Open 733: Grey Flag (Complete)

[Quick]

[Ircher]

I think we should either lynch NM or tell how he is readable.

Seriously, how familiar are you with Not_Mafia?

Enough.

Is this a WK, or a defense?

That's a loaded question.

[Brandi]

is this normal

is what normal?

I need Brandi to comment on this >:

Sorry, I meant in the way the game flow was happening. This is such a small game, and people rushing for a lynch so quickly, I was wondering if it was normal.

UNVOTE:

i need to catch up

[Quick]

I think we should either lynch NM or tell how he is readable.

Seriously, how familiar are you with Not_Mafia?

Enough.

Is this a WK, or a defense?

That's a loaded question.

Should be relatively easy to answer if you are Town.

Yes, I think you are incredibly Scummy and yes, I still want to PL NM.

@Players in the game,

Do you know Ircher to have a Scummy meta?

[Brandi]

page 6 seems like more arguing about N_M

Quick has been less scummy

someone feels missing

[Saudade]

Don't expect me to do much until NM is lynched, K thanks.

Well, since I believe playing as Town is mostly about creating content, I consider NM's playstyle to be very Anti-Town.

this is the best post in the thread so far and im all for punishing scum for inconsistancy

Good luck with that cuz I do it a lot.

Then you'll get lynched a lot and something tells me you'll flip mafia more often than not simply by the nature of the slip

[Saudade]

I think we should either lynch NM or tell how he is readable.

Not being able to read someone is not grounds to lynching him because that's not alignment indicative...

[Ircher]

I think we should either lynch NM or tell how he is readable.

Seriously, how familiar are you with Not_Mafia?

Enough.

Is this a WK, or a defense?

That's a loaded question.

Should be relatively easy to answer if you are Town.

Yes, I think you are incredibly Scummy and yes, I still want to PL NM.

@Players in the game,

Do you know Ircher to have a Scummy meta?

Again, that's exactly why I have a problem with your Not_Mafia read. It isn't "Not_Mafia is scum!pinging me", it is "Not_Mafia has a playstyle I dislike."

[Quick]

Don't expect me to do much until NM is lynched, K thanks.

Well, since I believe playing as Town is mostly about creating content, I consider NM's playstyle to be very Anti-Town.

this is the best post in the thread so far and im all for punishing scum for inconsistancy

Good luck with that cuz I do it a lot.

Then you'll get lynched a lot and something tells me you'll flip mafia more often than not simply by the nature of the slip

K...

page 6 seems like more arguing about N_M

Quick has been less scummy

someone feels missing

[ofrhz]

@Players in the game,

Do you know Ircher to have a Scummy meta?

I’ve never played with scum!Ircher

Or are you asking if Ircher is scummy as town? In the one completed game I’ve played with him, he was mislynched on D1 although I don’t remember the specifics

[ofrhz]

Then you'll get lynched a lot and something tells me you'll flip mafia more often than not simply by the nature of the slip

Why is that slip more likely to come from scum than town

[Saudade]

Then you'll get lynched a lot and something tells me you'll flip mafia more often than not simply by the nature of the slip

Why is that slip more likely to come from scum than town

Because mafia is the one that needs to make up a narrative and thus ultimately might contradict themselves.
Town players are generally straight forward in their approach and have their mentality set thus contradicting themselves less.

[ruru]

votecount

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Not_Mafia (2):	Quick (14),	Gosrir Elmer Odels (87),
Quick (2):	Saudade (92),	Ircher (93),
Gosrir Elmer Odels (2):	the worst (130),	ofrhz (131),
ceejayvinoya (1):	Not_Mafia (31),
Saudade (1):	ceejayvinoya (33),
Not voting (1):	Brandi (152),

(expired on 2018-07-25 19:06:00) remain.

