Newbie 1881 - Game Over

[IcemanCh]

Iceman, who do you think Oka's insistence that the game go fast is scummy?

On this forum it's generally regarded as scummy. I kind of agree. The downfall of town is chaos, lack of information, or rushing things. All of our power is in the day when we can discuss and review comments. Speeding that up creates chaos and causes town to make mistakes, miss information, or not have a chance to review past comments for accuracy.

Basically speed only benefits scum.

Scum lurks in order to starve the town of information.
Scum creates and appeals to emotional responses in order to create chaos.
Scum insists on speed I'm order to force people to make mistakes.

[nancy]

UNVOTE:


I'm shocked that no one pointed out that FF was at L-2 from RVS. It took 2 pages?

So far I'm leaning Town on trinity. I've seen her scum game..... this game she feels more natural.

I don’t understand the big deal about being L-2. I thought L-1 was the important one, as then it just takes one more to lynch. Why would you be shocked?

What do you think about like, stuff that's going on right now Trinity?

[OkaPoka]

he is going out of his way to interject himself into conversations and attempts to make a genuine attempt at clarifying things that don't need to involve him

@ff maybe i did that subconsciously idk i promise it wasnt on purpose, whenever i read a post i ask myself do i want/need to answer this?

[IcemanCh]

Sorry typing in phone.


I'm going to bed so there won't be any more responses from me for a bit.

[Formerfish]

Iceman, who do you think Oka's insistence that the game go fast is scummy?

On this forum it's generally regarded as scummy. I kind of agree. The downfall of town is chaos, lack of information, or rushing things. All of our power is in the day when we can discuss and review comments. Speeding that up creates chaos and causes town to make mistakes, miss information, or not have a chance to review past comments for accuracy.

Basically speed only benefits scum.

Scum lurks in order to starve the town of information.
Scum creates and appeals to emotional responses in order to create chaos.
Scum insists on speed I'm order to force people to make mistakes.

This is the stuff I saw in our first game together. I like this a lot.

Ninja- or you did do it on purpose because youre scum!oka?

[OkaPoka]

trinity actually might be scum

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pedit: well isn't that kinda ur job to figure out

[Formerfish]

pedit: well isn't that kinda ur job to figure out

Isn't that kinda what i'm doing?

[OkaPoka]

yes

how are the results so far?

I'm getting the feeling they may be off but maybe you've done a retest so idk

[OkaPoka]

yeah i think trinity is scum, she hasn't really meaningful engaged with anyone without really being prompted to.
feels like she is reading the thread, answers any questions directed at her and then disappears
town would be more proactive imo

VOTE: trinity
ff might hate me for voting her already but i don't really have questions for her

[nancy]

he is going out of his way to interject himself into conversations and attempts to make a genuine attempt at clarifying things that don't need to involve him

Would be really helpful if you could quote posts where you think he's doing that, and maybe like, say some more words about this maybe? I'm not super in love with your reasoning I guess.

[OkaPoka]

huh?

Your unvote is weird.

Why was it weird? He just pointed out that trinity voting brought me to l-2, and his vote was on me as well. Since his vote on me was in rvs and we are clearly out of it, it would make sense to move or at least remove a rvs vote which is currently the leading wagon based solely off of rvs votes.

has iceman even posted?


also, I dont like the fact that you are asking about a scumteam of 2 people(that might be newbies. I dont know) and have had almost zero thread presence

C'mon, its not a huge deal to make that joke. And Iceman had posted at that point, mostly to say that he wasn't forgetting about the game. He seems to be here now. I have like 2 games played with him recently. We'll see whats up with him.

what joke??

Oka made a joke about the scum team being the 2 people who havent really posted much. In a newbie that could very well be what happens sometimes. Town has a want to get out there and meet each other. We want to size each other up, really get each others weight. We can only really do that by being right next to them, or as I know it to be called, dancing. This is how I town hunt and where I get my reads from. Scum has to be weary of everything they do each time they interact with people because its all a lie. What scum says to one person they have to say to all, and when you are lying lies tend to build on themselves until there is this invisible web. Then you have town people who start to dive into every word someone has posted and you start to see the web being built over time. Thats why is so hard for scum to hide forever, and why newbie scum try to hide until they cant anymore.

@nancy

i mean he even was suspicious of me at the time but felt a need to clarify some of things i said even if i personally didn't actually mean those things

scum wouldn't really have motivation to do this imo
town would want to have the truth out there

[nancy]

yeah i think trinity is scum, she hasn't really meaningful engaged with anyone without really being prompted to.
feels like she is reading the thread, answers any questions directed at her and then disappears
town would be more proactive imo

VOTE: trinity
ff might hate me for voting her already but i don't really have questions for her

Am slightly worried about her myself, kinda just hoping she comes alive at some point soonish.

[nancy]

huh?

Your unvote is weird.

Why was it weird? He just pointed out that trinity voting brought me to l-2, and his vote was on me as well. Since his vote on me was in rvs and we are clearly out of it, it would make sense to move or at least remove a rvs vote which is currently the leading wagon based solely off of rvs votes.

has iceman even posted?


also, I dont like the fact that you are asking about a scumteam of 2 people(that might be newbies. I dont know) and have had almost zero thread presence

C'mon, its not a huge deal to make that joke. And Iceman had posted at that point, mostly to say that he wasn't forgetting about the game. He seems to be here now. I have like 2 games played with him recently. We'll see whats up with him.

what joke??

