NY 213 - Game Over!

[Gamma Emerald]

I felt like he was trying to play up how uninvested he was in the game, his constant "oh I didn't realize that haha guess I'm not paying attention" didn't seem genuine. Seemed more like scum who knew exactly who everyone was and was trying to fake ignorance. Also,

FL scumread him, and he was my top townread after the mason claim was confirmed by Hopkirk.

Well of course he's your top townread, he was confirmed mason. Are you saying he's over Hopkirk, despite scum masons not being possible? Like the specification makes me go wtf.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Scioness not really suspecting mylo but him giving a full on pass based off such a plain post is just wtf-worthy

fair, do you actually have a read on mylo?

honestly I kinda think he might be town but I'm not sure, I really want him to post content though

[Gamma Emerald]

Im going to go ahead and say "Claim"

Just because Vax escaped the lynch once by claiming vig, does not mean this isn't scum.

And I'd assume that there'd be at least a scum off the wagon and another near the end of it too.

nice I agree

mylon gets a pass d3

seriously? off of such a vanilla copypasta response? no thanks

Surely Robster just forgot to hold up the sarcasm sign, no?

@Scioness not really suspecting mylo but him giving a full on pass based off such a plain post is just wtf-worthy

fair, do you actually have a read on mylo?

There's certainly not much there to have a read on, but what is there is scummy as all get out.

hi why are you responding to questions directed at others

[Golden Robster]

You mean that was not sarcasm? Some scum were on the wagon, and some scum were off the wagon. It's hard to disagree with that, but you give him a pass? You don't scum read him. Does that mean you're town reading him?

yes

if you vote dunn you can get a pass d3 as well

it's a good deal

[Ircher]

Day 3 VC #8

Dunnstral (2) - Golden Robster (3559), Myloninja13 (3765)
Creature (1) - Kublai Khan (3511)

Lalendra (6) - Hopkirk (3661), Ausuka (3677), PenguinPower (3678), Tchill13 (3690), Wavemode (3716), JarJarDrinks (3721)

JarJarDrinks (1) - TehBrawlGuy (3466)
Texcat (2) - Creature (3744), Scioness Sajj (3756)
TehBrawlGuy (1) - Lalendra (3719)
Myloninja13 (2) - Dunnstral (3463), Texcat (3637)
Not Voting (5) - Frozen Angel, Ankamius, Gamma Emerald, Pine, Vaxkiller

Lynch Threshold

During day 3, it takes 11 votes to lynch a player.

Deadline

Day 3 ends on July 24, 2018 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2018-07-24 20:00:00).

Moderator Notes

If you have consistent weekend V/LA, you must remind me every weekend, or I will prod you. Alternatively, you can set V/LA tags each weekend.

Pine has (expired on 2018-07-18 22:33:18) to post content in-thread, or I will seek a replacement.

PenguinPower is V/LA from July 19 to July 22.
If you notice any mistakes, please point them out. (That includes looking at the voting history.)

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Day 3

Dunnstral: Myloninja13 (3463)
Golden Robster: Dunnstral (3559)
Creature: Texcat (3472) --> Lalendra (3681) --> Texcat (3744)
Kublai Khan: Creature (3511)
Hopkirk: Lalendra (3661)

Ausuka

: Myloninja13 (3640) --> Lalendra (3677)
Lalendra: TehBrawlGuy (3719)
Tchill13: Lalendra (3690)
JarJarDrinks: Creature (3616) --> (Null) (3694) --> Lalendra (3695) --> Dunnstral (3704) --> Lalendra (3721)
Texcat: Myloninja13 (3637)
TehBrawlGuy: JarJarDrinks (3466)
Wavemode: TehBrawlGuy (3468) --> Lalendra (3716)
PenguinPower: Texcat (3473) --> Myloninja13 (3643) --> Lalendra (3678)
Myloninja13: Dunnstral (3765)
Scioness Sajj: Texcat (3756)

