Labyrinth Mafia (Endgame)

WhemeStar · Post Post #4000 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:10 pm

BUT WHY DOES SCUM SAJJ SAY SHES BEEN JK???

Wisdom · Post Post #4001 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:14 pm

all i know is that you and random are town
Idk anymore about tw and wheme
Shoshin continues feeling like she wants to force her agentas through

@nancy

Shoshin · Post Post #4002 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:17 pm

In post 3997, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Hai, been away, just got back. So Reality NK is interesting. Why her over Sajj, me, Shoshin? Reality wanted Sajj dead and wh did she lie abour being 1-shot? That makes no sense.

Why would scum kill me when half the players were pushing for my mislynch?

Why did scum kill Reality? The most likely reason is that scum didn't want to kill the person I was protecting because they wanted Sajj to kill me or they wanted to leave me alive to be mislynched. Scum know that I'm probably protecting you or Sajj, so they don't kill either of you. Instead, they kill a townie who I'm probably not protecting (i.e. Reality).

Do we really believe that RC took not one but two nights to inform her of redirect?

Why would Sajj lie about that? Even if she were scum (she's probably not), she has no reason to lie about that.

Shoshin’s argument is entirely based on what Sajj is/has claimed.

It's based on more than that. I know with certainty that you were redirected because I didn't receive any sort of indication that you targeted me. And we can assume that scum redirected you to town for the reasons I explained earlier (I can go over those again if you need further clarification). We also know that scum didn't redirect you to TBG, Nico, or Shepard, and nobody countered Sajj's claim. So, Sajj was telling the truth that you were redirected to her and that means Sajj is likely town.

It’s also interesting that Chick claimed to have investigated Sajj.

That's probably true. She was an identity cop, after all.

If Sajj were town, she should be dead not Reality.

As I've already said, scum would not kill Sajj because of the chance that I was protecting Sajj. Again, think about this from scum's perspective. Scum thought that Sajj was going to kill me or they wanted to leave me alive for a mislynch, so they wanted to avoid killing the person I was protecting. The worst-case scenario for scum is killing the person I'm protecting, because if they kill me they lose a mislynch opportunity.

I’m trying to determine if Shoshin is w/w with Sajj or just clueless.

Neither of us is scum. I've explained exactly why all the evidence shows that we're town. Please review.

At this point, I'm doing my best to get you to LYLO. I hope you live up to your reputation and make the right call about this. But please please go through all these pieces of evidence I'm bringing up and think about them.

Town!Sajj would have absolutely come clean before D5, if only for fear of NK. Soshin said that Sajj or me would be the NK.

Why would scum Sajj lie about this? What's her plan when I don't die?

Wisdom · Post Post #4003 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:18 pm

In post 3911, Shoshin wrote:As for the hood, why are we assuming that Chick and Random didn't fake being in a hood together? Why couldn't Chick be in the same hood with Reality/Wheme? And Random just be scum who isn't even in a hood?

this makes absolutely no sense
Reality and Wheme shared a neighborhood because they also shared a role, chick had no reason to be there
Reality wouldnt lie about it
Just accept random is town instead of trying to find ways for him to be scum

Shoshin · Post Post #4004 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:20 pm

Wisdom, I'm not saying Reality lied about anything... Reality was the one who suggested that scum had access to their neighborhood...

Shoshin · Post Post #4005 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:21 pm

Anyway, I'm not sure about Random anymore. I'm certain that scum are among Random, Wisdom, Wheme, and the worst. But I have no clue who the scum is among them.

Wisdom · Post Post #4006 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:22 pm

Shoshin wrote:Wisdom, I'm not saying Reality lied about anything... Reality was the one who suggested that scum had access to their neighborhood...

quote?

Shoshin · Post Post #4007 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:22 pm

In post 4006, Wisdom wrote:
Shoshin wrote:Wisdom, I'm not saying Reality lied about anything... Reality was the one who suggested that scum had access to their neighborhood...
quote?

Why do you think Reality thought I could be scum? I'll find the quote but I thought you had read the game...

ISO · Post Post #4008 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:23 pm

In post 4005, Shoshin wrote:I'm certain that scum are among Random, Wisdom, Wheme, and the worst.

every player
except the conftown
and Sajj

why are you locktown on Sajj I don't understand

Shoshin · Post Post #4009 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:23 pm

In post 3351, Reality Check wrote:It requires neighborhood access though, otherwise there's no motivation to protect Nico as scum.

WhemeStar · Post Post #4010 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:24 pm

Random wanted Shoshin dead

I said no to that in the pt

ISO · Post Post #4011 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:25 pm

VOTE: Sajj

will be in literal shock of this is town tbh

WhemeStar · Post Post #4012 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:25 pm

Ank said Shoshin open wolfed

WhemeStar · Post Post #4013 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:26 pm

They were going to target Shoshin I think

ISO · Post Post #4014 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:26 pm

can we lynch Shosh? that'd be like 100000 Christmases but Sajj is scum before her

Shoshin · Post Post #4015 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:27 pm

In post 4008, the worst wrote:why are you locktown on Sajj I don't understand

1. Scum don't redirect a random townie to scum, they redirect a random townie to town. Scum redirected Nancy to Sajj. Thus, Sajj is town.

2. I don't think scum have a 1-shot vig along with a 1-shot strongman and redirector.

3. Sajj has been playing townish since D2, especially the way she was responding to Reality's case on me from D2 and her play afterwards. The way she was critical of the Angel lynch was townish. In general, town via behaviors.

4. I don't think scum lie about being a 1-shot vig and then choose not to kill me, because that needlessly exposes them. If Sajj were scum, she would have killed me last night.

Shoshin · Post Post #4016 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:28 pm

In post 4010, WhemeStar wrote:Random wanted Shoshin dead

I said no to that in the pt

What are you talking about?

ISO · Post Post #4017 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:28 pm

hold on scum redirected Nancy to Sajj? I thought she targeted Sajj...

Shoshin · Post Post #4018 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:29 pm

In post 4017, the worst wrote:hold on scum redirected Nancy to Sajj? I thought she targeted Sajj...

I've been saying this multiple times. Why aren't you reading? Holy fuck this is annoying.

ISO · Post Post #4019 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:29 pm

In post 4015, Shoshin wrote:4. I don't think scum lie about being a 1-shot vig and then choose not to kill me, because that needlessly exposes them. If Sajj were scum, she would have killed me last night.

this makes no sense

All of your 4 points just....... sound like things scum could easily do and I disagree that her play got townier

Nancy Drew 39 · Post Post #4020 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:29 pm

In post 4011, the worst wrote:VOTE: Sajj

will be in literal shock of this is town tbh

Agree.

VOTE: Sajj

ISO · Post Post #4021 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:30 pm

dude stop being a pain in the ass and talk to me. how do we know she was redirected?

ISO · Post Post #4022 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:30 pm

o was that a hammer or

Shoshin · Post Post #4023 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:30 pm

Wow.

Nancy targeted me.

Sajj received the message.

Shoshin · Post Post #4024 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:31 pm

What a joke of a game. Nobody reads. Nobody pays attention. Like wtf.