NY 213 - Game Over!

[Creature]

I can't wrap my mind around the idea that someone is so terrible at mafia that the content of what they post is irrelevant, it's only the number of posts that I should pay attention to. Plus, HE'S COMPLETELY AWARE OF THIS META.

all of this

It's mostly about the content.

Town doesn't care how bad their posts may look.

Only scum actually cares about how good their content looks.

[Golden Robster]

What's the motivation for scum!me to call Wheme wagon a mislynch even though it was likely he was gonna be lynched anyway?

that was my reasoning for you being town previously so yes, didn't really see any motivation in that; what's the point of hard-defending someone when the wagon was at L-1?

don't have an answer for that

if anything, your play recently does not feel town-motivated since I tr mylo, lalendra and to a lesser extent texcat and then you have players like dunnstral, tbg sheeping you

pedit: that's wrong though, town do care how they look but scum care more about surviving and having good content for them is a means to an end aka survival

[Golden Robster]

if everybody acted like mafia then how would it turn out?

how do you think people get townreads if nobody cared how they look?

[Kublai Khan]

Fuck balls.

VOTE: Lalendra

dude what are you doing

I'm not going to fight this in-game. If he's scum, then congrats and he's burned that meta forever. From this point on, nobody will ever be able to argue

If he's town, then post game I'm going to go to the green mods and argue that knowingly cultivating a town-tell at the expense of his games as scum is a form of site-cheating and he needs to be booted.

P.EDIT:

lol, and just that one game Kublai played with me I was harddefending one scum D1.

actually good point can KK respond to this

2 points:

1 - I went and checked. It was a super soft-defend compared to this game. There's about 2 posts where he says the lynch is bad.
2 - "I did a thing once and therefore always do that thing" is piss-poor logic. I mean, if you want to follow that, then let's lynch whoever Creature really doesn't want to lynch.

[JarJarDrinks]

if you're town then you should be able to persuade us instead of

"this is my town game, when I'm mafia I lurk"

like what kind of shit reasoning is this?

What's the motivation for scum!me to call Wheme wagon a mislynch even though it was likely he was gonna be lynched anyway?

If he was likely gonna be lynched anyway then why did you try to derail his wagon?

[Golden Robster]

It's mostly about the content.

Town doesn't care how bad their posts may look.

Only scum actually cares about how good their content looks.

also at the end of the day even if this is true we still need to lynch based on their posts

so even though it may be true that scum care more it doesn't mean we can give free passes out just because a post seems too bad to come from scum

[JarJarDrinks]

Only scum actually cares about how good their content looks.

Except that everyone is telling us that as scum your content sucks.

[Golden Robster]

2 points:

1 - I went and checked. It was a super soft-defend compared to this game. There's about 2 posts where he says the lynch is bad.
2 - "I did a thing once and therefore always do that thing" is piss-poor logic. I mean, if you want to follow that, then let's lynch whoever Creature really doesn't want to lynch.

fine

get back on the creature wagon

[Ircher]

Day 3 VC #21

Dunnstral (0) -

Creature (4) - Ankamius (4239), TehBrawlGuy (4245), Myloninja13 (4252), Golden Robster (4255)

Kublai Khan (0) -

Lalendra (8) (L-3) - PenguinPower (3678), Wavemode (3716), JarJarDrinks (3721), Tchill13 (4215), Vaxkiller (4220), Creature (4284), Ausuka (4286), Kublai Khan (4308)

JarJarDrinks (0) -
Texcat (3) - Scioness Sajj (3756), Krazy (4161), Dunnstral (4162)
TehBrawlGuy (0) -

Myloninja13 (4) - Texcat (3637), Gamma Emerald (4073), Hopkirk (4082), Lalendra (4130)

Not Voting (1) - Skygazer

Lynch Threshold

During day 3, it takes 11 votes to lynch a player.

Deadline

Day 3 ends on July 24, 2018 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2018-07-24 20:00:00).

Moderator Notes

If you have consistent weekend V/LA, you must remind me every weekend, or I will prod you. Alternatively, you can set V/LA tags each weekend.
Ausuka is semi-V/LA from July 22 to August 5.
Skygazer replaces Frozen Angel.
If you notice any mistakes, please point them out. (That includes looking at the voting history.)