[ofrhz]

Because mafia is the one that needs to make up a narrative and thus ultimately might contradict themselves.
Town players are generally straight forward in their approach and have their mentality set thus contradicting themselves less.

i think this is a pretty shallow read given that quick has produced content, at least relative to what content is available in the game thus far, despite him saying he doesn't want to. his initial contradiction is more likely out of stubbornness in maintaining his PL stance rather than out of faking stances

and ircher, this cannot be the first time you see someone wanting to PL NM. that's kind of a bad reason to scumread quick

[Ircher]

It’s the continued push that strikes me as scum. Most people would quit by this point.

[ofrhz]

It’s the continued push that strikes me as scum. Most people would quit by this point.

hmm that's fair

[Saudade]

Because mafia is the one that needs to make up a narrative and thus ultimately might contradict themselves.
Town players are generally straight forward in their approach and have their mentality set thus contradicting themselves less.

i think this is a pretty shallow read given that quick has produced content, at least relative to what content is available in the game thus far, despite him saying he doesn't want to. his initial contradiction is more likely out of stubbornness in maintaining his PL stance rather than out of faking stances

and ircher, this cannot be the first time you see someone wanting to PL NM. that's kind of a bad reason to scumread quick

I've no better reads at the time so he's got my vote so far

[the worst]

actually tbqh Quick's policy push on NM pinged me too
he's not really engaging in detail about why he thinks it's worthwhile....fmpov it felt like a thing he felt he could get away with and he was taken aback when he couldn't

[the worst]

having said that

Gosrir's push was worse
he's also scum

not really sure if Gosrir+Quick as buddies pile onto a policy wagon right off the bat sooo

[Gosrir Elmer Odels]

Then you'll get lynched a lot and something tells me you'll flip mafia more often than not simply by the nature of the slip

1. What do you like about NM's point? 2. What do you mean by the quoted part? Like, do you think Quick rolls scum more often than other players because of his attitude?

not really sure if Gosrir+Quick as buddies pile onto a policy wagon right off the bat sooo

FWIW, I'm townreading Quick. (Must be a shocker for you! )

[the worst]

talk me thru why you're townreading him?

[Saudade]

I'm not going to reply to you Gosrir until you put in some proper thought into what I've quoted and said afterwards lol

[Gosrir Elmer Odels]

@TW: The NMPL thing is NAI, but his reaction to the "inconsistency" conundrum is town. He didn't get fixated on the apparent inconsistency, but tried to move the game forward in a meaningful way(53.)

@SDD: I already have, & what you said was stupid. I wanted to give you benefit of the doubt by offering you a chance to elaborate. But then you confirm, right?: You think inconsistency is a scumtell, & Quick is more likely to roll scum for some reason. Got it, thanks.

[ceejayvinoya]

Now I'm getting paranoid about you, Irch, because I'm already paranoid about TW.

Anyhow, what do you all think about NM being active? 51 in particular is interesting. I don't agree with his point, but I think it was serious, so that makes it strictly game-related. All of this was sparked by a push on NM.
VOTE: Not_Mafia
(not policy)

Why are you paranoid of The Worst and I?

That aside, I think Not_Mafia being active is more likely a sign that he is town than that he is scum. I am not in favor of lynching him at the moment.

I don't like the way TW's defending NM. He "defended" you in a similar tone, & #83 & #84 just don't mesh well tonally for me. :/

Anyhow, what do you all think about NM being active? 51 in particular is interesting. I don't agree with his point, but I think it was serious, so that makes it strictly game-related. All of this was sparked by a push on NM.
VOTE: Not_Mafia
(not policy)

Why is NM scum for this tho

It's different than what I've seen from town!NM so far.

This post is pinging me.

It's like he's trying to pin something on TW and NM, which really doesn't stick.

VOTE: Gosrir

I have trouble understanding this "TW defended another person, he must be scum!".

@Gosrir what exactly is the difference between town!NM and scum!NM?

[ceejayvinoya]

Please stop shtitposting Quick it's a negative influence on the game

omg