NY214: Project Pinecone (Game over! Town wins!)

[Andrius]

Deadline in (expired on 2018-07-26 15:00:00)

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Pine is apparently camping this weekend. >_>

[brassherald]

Who are the two fruit vendor claims again? I don't feel like searching the thread to figure it out

[Andrius]

Magna is Odd-night Loyal FV
Ausuka is Loyal FV

Magna targeted me, I received it
Ausuka targeted Rask, he received it

its important that the people who receive claim first in the future

[brassherald]

Yeah, sounds right to me. Thanks.

[Inferno390]

Woah, woah, brass. Where did this Inferno+dram team come from, and how exactly does this fit game narrative?

[Andrius]

I might have to bust out my :shenanigans: if morale does not improve in this game.

[brassherald]

You are both scummy, and I've seen nothing to hint at the two of you not being scum together. The vote yesterday could have easily been distancing.

[brassherald]

I might have to bust out my :shenanigans: if morale does not improve in this game.

Please do

[Andrius]

OK but seriously though imma be cross if I gotta lasso this game.

[Taly]

OK but seriously though imma be cross if I gotta lasso this game.

I feel like I've already taken this role whenever I'm posting.

I don't have time for a huge elabroate post, but I'm going to look into

profii

, evaluate the reasons behind my

Sky

scumread, and reply to the major posts directed toward me.

Right now, the lack of several people posting has diminished the strength of both townreads and scumreads I have, and I'm going to be bothered if the lower D2 content people are mostly, if not all, town.

{HeWhoSwims, profii, xyzzy}

Xyzzy

, I apologize again for not using the correct pronouns, and I will work to correct myself in the future. But can you please do something aside from stating the obvious?

I kind of feel like

TW

has been sitting around as well.

Chick

could also be apart of the low-content group, but there's reason to suggest she's town over the others.

I kind of feel like town has been bickering the past few days in thread. No strong or compelling arguments have been made for votes lately.

I'd also note that most people don't seem to agree with reads or cases in this thread, which isn't helpful for cohesion.

[Inferno390]

You are both scummy, and I've seen nothing to hint at the two of you not being scum together. The vote yesterday could have easily been distancing.

How about a real, fleshed out read on with points and reasoning please? Because this is literally just shit throwing and I don’t like it.
And you really think my death tunnel on dram yesterday was BUSSING?

[Raskolnikov]

Rask, you've REALLY taken a backseat the past few days. Maybe V/LA, maybe not but I admit I was letting you wear the cape since it allowed me to backseat sit and be an investigative role but if we're gonna actually play this game its gonna take a village and we can't do that with MIA HitAltSlot MIA xyzzy etc.

Yeah I'm kind of checking out of playing mafia in general, haven't in'd for weeks and going to take a long break when my commitments finish
Though I don't think that makes my reads actually that much worse and I'm inno'd so whatever

I do legimately think profii is a good lynch here but flipping someone like supermeh/null like xyzzy is still probably ev+ (and poe points to such slots given innos flying around and I don't think e.g. hitalt is scum anymore)
The real fun in this game should be as the claims and roles develop because if not conflicting results, you can setup spec normal-games like a motherfucker. but I'm unlikely to be around for that
Until then just avoid any "train-wreck" action I think. But yeah profii didn't feel town when I was watching his posting/turn realtime.

[Raskolnikov]

Brassherald, inferno interactions with dram are really in depth so onus would be on you to dissect it and case

[Andrius]

I'm up for either of [profii, xyzzy] now that TW leans ever-so-gently towards VIG instead of SK given my thought process.

Taly, you've been fine. I'm rallying again. Let's take it head-on.

[Taly]

Can someone ask me questions? That usually helps get me more involved with the game.

[Andrius]

Profii or xyzzy?

Where do you stand on the Vig/SK thing wrt TW?

What do you think of

Lucca

Ausuka?

[Taly]

Profii or xyzzy?

Depends on both of their next posts.

xyzzy

could be scum playing null, but town that's really not invested in the game.

profii

... I'm skimming his ISO and seeing him in a town perspective D1, I mostly take issue with his posts this dayphase. His evasiveness, his inconsistent read progression, followed by him being selective with his pushes feels not what I'd expect town him to be, but it's not a strong meta-ish read.

Where do you stand on the Vig/SK thing wrt TW?

I don't get people's fascination with this subject right now.

TW

is self-sorting at the moment.

I'm not impressed with his posting, but I can say that for several people right now.

What do you think of

Lucca

Ausuka?

I forgot she was playing this game.

[Andrius]

If I had a daykill, I'd probably shoot xyzzy over profii. But that's just how I feel right now.

Not fascinated, more irked by the fact people were assuming vig meant free pass.

Yeaaaaaah, I liked her in the beginning, and I don't scumread her but there's a distinct lack of presence.
Maybe it was because I changed my avatar from Chrono. Maybe if we match again she'll come back to me?

[Taly]

Thoughts on

Sky

?

[Andrius]

Literally no idea.
They're here, which is better than a chunk of the playerlist, but neither high-impact not high-presence.

[Taly]

Also I don't understand

Almost's

VT claim at all.

It doesn't seem like it's out of his town-range, but him wanting the NK, especially in light of this, seems borderline impossible to happen.

I don't know what he expects.

[Andrius]

...he claimed vt?
I thought that was Magna misreading.

[Skygazer]

A50 claimed VT but it looks like Magna thought that A50 replaced Hit instead of Elbirn

[Taly]

Concise reasons for my individual scumread on

Sky

, that has faded, but not been removed.

1)

D1, her scumreads were essentially whoever was the most lynchable or wagoned person.

2)

She didn't respond to the scumreads on her directly, she either brought up other people that could've been scum, or said the scumreads on her weren't warranted. She did this mostly D1, but also D2 when I finished the original group ISO. Most notable with her

Hit

vote/push following the vote onto

Flubb

EoD.

3)

Her vote doesn't always reflect the people she's pushing, I noted this in a D1 post around the 700 mark in my group ISO.

4)

Biggest reason is that there's potentially a strong associative to

Dram

.

981 The only reason Sky has for justifying her votes and scumreads is something being "flaily" like it's supposed to be this elabroate case when in reality she's not doing anything to ratify her thoughts.
983 Sky FINALLY expands on what "flaily" means to her, but then also talks about it being odd that Hit is pushing her and Dram, and while it IS true technically...
...Why is Sky concerned about Hit's read on Dram and not Hit's read on the MANY other people he's suspected, including her other townreads like Brass and etc.

I can see THIS post being a Sky-Dram SvS associative.

5)

A lot of her posts today don't have a lot of strong direction in reads. Her vote to

Elbirn

immediately after my case on him and suspicion of her feels like she's diverting suspicion. She also has a relatively sizable pool of scumreads or suspects in the game but she doesn't individually push them.

I can see her posts coming from a noob-town perspective, but this post is mostly for

MOI

.

[Skygazer]

I think if profii was being a VI then it would've manifested itself on day one, but his day one play was pretty decent looking and he took a huge scummy turn on day two