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Day 2

Note: * - Hammer Vote

Dunnstral (4): Myloninja13 (1942) --> JarJarDrinks (2206) --> PenguinPower (3242) --> TehBrawlGuy (3248)
Golden Robster (17): Hopkirk (2078) --> (Null) (2096) --> PenguinPower (2112) --> Scioness Sajj (2152) --> Vaxkiller (2171) --> (Null) (2288) --> Creature (2299) -->

WhemeStar

(2304) --> Wavemode (2367) --> Scioness Sajj (2432) --> TehBrawlGuy (2526) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2642) --> (Null) (2783) --> PenguinPower (2979) -->

WhemeStar

(3099) --> (Null) (3284) -->

WhemeStar

(3286)
Pine (1): Andriod18 (1936)
Creature (3): Myloninja13 (1941) --> PenguinPower (2835) -->

WhemeStar

(3453*)
Kublai Khan (5):

Flavor Leaf

(1944) --> (Null) (2366) --> Vaxkiller (2423) --> PenguinPower (2899) -->

WhemeStar

(3027)

WhemeStar

(4): Vaxkiller (2245) --> JarJarDrinks (2301) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2542) --> PenguinPower (2930)
Hopkirk (5): Andriod18 (2197) --> Kublai Khan (2346) --> (Null) (2781) ==> (Null) (2782) -->

WhemeStar

(3008)
Gamma Emerald (5): Kublai Khan (2488) --> Golden Robster (2839) --> (Null) (2867) --> PenguinPower (2990) -->

WhemeStar

(3318)

Ausuka

(7): PenguinPower (1960) --> Myloninja13 (2434) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2504) --> (Null) (2573) --> Myloninja13 (2574) --> TehBrawlGuy (3023) -->

WhemeStar

(3293)
Lalendra (7): Vaxkiller (2184) --> JarJarDrinks (2334) --> Andriod18 (2503) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2657) --> (Null) (2705) --> PenguinPower (2809) -->

WhemeStar

(3097)
EspeciallyTheLies (1): PenguinPower (1996)
JarJarDrinks (10): Andriod18 (1945) --> EspeciallyTheLies (2041) --> (Null) (2066) --> Andriod18 (2192) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2327) --> (Null) (2612) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2640) --> (Null) (2755) --> Andriod18 (2943) -->

WhemeStar

(3030)
Andriod18 (2): JarJarDrinks (2116) --> Kublai Khan (2533)
Texcat (2): ArcAngel9 (1987) --> Myloninja13 (2552)
ArcAngel9 (1): Texcat (2072)
TehBrawlGuy (7): (Null) (2535) --> Wavemode (2690) -->

WhemeStar

(3062) --> (Null) (3118) -->

WhemeStar

(3165) --> (Null) (3196) -->

WhemeStar

(3233)
Vaxkiller (5):

WhemeStar

(2343) --> Myloninja13 (2472) --> PenguinPower (3012) -->

WhemeStar

(3112) --> PenguinPower (3290)
Wavemode (6): Texcat (2044) --> Andriod18 (2331) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2635) --> (Null) (2800) -->

WhemeStar

(2966) ==>

WhemeStar

(3115)
PenguinPower (7): Myloninja13 (1947) --> Kublai Khan (2572) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2709) --> Myloninja13 (2759) --> Golden Robster (2775) --> (Null) (2894) -->

WhemeStar

(2962)
Myloninja13 (1): PenguinPower (2437)
Scioness Sajj (3): Andriod18 (2904) -->

WhemeStar

(3034) --> PenguinPower (3255)

Flavor Leaf

(5): JarJarDrinks (2205) --> Kublai Khan (2499) --> PenguinPower (2715) --> Golden Robster (2774) -->

WhemeStar

(2958)

Day 1

Note: * = Hammer Vote

Note: ^ = Vote after hammer vote.

