NY 213 - Game Over!

[Scioness Sajj]

so you townread lalendra?

i do. i believe i have been pretty clear how i feel about her, it didn't change since yesterday.

do we want lalendra anywhere near lylo

that's terrible approach

Why?

actually, i take that back. that's scummy approach.

why? there is a difference between i vote for you because i think you are scum and i vote you because i don't trust you to win the game in lylo.
do you play to lynch scum or do you play to policy people that may make the wrong decision in lylo? do you want a lynch that people have to take stances on or do you want to have no responsibility policy? are you certain that disengaged lurkers will stay disengaged? are you certain that engaged players won't flake out?
idk maybe i'm wrong but i thought we should be looking for scum, not weakest links. especially in a game like this where, if we assume i'm upper line of useless lurker, we have about 10 players that fit criterium of being a liability to our wincon. you and wave included.

[Scioness Sajj]

like with argument like that we can as well lynch Ausuka since she hasn't been really paying that much attention to the game, right?

[Ircher]

Day 3 VC #14

Dunnstral (3) - Golden Robster (3559), Myloninja13 (3765), Krazy (3978)
Creature (1) - Kublai Khan (3511)
Kublai Khan (1) - Vaxkiller (4004)

Lalendra (6) - Hopkirk (3661), PenguinPower (3678), Tchill13 (3690), Wavemode (3716), JarJarDrinks (3721), Ankamius (3801)

JarJarDrinks (0) -
Texcat (2) - Scioness Sajj (3756), TehBrawlGuy (3790)
TehBrawlGuy (1) - Lalendra (3719)
Myloninja13 (4) - Dunnstral (3463), Texcat (3637), Ausuka (4010), Creature (4013)
Not Voting (2) - Frozen Angel, Gamma Emerald (3954)

Lynch Threshold

During day 3, it takes 11 votes to lynch a player.

Deadline

Day 3 ends on July 24, 2018 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2018-07-24 20:00:00).

Moderator Notes

If you have consistent weekend V/LA, you must remind me every weekend, or I will prod you. Alternatively, you can set V/LA tags each weekend.
PenguinPower is V/LA from July 19 to July 22.
If you notice any mistakes, please point them out. (That includes looking at the voting history.)

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Day 3

Dunnstral: Myloninja13 (3463)
Golden Robster: Dunnstral (3559)
Pine (0):
Krazy: Dunnstral (3978)
Creature: Texcat (3472) --> Lalendra (3681) --> Texcat (3744) --> Myloninja13 (4013)
Kublai Khan: Creature (3511)
Hopkirk: Lalendra (3661)
Gamma Emerald: Lalendra (3913) --> (Null) (3954)

Ausuka

: Myloninja13 (3640) --> Lalendra (3677) --> Myloninja13 (4010)
Lalendra: TehBrawlGuy (3719)
Tchill13: Lalendra (3690)
JarJarDrinks: Creature (3616) --> (Null) (3694) --> Lalendra (3695) --> Dunnstral (3704) --> Lalendra (3721)
Ankamius: Lalendra (3801)
Texcat: Myloninja13 (3637)
TehBrawlGuy: JarJarDrinks (3466) --> Texcat (3790)
Vaxkiller: Kublai Khan (4004)
Wavemode: TehBrawlGuy (3468) --> Lalendra (3716)
PenguinPower: Texcat (3473) --> Myloninja13 (3643) --> Lalendra (3678)
Myloninja13: Dunnstral (3765)
Scioness Sajj: Texcat (3756)

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Day 2

Note: * - Hammer Vote

Dunnstral (4): Myloninja13 (1942) --> JarJarDrinks (2206) --> PenguinPower (3242) --> TehBrawlGuy (3248)
Golden Robster (17): Hopkirk (2078) --> (Null) (2096) --> PenguinPower (2112) --> Scioness Sajj (2152) --> Vaxkiller (2171) --> (Null) (2288) --> Creature (2299) -->

WhemeStar

(2304) --> Wavemode (2367) --> Scioness Sajj (2432) --> TehBrawlGuy (2526) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2642) --> (Null) (2783) --> PenguinPower (2979) -->

WhemeStar

(3099) --> (Null) (3284) -->

WhemeStar

(3286)
Pine (1): Andriod18 (1936)
Creature (3): Myloninja13 (1941) --> PenguinPower (2835) -->

WhemeStar

(3453*)
Kublai Khan (5):

Flavor Leaf

(1944) --> (Null) (2366) --> Vaxkiller (2423) --> PenguinPower (2899) -->

WhemeStar

(3027)