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Day 3

Dunnstral: Myloninja13 (3463) --> Texcat (4162)
Golden Robster: Dunnstral (3559) --> TehBrawlGuy (4208) --> Creature (4255)
Pine (0):
Krazy: Dunnstral (3978) --> Texcat (4161)
Creature: Texcat (3472) --> Lalendra (3681) --> Texcat (3744) --> Myloninja13 (4013) --> Texcat (4165) --> Lalendra (4213) --> Kublai Khan (4260) --> Lalendra (4284)
Kublai Khan: Creature (3511) --> Lalendra (4033) --> TehBrawlGuy (4184) --> Creature (4240) --> Lalendra (4308)
Hopkirk: Lalendra (3661) --> Myloninja13 (4082)
Gamma Emerald: Lalendra (3913) --> (Null) (3954) --> Myloninja13 (4073)

Ausuka

: Myloninja13 (3640) --> Lalendra (3677) --> Myloninja13 (4010) --> Lalendra (4286)
Lalendra: TehBrawlGuy (3719) --> Myloninja13 (4130)
Tchill13: Lalendra (3690) --> Myloninja13 (4082) --> Lalendra (4215)
JarJarDrinks: Creature (3616) --> (Null) (3694) --> Lalendra (3695) --> Dunnstral (3704) --> Lalendra (3721)
Ankamius: Lalendra (3801) --> (Null) (4044) --> Creature (4239)
Texcat: Myloninja13 (3637)
TehBrawlGuy: JarJarDrinks (3466) --> Texcat (3790) --> Creature (4245)
Vaxkiller: Kublai Khan (4004) --> Myloninja13 (4214) --> Lalendra (4220)
Wavemode: TehBrawlGuy (3468) --> Lalendra (3716)
PenguinPower: Texcat (3473) --> Myloninja13 (3643) --> Lalendra (3678)
Myloninja13: Dunnstral (3765) --> Creature (4252)
Scioness Sajj: Texcat (3756)

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Day 2

Note: * - Hammer Vote

Dunnstral (4): Myloninja13 (1942) --> JarJarDrinks (2206) --> PenguinPower (3242) --> TehBrawlGuy (3248)
Golden Robster (17): Hopkirk (2078) --> (Null) (2096) --> PenguinPower (2112) --> Scioness Sajj (2152) --> Vaxkiller (2171) --> (Null) (2288) --> Creature (2299) -->

WhemeStar

(2304) --> Wavemode (2367) --> Scioness Sajj (2432) --> TehBrawlGuy (2526) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2642) --> (Null) (2783) --> PenguinPower (2979) -->

WhemeStar

(3099) --> (Null) (3284) -->

WhemeStar

(3286)
Pine (1): Andriod18 (1936)
Creature (3): Myloninja13 (1941) --> PenguinPower (2835) -->

WhemeStar

(3453*)
Kublai Khan (5):

Flavor Leaf

(1944) --> (Null) (2366) --> Vaxkiller (2423) --> PenguinPower (2899) -->

WhemeStar

(3027)

WhemeStar

(4): Vaxkiller (2245) --> JarJarDrinks (2301) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2542) --> PenguinPower (2930)
Hopkirk (5): Andriod18 (2197) --> Kublai Khan (2346) --> (Null) (2781) ==> (Null) (2782) -->

WhemeStar

(3008)
Gamma Emerald (5): Kublai Khan (2488) --> Golden Robster (2839) --> (Null) (2867) --> PenguinPower (2990) -->

WhemeStar

(3318)

Ausuka

(7): PenguinPower (1960) --> Myloninja13 (2434) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2504) --> (Null) (2573) --> Myloninja13 (2574) --> TehBrawlGuy (3023) -->

WhemeStar

(3293)
Lalendra (7): Vaxkiller (2184) --> JarJarDrinks (2334) --> Andriod18 (2503) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2657) --> (Null) (2705) --> PenguinPower (2809) -->

WhemeStar

(3097)
EspeciallyTheLies (1): PenguinPower (1996)
JarJarDrinks (10): Andriod18 (1945) --> EspeciallyTheLies (2041) --> (Null) (2066) --> Andriod18 (2192) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2327) --> (Null) (2612) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2640) --> (Null) (2755) --> Andriod18 (2943) -->

WhemeStar

(3030)
Andriod18 (2): JarJarDrinks (2116) --> Kublai Khan (2533)
Texcat (2): ArcAngel9 (1987) --> Myloninja13 (2552)
ArcAngel9 (1): Texcat (2072)
TehBrawlGuy (7): (Null) (2535) --> Wavemode (2690) -->

WhemeStar

(3062) --> (Null) (3118) -->

WhemeStar

(3165) --> (Null) (3196) -->

WhemeStar

(3233)
Vaxkiller (5):