Dunnstral (5):

Osuka

(77) --> Texcat (1388) --> Lalendra (1623) -->

Osuka

(1758) -->

Performer

(1782)

Srceenplay

(0): (Null)

Performer

(5):

Osuka

(623) --> TheRampage (909) --> Wavemode (1051) --> Andriod18 (1765) -->

Performer

(1849)*

Joral

(0): (Null)

Almost50

(8): Hopkirk (97) --> Edosurist (226) -->

Osuka

(390) -->

Ausuka

(1205) --> (Null) (1304) --> Vaxkiller (1352) --> (Null) (1380) --> Andriod18 (1460)
Fumuki (0): (Null)
Golden Robster (13):

Almost50

(177) --> Wavemode (183) -->

Osuka

(236) -->

Ausuka (317)

--> JarJarDrinks (319) --> (Null) (546) --> Vaxkiller (602) --> (Null) (1504) --> Wavemode (1588) --> (Null) (1589) --> ArcAngel9 (1770) --> Andriod18 (1784) --> (Null) (1798)
Pine (2):

Osuka

(176) --> Andriod18 (1835)
Creature (6):

Performer

(385) --> Myloninja13 (720) --> TheRampage (813) -->

Performer

(898) --> Andriod18 (1449) -->

Performer

(1846)
Kublai Khan (6):

Osuka

(76) -->

Almost50

(122) --> Scioness Sajj (388) --> JarJarDrinks (536) -->

Osuka

(725) -->

Performer

(957)

WhemeStar

(3): Lalendra (234) --> JarJarDrinks (797) -->

Flavor Leaf

(955)
Hopkirk (9):

Osuka

(90) --> Lalendra (279) -->

Osuka

(696) --> (Null) (993) --> Wavemode (999) -->

Performer

(1273) --> (Null) (1315) -->

Performer

(1458) --> Andriod18 (1679)
Edosurist (2): Texcat (84) -->

Almost50

(222)
Gamma Emerald (3): Vaxkiller (710) --> Wavemode (1107) --> Andriod18 (1711) --> _{(Null) (1889)^}

Ausuka

(9): JarJarDrinks (89) --> Creature (104) --> Myloninja13 (429) --> (Null) (742) --> TheRampage (743) --> Wavemode (998) -->

Performer

(1604) --> Lalendra (1624) --> Andriod18 (1680)
Lalendra (3):

Almost50

(209) --> (Null) (559) -->

Performer

(1229)
EspeciallyTheLies (2):

Almost50

(83) -->

Performer

(515)
Lovebird (1): Edosurist (259)
Davesaz (1): Wavemode (1014)
Frozen Angel (3):

Performer

(1579) --> (Null) (1606) -->

Performer

(1814)
JarJarDrinks (8):

Osuka

(85) -->

Almost50

(114) --> Charles510 (186) --> Edosurist (231) -->

Osuka

(535) -->

Ausuka

(842) --> Wavemode (1112) --> Andriod18 (1410)

Osuka

(10): Wavemode (80) --> JarJarDrinks (124) --> ArcAngel9 (229) --> Pine (332) --> JarJarDrinks (353) -->

Performer

(769) --> TheRampage (771) -->

Performer

(1047) --> Vaxkiller (1359) -->

Performer

(1384)
Texcat (4):

Osuka

(79) --> Wavemode (1080) -->

Osuka

(1703) --> Andriod18 (1777)
Andriod18 (4): Kublai Khan (190) --> Lovebird (290) --> JarJarDrinks (855) -->

Performer

(1796)
ArcAngel9 (4): Texcat (81) --> TheRampage (223) --> Texcat (604) -->

Performer

(1397)
Charles510 (2): JarJarDrinks (87) --> (Null) (310)
Vaxkiller (8): JarJarDrinks (363) --> Scioness Sajj (389) --> Andriod18 (437) --> JarJarDrinks (532) --> Golden Robster (678) --> Wavemode (1078) --> TheRampage (1085) -->

Performer

(1116)
Wavemode (5): Texcat (82) --> Charles510 (131) --> (Null) (838) -->

Osuka

(867) -->

Performer

(1108)
TheRampage (3): Creature (100) --> (Null) (509) -->

Osuka

(681)
PenguinPower (1):

Performer

(1774)
Myloninja13 (4): Edosurist (233) --> JarJarDrinks (326) -->

Performer

(1554) --> Andriod18 (1787)
Scioness Sajj (4):

Ausuka

(406) --> (Null) (1325) -->

Performer

(1552) --> Andriod18 (1760)