WhemeStar

(4): Vaxkiller (2245) --> JarJarDrinks (2301) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2542) --> PenguinPower (2930)
Hopkirk (5): Andriod18 (2197) --> Kublai Khan (2346) --> (Null) (2781) ==> (Null) (2782) -->

WhemeStar

(3008)
Gamma Emerald (5): Kublai Khan (2488) --> Golden Robster (2839) --> (Null) (2867) --> PenguinPower (2990) -->

WhemeStar

(3318)

Ausuka

(7): PenguinPower (1960) --> Myloninja13 (2434) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2504) --> (Null) (2573) --> Myloninja13 (2574) --> TehBrawlGuy (3023) -->

WhemeStar

(3293)
Lalendra (7): Vaxkiller (2184) --> JarJarDrinks (2334) --> Andriod18 (2503) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2657) --> (Null) (2705) --> PenguinPower (2809) -->

WhemeStar

(3097)
EspeciallyTheLies (1): PenguinPower (1996)
JarJarDrinks (10): Andriod18 (1945) --> EspeciallyTheLies (2041) --> (Null) (2066) --> Andriod18 (2192) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2327) --> (Null) (2612) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2640) --> (Null) (2755) --> Andriod18 (2943) -->

WhemeStar

(3030)
Andriod18 (2): JarJarDrinks (2116) --> Kublai Khan (2533)
Texcat (2): ArcAngel9 (1987) --> Myloninja13 (2552)
ArcAngel9 (1): Texcat (2072)
TehBrawlGuy (7): (Null) (2535) --> Wavemode (2690) -->

WhemeStar

(3062) --> (Null) (3118) -->

WhemeStar

(3165) --> (Null) (3196) -->

WhemeStar

(3233)
Vaxkiller (5):

WhemeStar

(2343) --> Myloninja13 (2472) --> PenguinPower (3012) -->

WhemeStar

(3112) --> PenguinPower (3290)
Wavemode (6): Texcat (2044) --> Andriod18 (2331) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2635) --> (Null) (2800) -->

WhemeStar

(2966) ==>

WhemeStar

(3115)
PenguinPower (7): Myloninja13 (1947) --> Kublai Khan (2572) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2709) --> Myloninja13 (2759) --> Golden Robster (2775) --> (Null) (2894) -->

WhemeStar

(2962)
Myloninja13 (1): PenguinPower (2437)
Scioness Sajj (3): Andriod18 (2904) -->

WhemeStar

(3034) --> PenguinPower (3255)

Flavor Leaf

(5): JarJarDrinks (2205) --> Kublai Khan (2499) --> PenguinPower (2715) --> Golden Robster (2774) -->

WhemeStar

(2958)

Day 1

Note: * = Hammer Vote

Note: ^ = Vote after hammer vote.

Dunnstral (5):

Osuka

(77) --> Texcat (1388) --> Lalendra (1623) -->

Osuka

(1758) -->

Performer

(1782)

Srceenplay

(0): (Null)

Performer

(5):

Osuka

(623) --> TheRampage (909) --> Wavemode (1051) --> Andriod18 (1765) -->

Performer

(1849)*

Joral

(0): (Null)

Almost50

(8): Hopkirk (97) --> Edosurist (226) -->

Osuka

(390) -->

Ausuka

(1205) --> (Null) (1304) --> Vaxkiller (1352) --> (Null) (1380) --> Andriod18 (1460)
Fumuki (0): (Null)
Golden Robster (13):

Almost50

(177) --> Wavemode (183) -->

Osuka

(236) -->

Ausuka (317)

--> JarJarDrinks (319) --> (Null) (546) --> Vaxkiller (602) --> (Null) (1504) --> Wavemode (1588) --> (Null) (1589) --> ArcAngel9 (1770) --> Andriod18 (1784) --> (Null) (1798)
Pine (2):

Osuka

(176) --> Andriod18 (1835)
Creature (6):

Performer

(385) --> Myloninja13 (720) --> TheRampage (813) -->

Performer

(898) --> Andriod18 (1449) -->

Performer

(1846)
Kublai Khan (6):

Osuka

(76) -->

Almost50

(122) --> Scioness Sajj (388) --> JarJarDrinks (536) -->

Osuka

(725) -->

Performer

(957)

WhemeStar

(3): Lalendra (234) --> JarJarDrinks (797) -->

Flavor Leaf

(955)
Hopkirk (9):