WhemeStar

(2343) --> Myloninja13 (2472) --> PenguinPower (3012) -->

WhemeStar

(3112) --> PenguinPower (3290)
Wavemode (6): Texcat (2044) --> Andriod18 (2331) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2635) --> (Null) (2800) -->

WhemeStar

(2966) ==>

WhemeStar

(3115)
PenguinPower (7): Myloninja13 (1947) --> Kublai Khan (2572) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2709) --> Myloninja13 (2759) --> Golden Robster (2775) --> (Null) (2894) -->

WhemeStar

(2962)
Myloninja13 (1): PenguinPower (2437)
Scioness Sajj (3): Andriod18 (2904) -->

WhemeStar

(3034) --> PenguinPower (3255)

Flavor Leaf

(5): JarJarDrinks (2205) --> Kublai Khan (2499) --> PenguinPower (2715) --> Golden Robster (2774) -->

WhemeStar

(2958)

Day 1

Note: * = Hammer Vote

Note: ^ = Vote after hammer vote.

Dunnstral (5):

Osuka

(77) --> Texcat (1388) --> Lalendra (1623) -->

Osuka

(1758) -->

Performer

(1782)

Srceenplay

(0): (Null)

Performer

(5):

Osuka

(623) --> TheRampage (909) --> Wavemode (1051) --> Andriod18 (1765) -->

Performer

(1849)*

Joral

(0): (Null)

Almost50

(8): Hopkirk (97) --> Edosurist (226) -->

Osuka

(390) -->

Ausuka

(1205) --> (Null) (1304) --> Vaxkiller (1352) --> (Null) (1380) --> Andriod18 (1460)
Fumuki (0): (Null)
Golden Robster (13):

Almost50

(177) --> Wavemode (183) -->

Osuka

(236) -->

Ausuka (317)

--> JarJarDrinks (319) --> (Null) (546) --> Vaxkiller (602) --> (Null) (1504) --> Wavemode (1588) --> (Null) (1589) --> ArcAngel9 (1770) --> Andriod18 (1784) --> (Null) (1798)
Pine (2):

Osuka

(176) --> Andriod18 (1835)
Creature (6):

Performer

(385) --> Myloninja13 (720) --> TheRampage (813) -->

Performer

(898) --> Andriod18 (1449) -->

Performer

(1846)
Kublai Khan (6):

Osuka

(76) -->

Almost50

(122) --> Scioness Sajj (388) --> JarJarDrinks (536) -->

Osuka

(725) -->

Performer

(957)

WhemeStar

(3): Lalendra (234) --> JarJarDrinks (797) -->

Flavor Leaf

(955)
Hopkirk (9):

Osuka

(90) --> Lalendra (279) -->

Osuka

(696) --> (Null) (993) --> Wavemode (999) -->

Performer

(1273) --> (Null) (1315) -->

Performer

(1458) --> Andriod18 (1679)
Edosurist (2): Texcat (84) -->

Almost50

(222)
Gamma Emerald (3): Vaxkiller (710) --> Wavemode (1107) --> Andriod18 (1711) --> _{(Null) (1889)^}

Ausuka

(9): JarJarDrinks (89) --> Creature (104) --> Myloninja13 (429) --> (Null) (742) --> TheRampage (743) --> Wavemode (998) -->

Performer

(1604) --> Lalendra (1624) --> Andriod18 (1680)
Lalendra (3):

Almost50

(209) --> (Null) (559) -->

Performer

(1229)
EspeciallyTheLies (2):

Almost50

(83) -->

Performer

(515)
Lovebird (1): Edosurist (259)
Davesaz (1): Wavemode (1014)
Frozen Angel (3):

Performer

(1579) --> (Null) (1606) -->

Performer

(1814)
JarJarDrinks (8):

Osuka

(85) -->

Almost50

(114) --> Charles510 (186) --> Edosurist (231) -->

Osuka

(535) -->

Ausuka

(842) --> Wavemode (1112) --> Andriod18 (1410)

Osuka

(10): Wavemode (80) --> JarJarDrinks (124) --> ArcAngel9 (229) --> Pine (332) --> JarJarDrinks (353) -->

Performer

(769) --> TheRampage (771) -->

Performer

(1047) --> Vaxkiller (1359) -->

Performer

(1384)
Texcat (4):

Osuka

(79) --> Wavemode (1080) -->

Osuka

(1703) --> Andriod18 (1777)
Andriod18 (4): Kublai Khan (190) --> Lovebird (290) --> JarJarDrinks (855) -->