Flavor Leaf

(1): Andriod18 (1772)

Pre-Game

Dunnstral (2): Texcat (9) --> Pine (43)

Srceenplay

(1): Andriod18 (62)
Pine (1):

Osuka

(16)
Kublai Khan (1): Pine (34)
Hopkirk (1):

Osuka

(66)
Edosurist (1): Pine (42)

Osuka

(2): Pine (28) --> Wavemode (33)
Texcat (1): Pine (44)
Wavemode (1):

Osuka

(31)

[Gamma Emerald]

bit curious if people are suspecting me based off my voting circumstances, if so how does "his claim and the referenced meta make no sense" not make sense? I saw a major inconsistency wrt his reactions between games so I pressed it

you didn't seem really invested in that wagon and then you soft-defended whemestar by acting pro-town

Hi, no one has justified this Wheme wagon yet
Someone do so or I'll be all over that wagon on a wheme townflip

wheme has posted on site within the last half hour.

LE YAWN
I've known others who would inadvertently not post in a game where they were near lynch as town (Aristophanes in his team mafia game anyone?)
tell me how this case is scum-indicative?

wagon make-up doesn't really help
talk about what wheme has done, not other people

So, you got your Doctor PM. You saw the Innocent Child announcement. You saw some mason claims and you didn't scratch your head at the idea that town is over-powered?

Doc + masons + IC is overpowered? idr think so

you only started talking about meta after the wagon had ran up with a decent amount of votes

The wagon always had a ton of votes
and I didn't like the way it just seemed to always go to him, sorta the same logic that made me dislike the performer wagon
also I think you may have the timeline wrong, I never voted wheme until I noted the inconsistency

[Gamma Emerald]

And I'd assume that there'd be at least a scum off the wagon and another near the end of it too.

nice I agree

mylon gets a pass d3

seriously? off of such a vanilla copypasta response? no thanks

I mean I agree with the reasoning so what's the problem?

giving a free pass to mylo because I don't SR him

do you SR mylo?

Well it's a very easy to agree with stance, that's why it SHOULDN'T get a free pass. I don't SR mylo, in fact I think he's just barely on my townside, but I dislike foolish play.

[Golden Robster]

The wagon always had a ton of votes
and I didn't like the way it just seemed to always go to him, sorta the same logic that made me dislike the performer wagon
also I think you may have the timeline wrong, I never voted wheme until I noted the inconsistency

fair enough

what do you think about dun right now?

[Golden Robster]

Well it's a very easy to agree with stance, that's why it SHOULDN'T get a free pass. I don't SR mylo, in fact I think he's just barely on my townside, but I dislike foolish play.

mylo feels lynchbaity if anything

[Gamma Emerald]

Enjoy your Wheme credibility

but we town are going to look elsewhere while you'll waste your time today

Naw, the confirmeds are gonna show up and back up my push.

FL won't Hopkirk won't
Ausuka shouldn't for the same reason as Tchill

[Creature]

expected you to have obvtowned already

he obvtowned when he fakeclaimed vig.

Oh right

(even though I also did)

[TehBrawlGuy]

VOTE: TehBrawlGuy

Jumped onto the Wheme wagon late
Unvoted when he got to L-2
Was one of FL's main scumreads if Wheme flipped scum

Didn't finally re-vote until multiple people pressured him to do so

i understand that we're in a world where "alternative facts" are a thing, but let's look at what actually happened

i unvoted wheme for policy reasons, and said I would vote him again post-claim
people whined at me
i told them to go pound sand
eventually wheme claimed
i voted him again

you can't just claim that I was "pressured" into doing what I said I was going to do from the start lol

[TehBrawlGuy]

VOTE: JJD

I had my suspicions anyway, but Wheme ISO really nails it down for me. Wheme only ever votes for 4 people past the early voting chaos. Vax, PP, Flavor Leaf, and JJD.
FL is dead and Town, PP is very likely Town after yesterday. If Wheme did any bussing, it would have to be in Vax or JJD.