Osuka

(90) --> Lalendra (279) -->

Osuka

(696) --> (Null) (993) --> Wavemode (999) -->

Performer

(1273) --> (Null) (1315) -->

Performer

(1458) --> Andriod18 (1679)
Edosurist (2): Texcat (84) -->

Almost50

(222)
Gamma Emerald (3): Vaxkiller (710) --> Wavemode (1107) --> Andriod18 (1711) --> _{(Null) (1889)^}

Ausuka

(9): JarJarDrinks (89) --> Creature (104) --> Myloninja13 (429) --> (Null) (742) --> TheRampage (743) --> Wavemode (998) -->

Performer

(1604) --> Lalendra (1624) --> Andriod18 (1680)
Lalendra (3):

Almost50

(209) --> (Null) (559) -->

Performer

(1229)
EspeciallyTheLies (2):

Almost50

(83) -->

Performer

(515)
Lovebird (1): Edosurist (259)
Davesaz (1): Wavemode (1014)
Frozen Angel (3):

Performer

(1579) --> (Null) (1606) -->

Performer

(1814)
JarJarDrinks (8):

Osuka

(85) -->

Almost50

(114) --> Charles510 (186) --> Edosurist (231) -->

Osuka

(535) -->

Ausuka

(842) --> Wavemode (1112) --> Andriod18 (1410)

Osuka

(10): Wavemode (80) --> JarJarDrinks (124) --> ArcAngel9 (229) --> Pine (332) --> JarJarDrinks (353) -->

Performer

(769) --> TheRampage (771) -->

Performer

(1047) --> Vaxkiller (1359) -->

Performer

(1384)
Texcat (4):

Osuka

(79) --> Wavemode (1080) -->

Osuka

(1703) --> Andriod18 (1777)
Andriod18 (4): Kublai Khan (190) --> Lovebird (290) --> JarJarDrinks (855) -->

Performer

(1796)
ArcAngel9 (4): Texcat (81) --> TheRampage (223) --> Texcat (604) -->

Performer

(1397)
Charles510 (2): JarJarDrinks (87) --> (Null) (310)
Vaxkiller (8): JarJarDrinks (363) --> Scioness Sajj (389) --> Andriod18 (437) --> JarJarDrinks (532) --> Golden Robster (678) --> Wavemode (1078) --> TheRampage (1085) -->

Performer

(1116)
Wavemode (5): Texcat (82) --> Charles510 (131) --> (Null) (838) -->

Osuka

(867) -->

Performer

(1108)
TheRampage (3): Creature (100) --> (Null) (509) -->

Osuka

(681)
PenguinPower (1):

Performer

(1774)
Myloninja13 (4): Edosurist (233) --> JarJarDrinks (326) -->

Performer

(1554) --> Andriod18 (1787)
Scioness Sajj (4):

Ausuka

(406) --> (Null) (1325) -->

Performer

(1552) --> Andriod18 (1760)

Flavor Leaf

(1): Andriod18 (1772)

Pre-Game

Dunnstral (2): Texcat (9) --> Pine (43)

Srceenplay

(1): Andriod18 (62)
Pine (1):

Osuka

(16)
Kublai Khan (1): Pine (34)
Hopkirk (1):

Osuka

(66)
Edosurist (1): Pine (42)

Osuka

(2): Pine (28) --> Wavemode (33)
Texcat (1): Pine (44)
Wavemode (1):

Osuka

(31)

[texcat]

I'm pretty sure scum is going to have to kill Ausuka before endgame.

[wavemode]

actually, i take that back. that's scummy approach.

why? there is a difference between i vote for you because i think you are scum and i vote you because i don't trust you to win the game in lylo.
do you play to lynch scum or do you play to policy people that may make the wrong decision in lylo? do you want a lynch that people have to take stances on or do you want to have no responsibility policy? are you certain that disengaged lurkers will stay disengaged? are you certain that engaged players won't flake out?

this is a rather strange tirade, considering

a. i never said i wanted to lynch lalendra because she's bad? not sure where you're getting that from

b. i've already made it clear that i do scumread lalendra

c. i made the exact same comment about uglyduck in open 729 a few weeks ago and you didn't take issue with it there?

