Newbie 1881 - Game Over

[OkaPoka]

@nancy why the unvote if eragon is no longer at l1?

[IcemanCh]

@nancy why the unvote if eragon is no longer at l1?

Because she HAS to control the direction of town. Pull it around by the nose hairs. We're gonna have another month long day.

[Micc]

Votecount 2.04

Eragon (1) -

IcemanCh

OkaPoka (1) -

WhyMafia

Quick (1) -

Eragon

Not Voting (4) -

Quick, Formerfish, OkaPoka, nancy

With 7 players alive it takes 4 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2018-07-31 17:20:00).

[OkaPoka]

@iceman okay but why did you l1?

[Eragon]

and why is having a long day bad?

[IcemanCh]

iceman? why the l1 and naked vote?

Sorry, I know it's taboo to do naked votes. I didn't have time to do a full post and put all my thoughts down.

So..... all my reads are jacked up. This is the point in the game where EVERYONE seems bad to me and I second guess everything. Plus, I'm a little fatigued having 60 pages and not much actual actionable info from it all. You guys are much better and extracting data to use from 60 posts then I am.

Anyways, I switched my vote to eragon because of your post. It makes a lot of sense. I kind of feel that when you look at everything that happened Eragon refused to put his vote on anyone because he was trying (IMO) to see where town was headed. To me the not voting thing was a scum player waiting to see where everything went.

I'm taking my vote off of Oka cause I see less scum there.

[IcemanCh]

Also, I did check to make sure it wasn't a lol hammer and I knew it was L-1. I should have announced it. Sorry.

[IcemanCh]

and why is having a long day bad?

The long day isn't so bad but, we're on page 63 with (what I feel is) very little actual information. Maybe, I'm just a bit frustrated but, I'll get over it.

[IcemanCh]

Don't get me wrong. I'm not advocating or asking for things to go faster.

What I want is for us to work towards a clear direction on getting scum and not being so scattered. I'm also tired of being led around. If you think someone is scum put your vote there and leave it there until you decide otherwise. Pulling your vote because L-1 is just frustrating. There's no intent to hammer. We're all paying attention. This isn't a lylo.

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: nancy

[OkaPoka]

Why do you want others to talk before you?

also note the new deadline, hesitation isn't going to do town any favors.

Because it helps me sort them better.

Am not really planning on making too many posts this day phase, mostly interested to see who does stuff without me and who sits on their ass.

Am not really planning on making too many posts this day phase, mostly interested to see who does stuff without me and who sits on their ass.

thats my case

[IcemanCh]

Here are my horriable reads at the moment.

Oka - Town. Blew my mind too but yea. I'm feeling oka as town right now. I don't know why but, the post about Eragon just made sense to me and things like that tend to make me think town.
Eragon - Scum. It's pretty scummy IMO to not vote until everyone else does. Get in there and get messy. Stop sitting on the sidelines. Scum sits on sidelines.
FF - Scum. I always get suspicious of people defending me. Sorry, I tried not to feel scummy about it but now I do. Plus while I get what you're saying about your play from previous games you have to understand that it's all I have to go on.
Nancy - Scum. Leading town around even subconsciously is pretty scummy. I will say this. Anyone who uses my entire spiel about the IC being suspicious had better drop it. I don't care what read I have on Nancy. If scum takes me to LyLo I'm going to be sheeping her 100%. No questions. Whatever she votes I vote. So don't you dare take me to LyLo.
WhyMafia - Town. This one is harder to explain. Call it gut. I hate calling it gut though cause as a townie I should be able to logically explain where I'm at. I can't though.....
Quick - Town. I want to say scum but I can't. I think Quick's approach is so different from my own that I want to call him scum for it but he's been 100% consistent with it and I have to sit back and say that there isn't actually anything scummy there.

[OkaPoka]

honestly this whole im being quiet rn because <reason> is some shit id do as scum when i dont wanna talk

[IcemanCh]

I feel bad putting FF in the scum bucket. Does that make it right?

Sorry, man.

[OkaPoka]

tho i do it as town sometimes for real reasons

and now ive hit a loop

formerfish and nancy please do something

[IcemanCh]

Why do you want others to talk before you?

also note the new deadline, hesitation isn't going to do town any favors.

Because it helps me sort them better.

