In post 4998, RadiantCowbells wrote:Math that's not a site rule and if she had died for you town would have lost this I am almost certain.
The game would have gone far differently had Shoshin died N3.
1. The operational townblock we had set up would've been fully in place and the worst would have almost certainly been added to it via the neighborhood. That by itself is a locktown bloc of CommanderShepard/RealityCheck/NancyDrew39/theworst, leaving only Whemestar, Scioness Sajj, Chickadee, Taly, and randommidget as unknowns. Just that by itself means town guarantees a win just by having one more town locked, which is very doable with Whemestar in a neighborhood with mastina and myself.
2. Shoshin was a slot that was under fire from multiple town. Just having that suspicion and paranoia cleared up would force us to reevaluate our reads
even if I had not already accepted Shoshin as part of the townblock.
3. With our N3 voyeur shot, we would normally be able to confirm HOW Shoshin died, which prevents possible shenanigans regarding that later on. (I say should because... a. I chose the less elegant target for that purpose, b. Whemestar forgot to submit the action, and c. I didn't push Whemestar to remember to submit the action.)
This is a
very good
spot for town to be in and is remarkably close to a solved game state where town can't lose. Now, this is what ended up happening:
1. Commander Shepard died. This destroyed the townblock because Shoshin was the weak link inside it, Nancy and I were otherwise not synced, and the worst could not be added to it. We were effectively back at square one.
2. Shoshin was already under general suspicion and paranoia that was only stopped because of the mechanical 'clear' that CShep had her in. With the plan of having her protect the slot that died having failed, that shield evaporated.
3. The reasoning was very very sketchy, the type of reasoning that scum locked into an unfavoring claim would do. This looked far far far worse later on when she later asked to be spared so she can prove her role. Overall,
not
dying helped derail the town's overall read correction that was underway going into night three. This is a huge reason I went fully off the rails this game, because I could not see a gamestate where Shoshin was not scum anymore.