[Scioness Sajj]

actually, i take that back. that's scummy approach.

why? there is a difference between i vote for you because i think you are scum and i vote you because i don't trust you to win the game in lylo.
do you play to lynch scum or do you play to policy people that may make the wrong decision in lylo? do you want a lynch that people have to take stances on or do you want to have no responsibility policy? are you certain that disengaged lurkers will stay disengaged? are you certain that engaged players won't flake out?

this is a rather strange tirade, considering

a. i never said i wanted to lynch lalendra because she's bad? not sure where you're getting that from

b. i've already made it clear that i do scumread lalendra

c. i made the exact same comment about uglyduck in open 729 a few weeks ago and you didn't take issue with it there?

a. you have posted a question, i guess it wasn't directed at people that are already scumreading her

b. then push for her lynch based on your scumread

c. maybe, but you were also pushing for ud lynch based on why you think he is scum.

[Krazy]

why would scum bus when one of their players just got lynched the previous day?

[Myloninja13]

I am awake once more!

[Kublai Khan]

Eh. Let's make things happen.

VOTE: Lalendra

[JarJarDrinks]

The biggest tell right now for lala being scum is the makeup of the wagon and the resistance to it.

Look at how the votes were earlier this day:

Day 3 VC #13

Lalendra (7) - Hopkirk (3661), Ausuka (3677), PenguinPower (3678), Tchill13 (3690), Wavemode (3716), JarJarDrinks (3721), Ankamius (3801)

Look at those first 2 votes. Where's the scum all over this wagon?

If lala was town then ur saying that on a day following a scum lynch, there's this much resistance to a town wagon led by the 2 confirmed towns?

nonsense

[TehBrawlGuy]

I mean, is it that hard to believe? They're confirmed town, that doesn't mean they're right. You want people to just mindlessly sheep them?

[Kublai Khan]

I mean, is it that hard to believe? They're confirmed town, that doesn't mean they're right. You want people to just mindlessly sheep them?

No. But if Lalendra was town, scum would find reasons to be a part of the town-led wagon.

[Ankamius]

in general or

[Kublai Khan]

in general or

Both in general and in this game. I haven't seen anyone really explain why they aren't on the wagon.

[JarJarDrinks]

I mean, is it that hard to believe? They're confirmed town, that doesn't mean they're right. You want people to just mindlessly sheep them?

I would certainly expect scum to sheep them if lala was town wouldnt you?

This is like my entire point.

[Tchill13]

I mean, is it that hard to believe? They're confirmed town, that doesn't mean they're right. You want people to just mindlessly sheep them?

I would certainly expect scum to sheep them if lala was town wouldnt you?

This is like my entire point.

GREAT POINT.

man i got to post about how great of a point the wagon comp and stall was then you said that.

[JarJarDrinks]

And especially the day after a scum lynch you'd think they be clamoring to get a wagon on town.

Where's the scum trying to nudge the mislynch along?

[Ankamius]

in general or

Both in general and in this game. I haven't seen anyone really explain why they aren't on the wagon.

Honestly

If I saw a wagon being led by conftown and the wagon ended up flipping town

That's the very first angle I would be looking for

[Ankamius]

I wouldn't be too surprised if scum were dispersed off the wagon, especially if the slots right after the conftowns are town.

[Ankamius]

UNVOTE: Lalendra

Holy shit, that VC

Yeah Lalendra is probably town

[Dunnstral]

I remember something gave me cold feet on lalendra/made me think they were town

[Kublai Khan]

Honestly

If I saw a wagon being led by conftown and the wagon ended up flipping town

That's the very first angle I would be looking for

I wouldn't be too surprised if scum were dispersed off the wagon, especially if the slots right after the conftowns are town.

UNVOTE: Lalendra

Holy shit, that VC

Yeah Lalendra is probably town

>Ankamius makes argument that scum would scatter from a too-town wagon
>Ankamius sees wagon is town
>Ankamius unvotes and scatters.

Dude..

[Tchill13]

UNVOTE: Lalendra

Holy shit, that VC

Yeah Lalendra is probably town

what about the vc makes lalendra town?

[Kublai Khan]

Honestly

If I saw a wagon being led by conftown and the wagon ended up flipping town

That's the very first angle I would be looking for

Legitimately though, I don't get the logic. If scum aren't going to wagon town today, then you think they'll be looking to bus today? Or try to vacantly let a no lynch fall through?

[Tchill13]

Honestly

If I saw a wagon being led by conftown and the wagon ended up flipping town

That's the very first angle I would be looking for

I wouldn't be too surprised if scum were dispersed off the wagon, especially if the slots right after the conftowns are town.

UNVOTE: Lalendra

Holy shit, that VC

Yeah Lalendra is probably town

>Ankamius makes argument that scum would scatter from a too-town wagon
>Ankamius sees wagon is town
>Ankamius unvotes and scatters.

Dude..

this looks like scum saying "id do this as scum" then going out of their way not to do that lol.