Am not really planning on making too many posts this day phase, mostly interested to see who does stuff without me and who sits on their ass.

Am not really planning on making too many posts this day phase, mostly interested to see who does stuff without me and who sits on their ass.

thats my case

I support this but, I'm not moving my vote yet.

[Formerfish]

I feel bad putting FF in the scum bucket. Does that make it right?

Sorry, man.

For these reasons?

FF - Scum. I always get suspicious of people defending me. Sorry, I tried not to feel scummy about it but now I do. Plus while I get what you're saying about your play from previous games you have to understand that it's all I have to go on.

Not even a little bit, but you do you, ill do me. Didnt i defend you last game as well though, and I was right to because you were town getting talked up for some bullshit, just like here?

[Formerfish]

tho i do it as town sometimes for real reasons

and now ive hit a loop

formerfish and nancy please do something

God you are like an annoying little chicken pecking and pecking and pecking.

What do you want me to do?

Trinity flipping town should put you in a different light because she was technically your counter wagon. Her town could = you scum. The push you are making right out of the gate seems forced, like you hatched the plan over night to kill flicker and pin it on eragon.

I hate nancy right now because i cant get a fucking read on her. I hated the way she played the end of day 1 especially in light of how much I loved some of her posts early and mid day.

Eragon is showing some signs of life, but only just today and that doesnt give us much to go off of. The whole vote thing still stuck with me though and his defense to Oka came off as wordy to me. Like if Oka came at me with that noise hed get an lol gif and a yawn from me.

WM- why replace out right now without saying anything in thread? I know shit comes up and this is usually NAI but this one seems more shady than most, I mean why case Oka that way and then bounce in silence?

Iceman- I like the cageyness towards nancy, shows some balls and I dont think scum does that after the day and night we had yesterday. I dont like the woe is me posting about his reads, just do the best you can with what you have and hope for more info or more time.

Quick is ignoring any post from me that he cant twist into me being his personal attacker. In fact im pretty sure only nancy has even spoke up about the way that he has been confbiased towards me the whole game.

[OkaPoka]

talk more, show conviction, push someone, do something. i can't read you because you are playing radically different and i don't know what to make of your plays. im trying to figure out what you are seeing and doing but im drawing blanks.

[OkaPoka]

@formerfish, what do you make of the flicker nk? just say something so nancy will start talking please

[IcemanCh]

I feel bad putting FF in the scum bucket. Does that make it right?

Sorry, man.

For these reasons?

FF - Scum. I always get suspicious of people defending me. Sorry, I tried not to feel scummy about it but now I do. Plus while I get what you're saying about your play from previous games you have to understand that it's all I have to go on.

Not even a little bit, but you do you, ill do me. Didnt i defend you last game as well though, and I was right to because you were town getting talked up for some bullshit, just like here?

Yea you did. And I scum read you in that game to lol

[Formerfish]

talk more, show conviction, push someone, do something. i can't read you because you are playing radically different and i don't know what to make of your plays. im trying to figure out what you are seeing and doing but im drawing blanks.

I dont think that i am not contributing right now, and ive told you before im not your monkey and wont play the game you want me to play. I have shown conviction on a read that I was told wasnt going to get play on day 1, and here I am still pushing that read today. See me as town and figure out a way to work with me on someone. Ask me questions about something I just said.

@formerfish, what do you make of the flicker nk? just say something so nancy will start talking please

I dont like doing nk analysis, theres too much wifom in it. I know that as scum the nk is something i put a lot of thought into because of the implications it can have and what it can do to the plays i have in motion. Look at my recent scum game for a look into why I pick who I do. Flicker is a strange choice because she was a townie on the mislynch, which would lessen the choices of scum on the wagon. This could be a good play for scum when the wagon was all town, or maybe just 1 scum on.

No idea what nancy is doing now.

ninja- and I was town that game too.

[OkaPoka]

@formerfish what are you going to do about your lack of a read on nancy?

[Formerfish]

@formerfish what are you going to do about your lack of a read on nancy?

I cant force her to post. I would need her to post and to interact with me. Do you want me to mimic your play style asking a question and then quoting it every 4th post in a slightly larger font and sometimes changing colors in a more and more urgent fashion until it drives someone crazy?

[OkaPoka]

@iceman, how was formerfish like in your previous game(s) with him?