Newbie 1881 - Game Over

[nancy]

You don't even know why I'm scumreading Flicker.

[nancy]

Or was, anyway.

[WhyMafia]

nancy I responded to why I shifted about Oka ;p

[OkaPoka]

You are voting flicker, I don't think its a leap to assume you are at least leaning scum on flicker.

I'm not going to ignore things that might point to trinity!town, but I'm also not going to stand here and ignore things that make trinity scum.

[OkaPoka]

Or was, anyway.

are you going to vote me soon?

people normally don't make these types of post and then mellow out.

[WhyMafia]

I do not support a day one Oka Lynch

[WhyMafia]

At least not at the moment

[WhyMafia]

Hey Oka - hypothetically if lynching Trinity was impossible who would be on the chopping block for you?

[OkaPoka]

I don't know.

[nancy]

Or was, anyway.

are you going to vote me soon?

people normally don't make these types of post and then mellow out.

Spoiler:

[WhyMafia]

Have you looked into anyone but Trinity recently?

[Eragon]

Trinity ISO. sorry for the wait

Spoiler:

I liked the tone of Trinity's posts in the beginning of the Day, so i had a slight town lean there



Then, once oka started to SR her, she got really defensives and p.much OMGUS'd without even counter-acting the accusations

yeah i think trinity is scum, she hasn't really meaningful engaged with anyone without really being prompted to.
feels like she is reading the thread, answers any questions directed at her and then disappears
town would be more proactive imo

VOTE: trinity
ff might hate me for voting her already but i don't really have questions for her

Quite right, I don’t spend 24 hours a day on this site I will come in, read the posts, answer any questions, and do what I can in the time I have, and will then go and do real life stuff for a while. I think I’m also in a different time zone to everyone else. I don’t know if I’m allowed to say where I live?

You saying that I seem scummy for trying to participate the best I can, and not just lurking, makes me think you are the scummy one and looking for any excuse to vote for me.

Why would FF hate you for voting for me?

Sorry, not sure how I managed to post the same thing twice below.

Did I miss something - Messiah Complex is someone new?

Ok, so FF, I know my vote for you was initially a random one, but I’m now starting to think you might actually be mafia. You seem to be playing a completely different way in this game. You were really aggressive then -you were like a dog with a bone in grilling people. I know, because I was mafia, and you scared me. This game, you don’t seem to be doing that at all. You even said that you didn’t like how someone else ( I think Oka) was being aggressive. It’s just not ringing true for me, so I’m leaving my vote with you, it’s a real one now.

I was suspicious of iceman a few posts back, especially as FF was defending him, and I felt that the ‘voting IC’ post was a bit strange, but I’m happy with the explanation and his later posts, and so think he’s town.

I have scum leans towards OkaPoka, because of the scumread and vote on me, and also Flicker, and strong town lean towards Nancy. Eragon has been pretty active since coming on and has put in a lot of effort, so I’m reading town on him.

These 2 posts, and a few others i didnt quote




also, this post pinged me a bit

Basically I think there's a good chance of Scum in FF and Flicker, don't know why that is difficult to understand.

Yes, finally, someone else seeing scum in FF.

because, ive explained it before, but it seems like Scum that wants to pull off a mis-lynch, but is the only one SR'ing that person, so when someone else SR's that person, they are happy.

However, this is borderline TWTBAW
(i hate using TWTBAW as a reason, but i dont really see scum posting this because it draws negative attention)

Pretty sure I believe what I'm saying.

I'm throwing shade on you cuz I isod you.after abandoning Iceman case, think I found a decent scum chance here, hoping it would gain traction and yeah I guess I don't want to be lynched, but does anyone? As for the heat, I mean interacting directly.with others is the easiest way to develop reads on them for me

OK but you’re going down the wrong track with me, you should be directing your energies to someone who actually looks like scum. That’s why you’re looking a bit suspicious

i also dont like this post because it is another OMGUS by basically just brushing off "Oh, im not scum, look at someone else who looks like scum”

Uhm. I don't understand this approach from you at all Trinity. What.

i guess I’m just not understanding why OkaPoka is scum reading me, I don’t think I’ve given any reasons for it. I’m suggesting that we instead look for the actual scum.

