Mini Normal 2023 - Game Over

[Gamma Emerald]

The fact you're agreeing with my definition feels like you're acknowledged that part of my logic without objecting, therefore I feel it might be an agreement

[Gustavo]

The fact you're agreeing with my definition feels like you're acknowledged that part of my logic without objecting, therefore I feel it might be an agreement

Your definition is nearly identical to the wiki which is what I use for my definition

it's defending another person by attacking their attacker, my definition doesn't assume alignment of the defended

“a player who defends another player by attacking the other player's attacker is very probably scum”

[Gustavo]

I mean if we keep reading.

“The key to identifying this tell is intent - it is possible to confuse Chainsaw Defense with a player who simply finds the attacker scummy and has no intent of defense. In general, you can be reasonably sure that this tell is involved if a) the player supposedly using Chainsaw Defense has not previously been especially critical of the player he is now attacking, and b) the player supposedly using Chainsaw Defense seems to find the player he is supposedly defending at least reasonably pro-town.”

1. Garmr hadn’t been critical of James
2. My interpretation of garmr’s post is that he thinks James was town

Garmr immediately halted some potentially good discussion when he came to James’s defense.

[Dunnstral]

Krazy replaces archaebob

[James Brafin]

K, so I think snarky is part of Gustavo in general. However, I will agree that it looks like he is doing a lot of posturing. Also all of his arguments have seemed really weak. I’m starting to lean scum here. However, I’m still looking hard at popo and Unreal. Thinking Unreal could be a scum buddy. Not sure about popo tho, that’s an awfully gutsy move for him to be driving a scum wagon.

[Gustavo]

K, so I think snarky is part of Gustavo in general. However, I will agree that it looks like he is doing a lot of posturing. Also all of his arguments have seemed really weak. I’m starting to lean scum here. However, I’m still looking hard at popo and Unreal. Thinking Unreal could be a scum buddy. Not sure about popo tho, that’s an awfully gutsy move for him to be driving a scum wagon.

Can you answer my questions please.

[Gustavo]

Not sure about popo tho, that’s an awfully gutsy move for him to be driving a scum wagon.

You realize a scum wagon means you’re scum...

[Gustavo]

I’m not really sure where these posturing accusations are coming from but all I’ll say is they aren’t true. I’m not posturing. I’m being as honest and transparent as I can be. I’m an open book.

[James Brafin]

I suppose it is possible I am assuming things. But I naked voted him and he naked voted me, which I read as an OMGUS vote. I never said it was bad or scummy. In fact, for RVS that’s pretty NAI. What I don’t like is his response to me when I start probing, which is a flat “nope, you wrong. Gonna be snarky about it.” Which I don’t see coming from town, unless that’s playstyle?

1. Why did you just assume it was omgus?
2. Why didn’t you follow up and ask me what my reason was for once you learned it wasn’t omgus?
3. Why did you assume I was snarky? I wasn’t being snarky
4. Why do you keep making assumptions?
5. Ignoring your own opinion on snarky behavior and incorrect assumption on me being snarky, did you go look to see if it fits my playstyle?
5a. If yes, what did you decide? If no, why the hell not?

1. Because timing and naked voting. It’s okay, Gus. There’s nothing wrong with a OMGUS vote in RVS intentional or not.
2. It’s a straight up naked RVS vote. If it’s not OMGUS, it’s likely for poops and giggles.
3. As far as I am aware, no one else reads you that way. Just so you know.
4. Why do you feel the need to ask? Remember what I said about snarky? It’s stuff like this that causes it.
5. Yes and see above.

The problem here is is I could care less if you OMGUSed me. Your reaction though, sucked. It was defensive and flailing and snarky and it looks bad. It doesn’t even look remotely townie. That’s my problem.

[James Brafin]

Not sure about popo tho, that’s an awfully gutsy move for him to be driving a scum wagon.

You realize a scum wagon means you’re scum...

Sorry, not coherent. Meant “wagon as scum.”

[Krazy]

I exist!

What's deadline?

[Gamma Emerald]

8. Day phases last 14 days, night phases last 2 days.

Game just started

[Gustavo]

I’m not really sure where these posturing accusations are coming from but all I’ll say is they aren’t true. I’m not posturing. I’m being as honest and transparent as I can be. I’m an open book.

also what is your definition of posturing cause I don’t even know what that means.

[Krazy]

As a point of philosophy, with 13 player normal do we even lynch d1? I've still read nothing btw.

Thanks Gamma!

Here's your obligatory cat!

[Gustavo]

It’s a straight up naked RVS vote. If it’s not OMGUS, it’s likely for poops and giggles.

Really wish you would have attempted to figure out which.

[Gustavo]

3. As far as I am aware, no one else reads you that way. Just so you know.

You didn’t answer my question.

[Gustavo]

Why do you feel the need to ask?

Understanding motives for why people do things is kind of important

[Gustavo]

Your reaction though, sucked

So I was supposed to not respond to you? Because that was my only other alternative. I’m sorry I don’t pick up on rhetorical questions all the time.

[Gustavo]

Not sure about popo tho, that’s an awfully gutsy move for him to be driving a scum wagon.

You realize a scum wagon means you’re scum...

Sorry, not coherent. Meant “wagon as scum.”

Oh ok.

Follow up? Is it gutsy for pop or scum in general?

[Gustavo]

As a point of philosophy, with 13 player normal do we even lynch d1?

It’s fairly common. Yes we do

[UnrealSeal]

about to make a post before I do I want to know

Gustavo, what is your current read on James?

[Gustavo]

Null

[Gamma Emerald]

As a point of philosophy, with 13 player normal do we even lynch d1? I've still read nothing btw.

It's plus EV for town to lynch today. Do you come from a community where no lynching day 1 is common?

[Gamma Emerald]

It’s a straight up naked RVS vote. If it’s not OMGUS, it’s likely for poops and giggles.

Really wish you would have attempted to figure out which.

3. As far as I am aware, no one else reads you that way. Just so you know.

You didn’t answer my question.

Why do you feel the need to ask?

Understanding motives for why people do things is kind of important

Your reaction though, sucked

So I was supposed to not respond to you? Because that was my only other alternative. I’m sorry I don’t pick up on rhetorical questions all the time.

this is a waste of space, please respond to one post with one post

[Gustavo]

this is a waste of space, please respond to one post with one post

I’m sorry but I can’t guarantee I can accommodate that request. I’ll try