Rest of the post

: Vax he HARD townreads all of D1, until suddenly flipping on him, saying this:

Man I want jar jar lynched but VOTE: Vax

The vote count at the time was this:

Day 2 VC #10

Hopkirk (0) -
EspeciallyTheLies (0) -
JarJarDrinks (3) - Andriod18 (2116), Flavor Leaf (2205), Dunnstral (2206)
Andriod18 (3) - Pine (1936), JarJarDrinks (2192), Hopkirk (2197)
Texcat (2) - Wavemode (2044), ArcAngel9 (2072)
ArcAngel9 (1) - Texcat (1987)
Vaxkiller (2) - Golden Robster (2171), Lalendra (2184)
PenguinPower (2) - Ausuka (1960), EspeciallyTheLies (1996)
Myloninja13 (2) - Creature (1941), PenguinPower (1947)
Scioness Sajj (0) -
Flavor Leaf (1) - Kublai Khan (1944)
Not Voting (6) - Vaxkiller, Frozen Angel, Gamma Emerald, Scioness Sajj, Myloninja13, WhemeStar

Lynch Threshold

During day 2, it takes 12 votes to lynch a player.

Deadline

Day 2 ends on July 14, 2018 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2018-07-14 20:00:00).

Moderator Notes

Added activity rule #12: "Regardless of whether or not you actually post, you are expected to be reading the game to the best of your ability at all times. (In other words, do not state that you have not been reading the game.)"

EspeciallyTheLies is V/LA for an indefinite time.

If you notice any mistakes, please point them out. (That includes looking at the voting history.)

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Day 2

Dunnstral: Myloninja13 (1942) --> JarJarDrinks (2206)
Golden Robster: Hopkirk (2078) --> (Null) (2096) --> PenguinPower (2112) --> Scioness Sajj (2152) --> Vaxkiller (2171)
Pine: Andriod18 (1936)
Creature: Myloninja13 (1941)
Kublai Khan: Flavor Leaf (1944)
Hopkirk: Andriod18 (2197)

Ausuka

: PenguinPower (1960)
Lalendra: Vaxkiller (2184)
EspeciallyTheLies: PenguinPower (1996)
JarJarDrinks: Andriod18 (1945) --> EspeciallyTheLies (2041) --> (Null) (2066) --> Andriod18 (2192)
Andriod18: JarJarDrinks (2116)
Texcat: ArcAngel9 (1987)
ArcAngel9: Texcat (2072)
Wavemode: Texcat (2044)
PenguinPower: Myloninja13 (1947)
Flavor Leaf: JarJarDrinks (2205)

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Day 1

Note: * = Hammer Vote

Note: ^ = Vote after hammer vote.

Dunnstral (5):

Osuka

(77) --> Texcat (1388) --> Lalendra (1623) -->

Osuka

(1758) -->

Performer

(1782)

Srceenplay

(0): (Null)

Performer

(5):

Osuka

(623) --> TheRampage (909) --> Wavemode (1051) --> Andriod18 (1765) -->

Performer

(1849)*

Joral

(0): (Null)

Almost50

(8): Hopkirk (97) --> Edosurist (226) -->

Osuka

(390) -->

Ausuka

(1205) --> (Null) (1304) --> Vaxkiller (1352) --> (Null) (1380) --> Andriod18 (1460)
Fumuki (0): (Null)
Golden Robster (13):

Almost50

(177) --> Wavemode (183) -->

Osuka

(236) -->

Ausuka (317)

--> JarJarDrinks (319) --> (Null) (546) --> Vaxkiller (602) --> (Null) (1504) --> Wavemode (1588) --> (Null) (1589) --> ArcAngel9 (1770) --> Andriod18 (1784) --> [[ost=1798](Null) (1798)[/post]
Pine (2):

Osuka

(176) --> Andriod18 (1835)
Creature (6):

Performer

(385) --> Myloninja13 (720) --> TheRampage (813) -->

Performer

(898) --> Andriod18 (1449) -->

Performer

(1846)
Kublai Khan (6):