Performer

(1796)
ArcAngel9 (4): Texcat (81) --> TheRampage (223) --> Texcat (604) -->

Performer

(1397)
Charles510 (2): JarJarDrinks (87) --> (Null) (310)
Vaxkiller (8): JarJarDrinks (363) --> Scioness Sajj (389) --> Andriod18 (437) --> JarJarDrinks (532) --> Golden Robster (678) --> Wavemode (1078) --> TheRampage (1085) -->

Performer

(1116)
Wavemode (5): Texcat (82) --> Charles510 (131) --> (Null) (838) -->

Osuka

(867) -->

Performer

(1108)
TheRampage (3): Creature (100) --> (Null) (509) -->

Osuka

(681)
PenguinPower (1):

Performer

(1774)
Myloninja13 (4): Edosurist (233) --> JarJarDrinks (326) -->

Performer

(1554) --> Andriod18 (1787)
Scioness Sajj (4):

Ausuka

(406) --> (Null) (1325) -->

Performer

(1552) --> Andriod18 (1760)

Flavor Leaf

(1): Andriod18 (1772)

Pre-Game

Dunnstral (2): Texcat (9) --> Pine (43)

Srceenplay

(1): Andriod18 (62)
Pine (1):

Osuka

(16)
Kublai Khan (1): Pine (34)
Hopkirk (1):

Osuka

(66)
Edosurist (1): Pine (42)

Osuka

(2): Pine (28) --> Wavemode (33)
Texcat (1): Pine (44)
Wavemode (1):

Osuka

(31)

[JarJarDrinks]

Fuck balls.

VOTE: Lalendra

dude what are you doing

I'm not going to fight this in-game. If he's scum, then congrats and he's burned that meta forever. From this point on, nobody will ever be able to argue

If he's town, then post game I'm going to go to the green mods and argue that knowingly cultivating a town-tell at the expense of his games as scum is a form of site-cheating and he needs to be booted.

Anyone not TRing KK needs serious help on how to read people.

[Golden Robster]

Anyone not TRing KK needs serious help on how to read people.

[JarJarDrinks]

I hate the site meta of run people up to L-1, wait for intent, wait for claim, etc...


I'd really like creature and lala to give us real claims right now to help pick the better wagon.

[Ircher]

Please do not accuse other players of cheating. (This goes along with rule #1 of Respect: “Treat others as you would like to be treated.”) If you feel something constitutes cheating or otherwise warrants investigation/action, feel free to pm me.

[Scioness Sajj]

VOTE: creature

[Hopkirk]

VOTE: Lalendra

[Creature]

Ugh, this gonna be a pain

[Hopkirk]

Preferences are Lalendra then Scion.

[Creature]

Assuming this is singleball:
N=Mx4+1

where N = total number of players and M = number of mafia.

2x4+1=9 (7:2)
3x4+1=13 (10:3)
4x4+1=17 (13:4)
5x4+1=21 (16:5)
6x4+1=25 (19:6)

[Creature]

so we likely have a total of 6 scum and with 1 dead, we have 5 left to find.

[Creature]

From my PoV scum are among:
1. Dunnstral
4. Golden Robster
5. Krazy
7. Kublai Khan
10. Gamma Emerald
12. Lalendra
13. Tchill13
14. Skygazer
15. JarJarDrinks
17. Ankamius
18. Texcat
19. TehBrawlGuy
20. Vaxkiller
21. Wavemode
22. PenguinPower
23. Myloninja13
24. Scioness Sajj

[Creature]

Preliminary townreads:
1. Dunnstral

4. Golden Robster

5. Krazy
7. Kublai Khan

10. Gamma Emerald

12. Lalendra

13. Tchill13

14. Skygazer

15. JarJarDrinks
17. Ankamius
18. Texcat
19. TehBrawlGuy
20. Vaxkiller
21. Wavemode

22. PenguinPower

23. Myloninja13
24. Scioness Sajj

[Lalendra]

VOTE: lalendra

Mylo is still scum.

Dafuq

[Lalendra]

Oh right, there's still that PP wagon no one wants to talk about.

I don't think PP is scum based on the fact that he was a counterwagon to now-confscum.

[Creature]

Oh right, there's still that PP wagon no one wants to talk about.

I don't think PP is scum based on the fact that he was a counterwagon to now-confscum.

What about the players on his wagon?

[Creature]

lol when townhunting is as boring as biology class.