip

vote-hopping, consistently being in the background while conveniently switching wagons when needed and given scant reasoning

when you ISO wheme do you think it comes from town or scum?

I missed that that was meant as an explanation. Idk about the presented logic being scum indicative without any context, could you help? And yeah I'll look into that ISO I guess.

[Ircher]

Prodding Pine for accumulating another two prod dodges. Also prodding Creature (2d 0h). They have (expired on 2018-07-14 15:25:53) to respond in-thread

with game-relevant content

(that applies only to Pine).

[Flavor Leaf]

Honestly, I’m staying on Wheme no matter what the claim is.

[Flavor Leaf]

If it’s a PR claim, I’m going to see it as a fake claim, if it’s a VT claim, I’m going to see it as either a fake claim or the correct move for the day because worst case scenario we lose a VT who has debatably the worst ISO sin the game.

[Flavor Leaf]

I literally had established town read on everyone on the wagon right now besides Lalendra, Penguin/GROB have their scummy moments, but both can be seen in a town light, so I’m willing to push past.

TehBrawl backing off looks like scum seeing if his partner could potentially get out of this with a good fake claim.

[Flavor Leaf]

Like, waiting for a claim is just going to cause issues and get us a potential no lynch, which is absolutely terrible after this day phase with the mason claims.

[Flavor Leaf]

Along with a couple other claims

[Flavor Leaf]

Ausuka, Pine, Texcat, Dunn, Android need to switch their votes to a non vanity. None of those are happening this day phase.

[TehBrawlGuy]

Heads up: I don't have internet ATM because of Frontier shenaniganry. I can mobile post so I'm still here but it'll be pretty stilted. Will address a18 hopefully tonight on my PC.

Seemssomeone got speedhammered with no claim recently in mini2010, and that was town on town, so I've got good reason to be wary on it.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Ausuka - TehBrawl guy seems to be subtly protecting while projecting a scum read on a Wheme. Wheme flipping scum lends towards TehBrawl scum pretty hard. You can get your lynch tomorrow.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Ausuka - TehBrawl guy seems to be subtly protecting while projecting a scum read on a Wheme. Wheme flipping scum lends towards TehBrawl scum pretty hard. You can get your lynch tomorrow.

[Flavor Leaf]

Heads up: I don't have internet ATM because of Frontier shenaniganry. I can mobile post so I'm still here but it'll be pretty stilted. Will address a18 hopefully tonight on my PC.

Seemssomeone got speedhammered with no claim recently in mini2010, and that was town on town, so I've got good reason to be wary on it.

This isn’t speed hammer. It’s been 13 days coming down to this. We have 1 day left...

[Flavor Leaf]

But I understand why scum you would want to use that as a reason to stay off of Wheme here.

[TehBrawlGuy]

Dude, I'm here, and I said I wanted to lynch him, chill out. I can just revote him after the claim or near deadline if he doesn't.

[Flavor Leaf]

Dude, I'm here, and I said I wanted to lynch him, chill out. I can just revote him after the claim or near deadline if he doesn't.

That’s precisely why I am scum reading you, tbh.

[JarJarDrinks]

wheme has posted on site within the last half hour.

[TehBrawlGuy]

Let me get this straight, you're scumreading me for not wanting to see a hammer before claim, when my most recent completed game had exactly that?

Do you not see why that makes no sense?

[Gamma Emerald]

wheme has posted on site within the last half hour.

LE YAWN
I've known others who would inadvertently not post in a game where they were near lynch as town (Aristophanes in his team mafia game anyone?)
tell me how this case is scum-indicative?

[JarJarDrinks]

I didn't think TBG unvoting was scummy. I agree it's good to stay out of hammer length.

But I think the response to FL is kind of scummy. I read it as him very much wanting towncred for the lynch.

[JarJarDrinks]

tell me how this case is scum-indicative?

I think the biggest indicator is what FL has stated: that the makeup of the wagon is good. Alot of people that seem scummy don't want wheme lynched. That be a red flag yo.

[Gamma Emerald]

wagon make-up doesn't really help
talk about what wheme has done, not other people

[TehBrawlGuy]

yes, I want all the town credit for lynching someone who I've stated I'm null on and only on because I hate the other wagons. Clearly.

Also that was more in reply to GR saying nobody would speedhammer, tbh.

[Hopkirk]

Where is scum here if any?
(Osuka (9) - Dunnstral (77), Texcat, Pine (176),

Almost50

(390), JarJarDrinks (535),

Performer

(623), TheRampage (681),

Hopkirk

(696), Kublai Khan (725))