Oka made a joke about the scum team being the 2 people who havent really posted much. In a newbie that could very well be what happens sometimes. Town has a want to get out there and meet each other. We want to size each other up, really get each others weight. We can only really do that by being right next to them, or as I know it to be called, dancing. This is how I town hunt and where I get my reads from. Scum has to be weary of everything they do each time they interact with people because its all a lie. What scum says to one person they have to say to all, and when you are lying lies tend to build on themselves until there is this invisible web. Then you have town people who start to dive into every word someone has posted and you start to see the web being built over time. Thats why is so hard for scum to hide forever, and why newbie scum try to hide until they cant anymore.

@nancy

i mean he even was suspicious of me at the time but felt a need to clarify some of things i said even if i personally didn't actually mean those things

scum wouldn't really have motivation to do this imo
town would want to have the truth out there

Hmmm, I think I like this a little bit actually, yeah.

[TrinityNZ]

UNVOTE:


I'm shocked that no one pointed out that FF was at L-2 from RVS. It took 2 pages?

So far I'm leaning Town on trinity. I've seen her scum game..... this game she feels more natural.

I don’t understand the big deal about being L-2. I thought L-1 was the important one, as then it just takes one more to lynch. Why would you be shocked?

What do you think about like, stuff that's going on right now Trinity?

I’m still catching up on reading, there are a lot of posts! Will post soon.

[Messiah Complex]

yes

how are the results so far?

I'm getting the feeling they may be off but maybe you've done a retest so idk

I mean uhhh... not great

I would love to hear from anyone else regarding Oka, or am I just yelling out the window?

[Formerfish]

yes

how are the results so far?

I'm getting the feeling they may be off but maybe you've done a retest so idk

I mean uhhh... not great

I would love to hear from anyone else regarding Oka, or am I just yelling out the window?

Damn the man!

Sorry.

[nancy]

UNVOTE:


I'm shocked that no one pointed out that FF was at L-2 from RVS. It took 2 pages?

So far I'm leaning Town on trinity. I've seen her scum game..... this game she feels more natural.

I don’t understand the big deal about being L-2. I thought L-1 was the important one, as then it just takes one more to lynch. Why would you be shocked?

What do you think about like, stuff that's going on right now Trinity?

I’m still catching up on reading, there are a lot of posts! Will post soon.

My breath, so very bated!

[nancy]

yes

how are the results so far?

I'm getting the feeling they may be off but maybe you've done a retest so idk

I mean uhhh... not great

I would love to hear from anyone else regarding Oka, or am I just yelling out the window?

Damn the man!

Sorry.

I'll yell back soon dw lmao

[TrinityNZ]

yeah i think trinity is scum, she hasn't really meaningful engaged with anyone without really being prompted to.
feels like she is reading the thread, answers any questions directed at her and then disappears
town would be more proactive imo

VOTE: trinity
ff might hate me for voting her already but i don't really have questions for her

Quite right, I don’t spend 24 hours a day on this site I will come in, read the posts, answer any questions, and do what I can in the time I have, and will then go and do real life stuff for a while. I think I’m also in a different time zone to everyone else. I don’t know if I’m allowed to say where I live?

You saying that I seem scummy for trying to participate the best I can, and not just lurking, makes me think you are the scummy one and looking for any excuse to vote for me.

Why would FF hate you for voting for me?

[TrinityNZ]

yeah i think trinity is scum, she hasn't really meaningful engaged with anyone without really being prompted to.
feels like she is reading the thread, answers any questions directed at her and then disappears
town would be more proactive imo

VOTE: trinity
ff might hate me for voting her already but i don't really have questions for her

Quite right, I don’t spend 24 hours a day on this site I will come in, read the posts, answer any questions, and do what I can in the time I have, and will then go and do real life stuff for a while. I think I’m also in a different time zone to everyone else. I don’t know if I’m allowed to say where I live?

You saying that I seem scummy for trying to participate the best I can, and not just lurking, makes me think you are the scummy one and looking for any excuse to vote for me.

Why would FF hate you for voting for me?

[nancy]

You're allowed to say where you live but there is really no point.

[OkaPoka]

yeah im kinda am looking for reasons to vote people because im trying to find scum in a game where im getting town vibes from most

FF might hate me b/c he wants me to tango before i fire

i think trinity lives in new zealand but that might be reaching

[TrinityNZ]

You're allowed to say where you live but there is really no point.

I guess the point is just to give an idea of the time differences - your evening when you post a lot is usually when I’m at work, so I probably won’t be participating. It’s Saturday afternoon now, so I have some time

Yes, New Zealand

[nancy]

Trinity, lmao, your location is listed under your join date. We already know. I thought you meant like, saying you live in Christchurch or something lmao.

[TrinityNZ]

Sorry, not sure how I managed to post the same thing twice below.

Did I miss something - Messiah Complex is someone new?

Ok, so FF, I know my vote for you was initially a random one, but I’m now starting to think you might actually be mafia. You seem to be playing a completely different way in this game. You were really aggressive then -you were like a dog with a bone in grilling people. I know, because I was mafia, and you scared me. This game, you don’t seem to be doing that at all. You even said that you didn’t like how someone else ( I think Oka) was being aggressive. It’s just not ringing true for me, so I’m leaving my vote with you, it’s a real one now.

I was suspicious of iceman a few posts back, especially as FF was defending him, and I felt that the ‘voting IC’ post was a bit strange, but I’m happy with the explanation and his later posts, and so think he’s town.

I have scum leans towards OkaPoka, because of the scumread and vote on me, and also Flicker, and strong town lean towards Nancy. Eragon has been pretty active since coming on and has put in a lot of effort, so I’m reading town on him.