Okay let's start here. What part about his scumread on you do you not understand?

OK, I found the question you asked. (A) If Oka is scum, I do understand why he’s looking for reasons to try to scum read me. (B) If he’s town, I don’t believe I look like mafia, as I think I have been contributing to the best of my ability to trying to find scum, and am very open (I think you called me guileless).

sometimes its hard, but if someone SR's you you just need to do what it takes to stop the SR.
ill admit Oka was being a bit hard on your activity, but that doesnt give you a reason to just brush it off by saying "look at someone else thats actually scum" and OMGUS

some people, including myself to an extent, feel that being overly defensive is indicative of scum alignment

Would it not be fair to say that town could be defensive too, perhaps if they’re feeling that their words are deliberately being twisted or they’re being made to look bad by scum trying to get a mislynch?

defensive is one thing

completely ignoring and brushing off an argument with an OMGUS and "im not wolf" is another thing entirely

Conclusion

Scum or TWTBAW.

i know this seems fencesitty, but i have a hard time distinguishing btwn those 2, if i had to choose i would say scum

[WhyMafia]

I'm not saying Trinity is impossible to Lynch, but don't get tunnel minded - Try to evaluate your other scum reads as well

[OkaPoka]

Have you looked into anyone but Trinity recently?

I haven't done an iso dive on anyone else but trinity, I've just been reading the thread and waiting to see if anything catches my attention.

[Eragon]

ill be around for like, another 5-10 minutes but i dont think i have time to do another ISO.

[nancy]

Eragon, who are you voting right now and why?

[nancy]

The answer to that question is no one, and I think the reason you haven't voted anyone is because you're mafia.

Vote: Eragon

[WhyMafia]

thank you for seeing the light <3

[Eragon]

recently i havent had time to really mark out my reads cuz ive been busy and will be.

would it help to throw out a semi-educated vote?

do you WANT me to throw out a semi-educated vote?

[WhyMafia]

recently i havent had time to really mark out my reads cuz ive been busy and will be.

would it help to throw out a semi-educated vote?

do you WANT me to throw out a semi-educated vote?

scum

[OkaPoka]

@nancy are you going to build a case?

[WhyMafia]

would it help to throw out a semi-educated vote?

do you WANT me to throw out a semi-educated vote?

like
I dont see this coming from town
ever


????

it doesn't matter what we want, you haven't committed to anything the entire game ... even when you weren't V/LA. Yeah, you said you don't believe in pressure votes, but you also called people scum and said two people were worth voting but you didn't wanna put em on L-2. They've been off L-2 for a long time and you've just posted content over and over. I've seen you make analysis. I've seen you call people scum. But you have 0 drive, and 0 attempts at flushing out scum reads. You're not committing to anything, and the fact that you say if we want a semi-educated vote?? like that's only out of self-preservation after nancy votes you. Why didn't you choose to vote in the first place, if you're willing to vote now?

[WhyMafia]

Idk if that's worded well so tell me if you need clarification

[nancy]

recently i havent had time to really mark out my reads cuz ive been busy and will be.

would it help to throw out a semi-educated vote?

do you WANT me to throw out a semi-educated vote?

You've had scumreads on Oka, Flicker and Iceman, but you've never voted one of them.

It's not about being educated. It's about you, as town, thinking that someone is scum and wanting to push on them to validate that feeling.

You haven't done that.

And what I sense from that is that maybe you don't have that drive because maybe you just aren't town.

If you are town, and there's a reason for this behavior, then please explain it.

[Eragon]

http://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/vi ... 17&t=86482

this is a game i played a few weeks back as town, in the second post i believe, are ISO's, if you read my ISO the first true vote(non-RVS) is on page 12/17,

meaning nearly 125 of my posts went by without me placing a vote.(and even that one was just to make sure someone else wasnt lynched)

it is my norm to not place a vote until i have time to explain stuff, have a good solid reason, or i am confident in my read