Osuka

(76) -->

Almost50

(122) --> Scioness Sajj (388) --> JarJarDrinks (536) -->

Osuka

(725) -->

Performer

(957)
WhemeStar (3): Lalendra (234) --> JarJarDrinks (797) --> Flavor Leaf (955)
Hopkirk (9):

Osuka

(90) --> Lalendra (279) -->

Osuka

(696) --> (Null) (993) --> Wavemode (999) -->

Performer

(1273) --> (Null) (1315) -->

Performer

(1458) --> Andriod18 (1679)
Edosurist (2): Texcat (84) -->

Almost50

(222)
Gamma Emerald (3): Vaxkiller (710) --> Wavemode (1107) --> Andriod18 (1711) --> _{(Null) (1889)^}

Ausuka

(9): JarJarDrinks (89) --> Creature (104) --> Myloninja13 (429) --> (Null) (742) --> TheRampage (743) --> Wavemode (998) -->

Performer

(1604) --> Lalendra (1624) --> Andriod18 (1680)
Lalendra (3):

Almost50

(209) --> (Null) (559) -->

Performer

(1229)
EspeciallyTheLies (2):

Almost50

(83) -->

Performer

(515)
Lovebird (1): Edosurist (259)
Davesaz (1): Wavemode (1014)
Frozen Angel (3):

Performer

(1579) --> (Null) (1606) -->

Performer

(1814)
JarJarDrinks (8):

Osuka

(85) -->

Almost50

(114) --> Charles510 (186) --> Edosurist (231) -->

Osuka

(535) -->

Ausuka

(842) --> Wavemode (1112) --> Andriod18 (1410)

Osuka

(10): Wavemode (80) --> JarJarDrinks (124) --> ArcAngel9 (229) --> Pine (332) --> JarJarDrinks (353) -->

Performer

(769) --> TheRampage (771) -->

Performer

(1047) --> Vaxkiller (1359) -->

Performer

(1384)
Texcat (4):

Osuka

(79) --> Wavemode (1080) -->

Osuka

(1703) --> Andriod18 (1777)
Andriod18 (4): Kublai Khan (190) --> Lovebird (290) --> JarJarDrinks (855) -->

Performer

(1796)
ArcAngel9 (4): Texcat (81) --> TheRampage (223) --> Texcat (604) -->

Performer

(1397)
Charles510 (2): JarJarDrinks (87) --> (Null) (310)
Vaxkiller (8): JarJarDrinks (363) --> Scioness Sajj (389) --> Andriod18 (437) --> JarJarDrinks (532) --> Golden Robster (678) --> Wavemode (1078) --> TheRampage (1085) -->

Performer

(1116)
Wavemode (5): Texcat (82) --> Charles510 (131) --> (Null) (838) -->

Osuka

(867) -->

Performer

(1108)
TheRampage (3): Creature (100) --> (Null) (509) -->

Osuka

(681)
PenguinPower (1):

Performer

(1774)
Myloninja13 (4): Edosurist (233) --> JarJarDrinks (326) -->

Performer

(1554) --> Andriod18 (1787)
Scioness Sajj (4):

Ausuka

(406) --> (Null) (1325) -->

Performer

(1552) --> Andriod18 (1760)
Flavor Leaf (1): Andriod18 (1772)

Pre-Game

Dunnstral (2): Texcat (9) --> Pine (43)

Srceenplay

(1): Andriod18 (62)
Pine (1):

Osuka

(16)
Kublai Khan (1): Pine (34)
Hopkirk (1):

Osuka

(66)
Edosurist (1): Pine (42)

Osuka

(2): Pine (28) --> Wavemode (33)
Texcat (1): Pine (44)
Wavemode (1):

Osuka

(31)

Voting JJD here establishes JJD as the lead wagon, with 4 votes, while voting Vax ties him with JJD and the rest at 3. This looks very much like Wheme!Scum not wanting to put a scumbuddy in peril - if he was setting up a mislynch on JJD, he could just vote JJD and nobody would really question it, since he'd been on JJD D1. It also doesn't make sense for him to flip on Vax if he's a scumbuddy, since he's been hard TRing Vax thus far.

In addition, he makes sure to mention several times just how much he thinks JJD is scum. (besides his votes on him)

Jar jar is a good vote for now

Man I want jar jar lynched but VOTE: Vax

JarJar is prob scum

It's an obvious, clumsy bus. It's even more damning when you realize JJD is the only bus that makes sense out of Wheme's votes. Wheme's actions show JJD is also Scum.

Is your vote here based only on assumption that Wheme was bussing?

Made some formatting adjustments to the post.
~Ircher

No, the flow of logic is basically this:

Scum usually bus at least one of their teammates in a game this large
▼
I should check if Wheme bussed anyone
▼
Upon checking, the only candidates for a Wheme bus are Vax and JJD. JJD makes more sense of the two, and makes a lot of sense.
▼
Let's look at from the other angle, Vax->Wheme and JJD->Wheme and see which makes more sense
▼
Vax->Wheme doesn't really make sense, but JJD->Wheme does
If JJD+Wheme makes sense both ways, JJD's probably Scum.

tl;dr I was looking that way under the assumption wheme was bussing, because I think that provides a useful lens. Once I looked that way, I found that regardless of what lens I used, JJD made sense as Scum

[Dunnstral]

expected you to have obvtowned already

he obvtowned when he fakeclaimed vig.

Oh right

(even though I also did)

You fakeclaimed vig?

[Creature]

I may be even-night vigilante and I intend to vig Pine tonight

For mafia doctors

[TehBrawlGuy]

anyway, VOTE: texcat

JJD wagon has no legs (sad)
I don't like Mylo/Dunn wagons
Lalawagon is OK at face value, but Wave and JJD both being on it gives me the heeblies

Tex is mildly leanscum, mostly on the wagon because the other wagons are no bueno. feelsbad going to a wagon I'm not super jazzed about, but I did hit Wheme that way, so it could be worse

[Dunnstral]

Well it's a very easy to agree with stance, that's why it SHOULDN'T get a free pass. I don't SR mylo, in fact I think he's just barely on my townside, but I dislike foolish play.

mylo feels lynchbaity if anything

So did wheme, that didn't change his alignment from scum to town though

[wavemode]

Scum usually bus at least one of their teammates in a game this large

you have statistics on this? there's almost certainly scum on his wagon, but to say he definitely bussed a teammate is a completely nonsensical assumption

[TehBrawlGuy]

Scum usually bus at least one of their teammates in a game this large

you have statistics on this? there's almost certainly scum on his wagon, but to say he definitely bussed a teammate is a completely nonsensical assumption

Standard games from two of my homesites were in the 20-25p range, so I've got a lot of familiarity with setups of this size.

I said usually, not definitely. I also literally just posted about why I think it holds up even under lenses besides "wheme probably bussed".

[JarJarDrinks]

anyway, VOTE: texcat

JJD wagon has no legs (sad)
I don't like Mylo/Dunn wagons
Lalawagon is OK at face value, but Wave and JJD both being on it gives me the heeblies

Tex is mildly leanscum, mostly on the wagon because the other wagons are no bueno. feelsbad going to a wagon I'm not super jazzed about, but I did hit Wheme that way, so it could be worse

I still think ur town but man ur reads are awful.

[Tchill13]

Robster when lalendra plays town it's EAGER

newb

town. That's the difference. Reads into things a little too much. She tries to sort though.

I'm not seeing any eagerness here.

The highlighted word is my problem: she'll eventually transition out of being a newb, and her playstyle will change. I don't know if it has yet, I'm just pointing out the thing.

ok when everybody stops saying that she'll have transitioned

[Tchill13]

why is vax commonly TR'd?

why is texcat commonly SR'd?

these are my two biggest questions atm.

[Tchill13]

it's almost more beneficial not to nus with whemes wagon due to the fact its an inevitable lynch and that will definitely be talked about.

i would imagine one scum went out of their way not to bus at the end of the wagon.

[PenguinPower]

@mod: V/LA from 7/19 through 7/22. Should still be around, but just want to mark it.

[Ircher]

@mod: V/LA from 7/19 through 7/22. Should still be around, but just want to mark it.

Noted.